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Terry Lilley - Tried selling me my own animal

THIS THREAD

Is a long way from being over, many questions have been posted and many answers STILL remain to be seen!
 
I believe some questions have been asked of Mr. Lilley that he is remaining mysteriously silent about. I certainly would not want to shut down this thread prematurely when he is probably just trying to find the time to post those answers, now would I?
 
Sounds good to me. Everyone sit back and get ready for all those answers your not going to get. You are right, there isn't enough info here for someone doing a search to decide if they want to deal with him. I guess some of you are waiting for him to respond so this can drag on for a few more weeks. Terry Lilley please do all a favor and don't respond to this thread so it can go away. This is a no win situation for you and adding fuel to the burned out pile is not going to change any opinions. If your legit do your thing, if not well you know where bad business people end up..
"My End"
 
Joel,

One thing I have to say is if you don't like nor agree with this thread then by all means go read another thread. There have been valid points brought up in this thread and Mr. Lilly has stuck his foot in his mouth and that needs to be shown to show his true character. If nothing else is said by him then what is posted will be enough to help others out. I totally agree with keeping any thread that has information that should be seen active and in the public eye.
 
GO AWAY THREAD!

Joel,

Your hopes that this thread will die will remain just that...HOPES!

You might not like this thread dragging on, but there plenty of other threads to read.
 
Rob not going to waste the words on you as your comments are obviously to say the least, boring. darin you proudly admit your a hillbilly (why, who the knows) enough said, Sputnik what ever that is your comments were so harsh i don't know what i'm going to do , bobby I give a what you think, and ritchie (aren't you supossed to be on a boat in the Middle East or something) i had nothing more to say to you but of course you found the need to ad your 2 cents to your fellow frat brothers comments i guess you and hillbilly are still upset that you could never find any dirt on me but i'm sure you and the hillbilly will claim you haven't looked (yea right). Like you i will read and type what the i want and if you choose to read it your problem.. Im sure this will go on long after me while you wait for the ghost of Lilley to appear and keep talking to you. I'm glad i was able to devert your minds for a few as you wait for Lilley to reply lol. anyway that's my final reply so you can go on your never ending witch hunt and if you feel the need to address me feel free to waste your time via email ([email protected]) and i will be happy to further waste time responding. As for my breaking your posting rules good as i'm leaving on my own so you asses can continue making each other feel special. Can't wait to see where you go when your gun loving king finds this is about to burn out and leaves you with no place to play as i will bet the hillbillys tent it won't be long (yea i know it will go on lol lol)..
Oh man i disabled my signature better put it on so the signature police dont get me lol lol lol see you asses later..
If you go over i hope you stay there and they bury you in the desert with your toy guns lol man i guess i've snapped but boy it feels good...
Like this site
"The End"
 
CAN'T HANDLE THE HEAT?

Well, if you can't handle the heat, then stay out of the kitchen!

Your reponses, lacking in any credible content and laced with boyish attitude did nothing worth mentioning in my opinion.

I'm sure the people you mentioned will be heart broken to see you go, you added so much to this site!

I don't know what we'll do without you? LOL

Here's a thought, maybe we'll continue to read threads about pressing issues...... and leave all the time wasting to you.
 
Thank you Joel (Ms. Cleo) Holloman. Reading the tarot cards and telling us all what I am going to do here.

No I am not closing this site. But I guess I'm not the man of steel like you are, and I get frustrated and smacked around by events and need to vent every once in a while. Excuse me all to hell.

You try doing something like this and let's see how well you do at it.
 
Joel, you're entitled to your opinion even when stating it puts up a great big neon sign that says you're a first class asshole. Personally I don't understand why you feel the need to defend a lying , smuggler defeding, hell, he's an admitted smuggler himself, guy like lilley. I think it's because of guys like you, insert explitive of choice here, that guys like lilley are still around after all these years.

What exactly is your problem? Did we hit a little close to home with the questions we posed him? Are you a "partner" of his? In the big picture your opinions are not of great value or weight since you have nothing to back them up other than a rather pititful potty mouth. Was that really your best shot at Ritchie? And Darrin? Don't you know that hillbillies live in shacks and mobile homes, not tents, you doofus.

I will not miss you, as you weren't even that entertaining. Pretty dull fair, actually.

As far as wishing death on someone, I guess we can just check that off to you being a total asshole. Proof positive. Wonder what you'd say in person? My guess is you'd hightail it with your little curly tail tucked tight between your legs. Talk is cheap, as lilley well knows and you seem to be pretty aware of it as well. I hope you meet someone just like you in person real soon. You deserve everything you get.

wes pollock
 
wes pollock

Wes, don't take Joel's comments to heart too much.

Joel is obviously up there on a higher level then all of us......... self appointed position that requires him to dictate how and when a thread should cease and if things don't go his way he can always mouth off from the warm fuzzy saftey of his keyboard!

Maybe he had to get off line so his parents could use the computer?
 
I don't know much about Mr. Lilley, but I do live very close. I attend college in the same city where he lives, and I know that he had some bad interaction with my herpetology professor, not sure exactly what, but he gets upset when the name "terry lilley" is mentioned.

Btw, where are you Toby Adrianse? I am in SLO....


