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Info TexHiss Jimmy Horton - Poor Animal Condition, Bad Shipping Practices

ElexisOrtiz said:
Those are rat racks Laura.

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I should have read all the replies before replying I see it was said multiple times now, but I do agree with the other person, if I walk out in my dining room right now and snap a picture of my rat racks (yes they're in the dining room we don't use it or the livingroom where the snakes are lol) you will see food on every mesh top that has a rat/s in the tub and some aspen on the floor from them digging around. That room is far too clean and no food on the mesh to have rats in there.
 
I truly wonder how many times he was actually fed. They can live off their yolk sac for quite some time. Possible this guy has eaten even less than claimed.
 
I don't think we'll ever actually know since his story seems to change... :( I'm going to attempt feeding later tonight, after work, crossing my fingers it goes well!

Also, someone said I gave negative karma and that I had issues?... I'm really confused and sorry to whoever said that, but my option is to only give good karma - which is what I, at least thought, was doing when I added 'especially good comment' karma to posts I agreed with. That's the only option I'm given.
 
pythonbreeder said:
Its a rodent room there are no snakes in there wow you people see what you want to see, if the snake was dehydrated its because it was in a box for 24 hours I know I should have put water in the box right
DA. He had a water bowl of water in his tub, I know I should have made him drink, really. Think what you want your minds are all made up.
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And on that sorry negative note yes I think we can all say our minds have been made up for us.
Obviously you seem to think your reputation will ride above this BOI thread but it looks like you have weighed, you have been measured and you absolutely have been found wanting!
Welcome to the New World

Yes terrible plagarism I know!

:D:D
 
tim brophy said:
I truly wonder how many times he was actually fed. They can live off their yolk sac for quite some time. Possible this guy has eaten even less than claimed.
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The ad, which was from 10/1/15, states six feedings for a baby born the first week of May. That averages out to once every three weeks, assuming it took a couple of weeks for the first shed and the seller didn't feed right before shipping.

So, while I don't agree with that light of a feeding schedule for a neonate, I think that the seller was honest in his ad wording at least, and it was up to the buyer to do the math on the feeding schedule.

On the shipping, my understanding of having styrofoam in the box is to help with structural integrity to prevent the contents from being crushed, in addition to maintaining safe interior temperatures.
 
Do keep in mind the ad pictured was posted after I had told him I was unhappy with the condition of the animal. I do admit to skimming the original ad that I did not screen shot, since he immediately deleted it after I called saying I was interested. Lesson learned to read even the tiniest and mundane of details and to screen shot -everything- despite what BOI ratings are.

At least the practices he seems to defend have been brought to light on the BOI, with proof to back, so that others that may see his ad and search his reputation will know that this is how his business is done in 2015, and at least the little fella is gonna get some food in his belly!
 
I do not do boas or pythons.
I like kings,torts,chams,bees and love my green wing.
My dozen or so kings are watered every other day (third day at the extremel latest)and fed their need on the fifth or sixth day.
All others receive daily care.
Would something similar be about right for constrictors?
I'm thinking so.
But hey not really by bag.
Every now and then we all could use a "check" to do a better job with what we do.
The seller offered a refund but I hope he can see this as an opportunity to better himself.
Andy.
 
lillyorchid said:
Poor creature. That is not how you care for baby boas, or any snake for that matter. I'm glad the OP got it out of your care. Sadly you made money on a malnourished and poorly cared for animal from within your care.
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The seller offered all of her money back.
 
hypocamaro said:
Its funny how you guys choose sides based on the situation. I posted about how a guy was underfeeding his bolivian red tail boa and all of you guys stuck up for him.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1856749#post1856749

So is this snake way underfed or "Starved". I know its not thin but it is very very very undersized to be a 2013.
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Hold a grudge, much? I agree the boa in the ad you linked is underfed, but that has nothing to do with this thread, and frankly it's just petty to bring it up.
 
hypocamaro said:
The seller offered all of her money back.
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In return for the boa (which is standard, I'm not arguing that). The buyer didn't want to risk the boa dying from being shipped a second time in such a bad condition. This put them in a tough spot of either risking further harm to the boa or letting the seller profit from the unhealthy snake, and they've chosen the latter option in the boa's best interests.

