Info Terald Gunter aka Gunters Reptile Rescue aka

[hhmoore]

I have been debating on following through with this since I saw the initial ad...and decided that it bugged me enough that I wanted to do so.

Luckily, I copied the most recent post before he deleted the ad (after I said not to remove the solicitation...so I may have to undelete it at some point.)

<removes moderator hat, and places it on the desk>
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126952 (again, the solicitation was deleted by the OP once he was questioned, so the link won't work)

reptiles needing rehomed and help with supplies

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We run a reptile rescue out of our home. We do not charge any intake fee but we do charge a minimum charge of $35.00 for state adoption fee due to state requirements . All the adoption fees go on all the reptiles for feed and bedding and etc. We have been rescuing reptiles for 15 years. We are located in Wheaton , MO. but we cover the entire united states . Please note we are a non profit rescue . We run our rescue with a different twist than others. Instead of keeping tons and tons of reptiles waiting for homes what we do is have people fill out adoption applications in advance. We will approve or deny them as they come in. Then as we get a call for a reptile that needs a home, like a ball python for instance, we will call the next approved person for a ball python and so on and so forth. As long as they get along with the reptile and the reptile gets along with you then they get to be adopted. If they do not get along then the next person on the list is moved up, and the one that didn't get along with this reptile get to try again on the next reptile .
We understand that life sometimes throws you a curveball. Due to foreclosure, illness, death in the family, a move, divorce, job loss, etc, you either must give up your reptiles or maybe you've been left with a reptile of someone else’s and you either can't or don't want to keep it. We are a safe nonjudgmental place to come to place that reptile Please do not abandon a reptile ; I will make sure that it goes to a loving, healthy home. Contact me and I can help. Email me at [email protected] or call 417-652-3064 . Note that we do not take applications over the phone. we could really use some help with supplies with the econamy the way it is our funds and supplies are running very low if any one could help it would be very appreciated. thanks for looking and god bless everyone

He was questioned about his "nonprofit" status, about the 'state required' minimum adoption fee, and about his new screenname...just a couple of weeks ago, he was falcon309, and had posted this ad: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=671808

ball pythons for special kids

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hi my name is terald gunter i am looking for some ball pythons normals or kinked it dont what they are they are for some kids with special needs. i work with the kids and they're mom and dad to teach them about the hobby of reptiles that i love so much. here latly the moms and dads of these kids are calling me and asking me to help them get they're kids one. i don't do this to make money if i get any ball pythons i give the to the kids as a gift. if i have to pay for the ball pythons or the shipping i will and ill still give them to the very special kids i work with because i love to see the smile on their faces so i would really apeshate some help of any kind. so thank you for letting me talk to you all in the reptile commuity and god bless you all

Also under the falcon ID, he had posted inquiries to ads for some boas, breedable adult female BPs, and gravid BPs; and had posted several animals for sale or trade - not the kind of things one would expect from a legitimate reptile rescue.

Now, a lot of people take in unwanted reptiles - I don't have any problem with that. What I do have a problem with is people declaring themselves "nonprofit" and seeking donations (which Terry did in the topmost quote). Im not thrilled with people actively soliciting free animals, as a rescue, with the intent of selling them, either (I'm not saying that Terry did that part, at least not yet).


Soooooooo, now that this information is out there, I'm also making an inquiry:
Does anybody know this person? Can anybody speak to what he is actually doing? Is there a $35 minimum adoption fee required by the State of Missouri?

 

[John E Dove]

Incase anyone lives in that area the home addy is list as;
Terry Gunter
215 Mcqueen St
Wheaton, MO 64874

 

[hhmoore]

Just for the record, yes, I have PM'd gunters reptiles rescue to make him aware of this thread.

 

[gunters reptiles rescue]

you know if some one tries to do a good thing in this community you have people trying to put them down and acuse them of being some one else and forther more i dont know any one by the user name of falcon and i deleted my post because i was trying to do some thing nice for the community and i got my ass jump by people on here that dont even know me i do every thing by the laws of missouri and here is my missouri tax id number 20387679

 

[John E Dove]

Please post your 501c info that would make you a not for profit. A tax id# just means you have a the ability to purchase and not be charged tax on the purchase. About any business has that.

 

[Cheryl Marchek AKA JM]

you know if some one tries to do a good thing in this community you have people trying to put them down and acuse them of being some one else and forther more i dont know any one by the user name of falcon and i deleted my post because i was trying to do some thing nice for the community and i got my ass jump by people on here that dont even know me i do every thing by the laws of missouri and here is my missouri tax id number 20387679

You don't know falcon309? Weird~ he's running around using your name and your story........the day you registered is the last day I posted I think...............

hi my name is terald gunter i am looking for some ball pythons normals or kinked it dont what they are they are for some kids with special needs. i work with the kids and they're mom and dad to teach them about the hobby of reptiles that i love so much. here latly the moms and dads of these kids are calling me and asking me to help them get they're kids one. i don't do this to make money if i get any ball pythons i give the to the kids as a gift. if i have to pay for the ball pythons or the shipping i will and ill still give them to the very special kids i work with because i love to see the smile on their faces so i would really apeshate some help of any kind. so thank you for letting me talk to you all in the reptile commuity and god bless you all

 

[gunters reptiles rescue]

my Friend is going to scan all my papers so we can post them online that way people will have to apologize

 

[Cheryl Marchek AKA JM]

oops~ I meant to say the last day HE posted~ and I was mistaken too..........
Terald gunter of gunters reptiles rescue registered on the 17th
Terald gunter of Falcon309 last posted on the 18th.......

But you two Terald gunters don't know each other? But your both helping special kids~ have the same name~ and he stopped posting within a day of your beginning to post.

