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super duper pastel

My point is that, ya i could have Kevin at nerd look at her and tell me she is a fader but until it is proven its just a super and thats how i do buisness I sell you what it is nothing more nothing less.
 
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For one I talked to the seller in question and he was told by Greg(According to him) Whom is a friend of his and his neighbor in Janus, FL. That that is what that male is. So he whole heartedly believes it to be so.

You dont like being called uneducated or uninformed but it was exactly for that reason you got screwed by a breeder and say thats why you are posting this. Just because you had a bad dealing with someone else doesnt give you the right to say that this guy is trying to screw someone.

People normally dont like the truth because it hurts. But im not sugar coating anything. I just wish people would check out a situation before assuming(and we all know what that does) That someone is trying to intentionally screw people.
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Tyler...lets just agree to disagree. I totally APOLOGIZE if my comment was offensive to you. However that said, I will not retract this comment since it was only my opinion. That's all. It was what I thought at the time, and it was stated.

If being taken advantage of by a bad breeder makes me uneducated and uninformed then so be it.... as said before I shared my personal experience that occurred a while back just to add to the docket and reinforce it can happen. I learned from that experience and do my research now. I'm not dumb. I was just naive and new to the world of reptiles, and too trusting.

I have no clue who you are, but you seem to be pretty defensive and aggressive in defending the seller. Are you the seller and just choose not to identify yourself? I honestly have nothing against him, and if it is indeed a 'Super Duper', no worries. I'm not buying it, but someone else probably will and more power to them!
 
I say if he can get a grand out of that animal, good for him. I ain't hatin'.

If it were female, and if I weren't already committed to another purchase, I'd be all over that.
 
No Im not the breeder his name is Luis Alonso. I just bought a spinner from the getleman and he was one of the best people I have had the pleasure to deal with. I just dont like the fact that a new breeder of quality (both animals and character) is taking unneccesary shots.

Shadera thanks I agree if if was a female (coincidentally the same thing I said to him on the phone) That animal would have been sold already.
 
I'm glad you know this breeder. That's all I'll say other than I am glad you had a good experience with him and choose to share that.

Again, if this was offensive to you in some way...my apologies. But I am entitled to my opinion about breeders that take advantage of others- and I am NOT saying that this breeder does that.
 
no bodys taking shots, if you read above if you are going to post make sure you can back up genetics thats all if some one buys it for a thousand good for him but go down a couple of adds you can find another one for cheaper from a reputable breeder also. if you can not back up your genetics tehen you are not selling a proven animal correct. That what i am getting at sell it for what it is a super pastel period.
 
By the way I am still waiting for some one to enlighten me on the super dupers genetics. amidst all the bickering my main question never got answered. is it Genetic like the fader or is it just a nice blushed super?
 
I don't know if it's genetic or not (and didn't care when I commented), my opinion was based purely on its good looks and I'm eventually going to be in the market for an amazing super rather than the browned out crap that barely look like more than normal pastels I'm seeing most often. I didn't even read the text of the ad, just got as far as the picture before saying, "yep, I'd buy it". If it were genetic, that'd just be a bonus for me. But, I'm holding out for one of Nerd's super lemon girls.

I think probably someone like Greg Graziani would be the one to ask about it being inheritable since he's spoken of it a few times. :shrug01: Or maybe one of the other folks who have produced and worked with them.
 
Well I must say you all picking on this poor guy might want to call Greg Graziani and tell him the snake is ficticious and see what he says to you about them. I know you all know so much more than he does. <-Sarcasm Dude. What I hate is uneducated, uninformed individuals coming on here and bad mouthing someone for something apparently that you have no clue about. That snake was named by Greg(Graziani) and Markus(Jayne) maybe do some research first.
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Hey Tyler I dont know if any of that was directed at me or not but if it was I dont think there is anything wrong with agreeing with this statement below.

I do not know about everyone else but IMO a super is a super i am not going to pay extra money for a snake that someone adds a extra name in front of when i can get the same looking snake for $600. I have seen supers with a lot more blushing and color for less money, now if it has something going on like the fader gene that is different but until its proven its just another super.
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and as far as the name part goes I do think its a dumb name and I dont care who named it that being Greg or anybody else. People are entitled to there opinion.
 
That girl is HOT!!

Question: for this super duper pastel, do you have to have a certain line or do you have a chance of getting a duper when you breed just two any pastels together(if this was answered above in the middle of the bickering I am sorry I don't really read the disagreement posts just scan them)?

I have 1:2 pastels and I would LOVE to make a super duper pastel!
 
Eugene that is what i am trying to find out. as far as i know Kevin at nerd is the only one to prove out a different gene in the pastel which is his new fader gene my super has a lot more blushing and color than the one for sale so i was trying to figure this whole thing out. feel free to correct me if i am wrong but as far as i know a super is a super weather it is bright or browned out it all depends on who you get it from and they all produce the same morphs when bred to other genetic morphs. I do not want to keep going round and round on this topic just looking for some answers. Thanks
 
Super Dupers

Hello everyone i just wanted to shed light on the super dupers.
Me and greg graziani have been discussing this we dont know if it has anything to do with the fader gene it might.All we know that these super
dupers are very bright in color and very high blushing not like other super pastels from what i seen on the pic that was posted on this thread that is not a super duper.The super dupers when bred with other morphs enhances
them in color and blushing so far the super dupers to my knowledge have only been bred to a lesser and the pastel lessers are extremely light and the blushing is awsome.We really think we have something new for the industry
time will tell what other combos we can put them to.Im posting a pic of the
male that i am going to be breeding next year. I dont think no one has one that looks this good LOL.
 

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I know that if this was brought forth by someone less known in the industry, I would have a hard time believing what MIGHT be there. But for one thing, the 2 guys marketing this (I don't believe) would do so without knowing that there is definitely something special going on here. Also, the pic above my post looks SO MUCH better than ANY super that I've seen yet, I would be willing to pay the extra dollars JUST for the extremely awesome example of this morph!! You definitely tend to get what you pay for. If you're selectively breeding, price cannot be the first concern.

BTW...Nothing that I wrote is directed at ANYONE, other than Greg G and Luis A. I'm just sharing my opinion.
 
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