The argument isn't the sellers return policy at this point, it's the fact that he let the boa's condition get so bad to begin with. It never should have left his hands looking like that.

By the way, I did not read your thread about another underfed boa yet, and my post is not a comparison between the two situations - it's just a response to your post quoted above.
 
Fauna sure is a safe spot to go to buy all of your reptiles with all of these PERFECT people whom NEVER make mistakes!!! (drenched in sarcasm)
 
hypocamaro said:
Its funny how you guys choose sides based on the situation. I posted about how a guy was underfeeding his bolivian red tail boa and all of you guys stuck up for him.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1856749#post1856749

So is this snake way underfed or "Starved". I know its not thin but it is very very very undersized to be a 2013.
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This really has ZERO relevance to this thread whatsoever so please stay on topic
If THAT thread still holds some importance to you then that is where you should be posting dont you think?
 
chkadii said:
In return for the boa (which is standard, I'm not arguing that). The buyer didn't want to risk the boa dying from being shipped a second time in such a bad condition. This put them in a tough spot of either risking further harm to the boa or letting the seller profit from the unhealthy snake, and they've chosen the latter option in the boa's best interests.

The argument isn't the sellers return policy at this point, it's the fact that he let the boa's condition get so bad to begin with. It never should have left his hands looking like that.

By the way, I did not read your thread about another underfed boa yet, and my post is not a comparison between the two situations - it's just a response to your post quoted above.
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The argument isn't the sellers return policy at this point, it's the fact that he let the boa's condition get so bad to begin with. It never should have left his hands looking like that.

I have stated that I agree with this a couple of times but it was shipped out...

AND

The seller said he would do the right thing and give her money back.

You guys are crucifying him over a mistake. Making him to be a scum bag piece of crap. Cmon children.

There was only one perfect being and he no longer walks among us.
 
Black Adder said:
This really has ZERO relevance to this thread whatsoever so please stay on topic
If THAT thread still holds some importance to you then that is where you should be posting dont you think?
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How does it not have relevance. This is an "underfed" snake and so it that one.

"underfed"="underfed"
 
hypocamaro said:
The argument isn't the sellers return policy at this point, it's the fact that he let the boa's condition get so bad to begin with. It never should have left his hands looking like that.

I have stated that I agree with this a couple of times but it was shipped out...

AND

The seller said he would do the right thing and give her money back.
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I think this site is a place where people love critters, particularly reptiles. Seeing one underfed to that extent by a seller who should be keeping his stock healthy and fed appropriately is a shock, and I think a response is warranted. A refund is a good start but it doesn't wipe out the cause.
NOT commenting might send the message that this was merely a lapse in a business deal (many don't see it that way) and allow a seller to proceed with business as usual.
 
hypocamaro said:
Its funny how you guys choose sides based on the situation. I posted about how a guy was underfeeding his bolivian red tail boa and all of you guys stuck up for him.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1856749#post1856749

So is this snake way underfed or "Starved". I know its not thin but it is very very very undersized to be a 2013.
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Quite an over exaggeration. Just because a few people (which are not the same ones in this thread) posted, in that thread, does not make everyone, in this thread, individuals who defended the seller in that thread.

hypocamaro said:
Its the same thing! Petty?
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NOT the same thing. The boa, in that thread, does not look even close to being as deflated, & malnourished, as the baby of this thread

hypocamaro said:
You guys are crucifying him over a mistake. Making him to be a scum bag piece of crap. Cmon children.
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You may agree that the baby Boa, in this thread, is not in optimal condition but, apparently, it was not a simple "mistake" when the breeder/seller, himself, stated that there is nothing wrong with this baby Boa.

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