Weird.........

 

[Shadera]

I remember seeing the original ad, and just chewed my tongue. I've done rescue and rehab from my home, and everything about that ad just screams fraud.

A reputable rescue has nothing to hide. No need to switch screen names, and no need to delete posts. I'm betting those animals probably get no veterinary care whatsoever. It's just in for free, and out with a fee. And of course the people on call list is probably so that no animal has to sit for any length of time, lessening the final amount of cash they get to put in the ol' wallet. I wasn't able to find anything about their "rescue" on the web. How many rescues do you all know of that do no promoting whatsoever? Where do the people on the waiting list come from?

I've never heard of a state requiring a minimum adoption fee and would like to see the government document(s) that support that.

 

[John E Dove]

I really hope he does have a 501c to rescue reptiles, it is always good to have another place to refer people to when they ask for help. But somehow I doubt this will be one of those places.

 

[Bill & Amy]

forther more i dont know any one by the user name of falcon

Well, the mod should be able to check that out. But I find it hard to believe that there are 2 of you with the same name and poor grammar and spelling living in the same place.

 

[hhmoore]

my Friend is going to scan all my papers so we can post them online that way people will have to apologize

You will get a thank you from me...since you were asked about the status, but opted to delete the solicitation vs showing the proof (I believe that one of the requirements of being a 501(c)3 organization is posting that information, or providing it when asked).

i dont know any one by the user name of falcon

Same name, same location, same IP address
While Falcon309 does not list a location in his profile, in at least one of his inquiries, he did ask for a shipping quote and provided a zipcode - 64874 - which (according to USPS.com) is Wheaton, MO
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=676909&postcount=6

<moderator hat back on momentarily>
And, yes, I did say the IPs match. Granted, it IS a dynamic ISP, but all of GRR's posts are from the same address, and it shares a match with only Falcon309 (and Falcon309's standby alter ego, the as yet unused, ace love...if need be, I can show why I believe that falcon & ace are the same; but since ace has never been used it seems rather pointless)
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falcon309 71.30.135.134 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
gunters reptiles rescue 71.30.135.134 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]

 

[DeeSeven]

i do every thing by the laws of missouri and here is my missouri tax id number 20387679

um your a few numbers short there buddy it should be something like 00-0000000.

 

[ms_terese]

Is there a $35 minimum adoption fee required by the State of Missouri?

I posted in the original thread that as Board member of a local Humane Society in Missouri, I have no knowledge of any Missouri requirement of a minimum $35 adoption fee. I asked Terald in that first thread to please point me to that requirement by the State.

 

[hhmoore]

I posted in the original thread that as Board member of a local Humane Society in Missouri, I have no knowledge of any Missouri requirement of a minimum $35 adoption fee. I asked Terald in that first thread to please point me to that requirement by the State.

I remember...just figured I would toss it out there

 

[Dennis Hultman]

forther more i dont know any one by the user name of falcon and i deleted my post because i was trying to do some thing nice for the community and i got my ass jump by people on here that dont even know me i do every thing by the laws of missouri and here is my missouri tax id number 20387679

You are full of crap.

Matter of fact, you are all three user names below. Besides the IP data, the similiar birthdays, similar grammatical errors. All three of your split personalities heard about fauna from "freinds ". Now, I don't know what the heck a "freind" is but the only people to ever use the same IP address on Fauna has many of them.

71.30.135.134 : h134.135.30.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net
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*ace love 71.30.135.134 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
* falcon309 71.30.135.134 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
* gunters reptiles rescue 71.30.135.134 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]

About gunters reptiles rescue

Full Name
terald gunter
Location
missouri
Interests
reptiles
Occupation
reptile rescue
Where did you hear about FaunaClassifieds?
freinds

About falcon309

Full Name
terry gunter
Location
n/a
Where did you hear about FaunaClassifieds?
a freind

ace love
Full Name ace love
Where did you hear about FaunaClassifieds? freinds

I think even my friends would agree not very bright of you. Also, registering on the site using one screen name in the email address of the second screen name was a dead giveaway.

But, let's move on now that we have established you are a liar.

A moderator asked you not to delete that AD and you did it anyway. Your a bad liar, can't follow directions and have many freinds.

I would caution anyone considering trusting this person, IMHO.

Good night.

 

[Rainbowboaman]

Another lying SCUMBAG Exposed. That is about as low as you can go saying the adopted snakes are for "The kids. If the BOI had a top 10 Scumbag list, I would vote him in it. What he should be adopting is a spell check. I love how he spelled friend wrong the same way in all 3 made up profiles.

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hi my name is terald gunter i am looking for some ball pythons normals or kinked it dont what they are they are for some kids with special needs. i work with the kids and they're mom and dad to teach them about the hobby of reptiles that i love so much. here latly the moms and dads of these kids are calling me and asking me to help them get they're kids one. i don't do this to make money if i get any ball pythons i give the to the kids as a gift. if i have to pay for the ball pythons or the shipping i will and ill still give them to the very special kids i work with because i love to see the smile on their faces so i would really apeshate some help of any kind. so thank you for letting me talk to you all in the reptile commuity and god bless you all

 

[Nagini]

apparently this post didnt stop them either. this was just posted on another site: http://www.reptilegeeks.com/listing/view/id_5178/title_reptile-rescue/

 

[Bill & Amy]

apparently this post didnt stop them either. this was just posted on another site: http://www.reptilegeeks.com/listing/view/id_5178/title_reptile-rescue/

 

[Bill & Amy]

my Friend is going to scan all my papers so we can post them online that way people will have to apologize

How long does it take to scan in documents? Let me guess, the scanner is broke right?