Chelsie Romulo
 
[sarcasm]Gee Joel, I would have never pegged you to be an ignorant, hypocritical, self-righteous, pompous, malicious ass. [/sarcasm]

Then again, some of your previous interjections condoning illegal surcharges and whatnot gave a pretty good insight into your thinly woven moral fabric. Your last post in this thread just affirms your lack of integrity.

I can say with a degree of certainty that you won't be missed. To bad, so sad, buh bye.
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:
 
Careful Ken. You may get labeled as one of those gun loving neanderthals......
 
ritchie (aren't you supossed to be on a boat in the Middle East or something) i had nothing more to say to you but of course you found the need to ad your 2 cents to your fellow frat brothers comments
1. I was just saying that there was information I did not find out until after page two (2).
2. You are always complaining how this board is totally cutthroat blah blah blah uncivilized blah blah blah. Well I was totally being civil towrds you.
3. You are just mad because you feel like a cast out...instead of one of the "frat brothers"
4. This thread had nothing to say to you...but you also feel the need to add your 2 cents. (POT KETTLE BLACK>>>>>nevermind over your head)
5. I have friends in the middle east risking their lives so fools like you can continue to have the freedom to make a fool of yourself.

Can't wait to see where you go when your gun loving king finds this is about to burn out and leaves you with no place to play

1. Since the idea of the BOI was just born....EVERYONE has been telling webslave not to do it. It would not last. No one will go to it. hmmmm 16,300 hits a day later...you are still gonna say it will go away?

2. The king is a gun lover. The advisers or the two prince by his side are also gun lovers. Joel it is not our fault you are afraid of guns.

3. I am a moderator for four or five other sites....in fact I just resigned from one of them (plate too ful as well as other reasons) so do not worry...I have other sites to play in. But fauna is my home.

i guess you and hillbilly are still upset that you could never find any dirt on me but i'm sure you and the hillbilly will claim you haven't looked
I am glad you are clean. I did do a check on you. I find your comments to be right on...well some of them. Then again some of them are just you telling everyone else what to do and how great you are and how inconsequential everyone else is.

So Mr jusmebabe and Mr. Jusmebabee you have a good day. I know you will be back. why else would you have signed up to this site with two names if you do not have a use for it.
 
Joel,

I am a hillbilly, because my family has been in the Ozark Mountains for the last 170+ years. I am proud of my heritage, and I refuse to let others tear me down because of their ignorance! I will put my I.Q., college G.P.A. (Undergrad and/or Grad), vocabulary, language proficiency, job performance, herping skills, or just about any other measuring tool you would like to choose up against you and your pathetic little attitude ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!

I have never checked you out. I don't do checks. I just admire those who can do them well. I have helped some people by looking up the white pages online once or twice, but that's hardly checking someone out. In fact, I am such a non-checking person, that in this very thread, I show by my statements that I did not even realize you had more than one screen name. Wow! I really am checking you out thoroughly, Huh?

Also, for you to say that you wish Ritchie were killed and burried in the desert is atrocious! For you do write that when we are about to go to war, where who knows how many of our brave young men and women may well be killed in the desert, is flatly un-American in my opinion. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Finally, let me preface this by saying that I do not make threats to anyone; I try my best to keep my temper under control. I would suggest to you, Sir, that we never meet face to face. That would be bad.

:angry:
 
I usually wouldn't respond to something like this but it has hit too close to home.
Hoping Ritchie dies? Hello? My son as well as many other that I know are in the military. Whether in the military or not, hoping someone dies? What is wrong with you man?
What if anything have you ever protected?
Oh yeah, forgot, Lilley.
 
Just for the record, I was sorely tempted to delete Mr. Holloman's blather, but felt I would let the public record remain of the fool he has painted of himself.

Yeah, I know Joel that not everyone in the herp industry reads this site, but bear in mind that 5 years from now, that might not be true any longer. And your idiotic words will still be here for them to read.
 
Ritchie Luna

Hoping Ritchie dies?

I guess Joel has a lot of hopes, this being one of many as well as hoping this thread would go away after defending a self confessed smuggler.

Joel seems to live in a world of fantasy where "HOPES" are his friends and vague, wondering statements are his back bone!

But in my opinion, that's okay!

This is what the BOI is here for, to weed out the little boys like joel who can only use the computer when his parents are not home. In this case I'd say he weeded himself out!
 
If you go over i hope you stay there and they bury you in the desert with your toy guns lol man i guess i've snapped but boy it feels good...
WTF ?!?!?

How could I miss this?

So I come to say that I think two pages is not enough and all of a sudden I deserve to die?

I come to say that I learned something on page 3 and page 4....all of a sudden I deserve to die.

And where do you want me to die? In the desert in Iraq?
And what am I doing over there ? Providing you with the very freedom to make an ASS out of yourself?

that's really nice. Basically you are saying.
"Ritchie, I hope you die while protecting my ass? Because guns and military men scare me"


Sorry to disappoint you. But there is also a home front to man.
While my friends are over there taking care of business with bullets. I will be over here taking care of business with test tubes. I will be covering the biological side of things. And yes if you get infected with whatever....I will help find a cure...even for your ungrateful butt. Good people are going over there to die.

You know what....no problem.
all I am now going to say is no problem.
I will not spew threats for your immaturity
 
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