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Bad Guy The Serpentarium- Lodi, Ca

Brandonadam209 said:
You are all right, he did not lie to me and order the wrong thing. I actually did a lot of research, is why i wanted Captive Bred, but he says I did no research so this makes it true. I seriously sought vet care, but ultimately found GBU Enterprises to help, free of charge as kind individuals. And I did not seek money after the fact. But again, I could be lying here and this whole thing is my fault for caring that the snake lived as apposed to dying without a fight. You all are right, I am horrible and The serpenterium did nothing wrong they are great people and I would go back only in my dreams, so I guess there is hope.
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Well I am glad we were able to help you see the light

Brandonadam209 said:
Also, i think you all are missing the whole TIMELINE. Posting this was not because I still wanted a refund, I was simply stating what had happened that day. And I thought I made myself clear that I moved on and was simply trying to warn others of his wrong doing.

If I was a gold digger that didnt care why would the snake be in care, have a wonderful home, leaving the money behind because principal speaks louder than money in my mind. Not to mention life.???? Yall all are whats wrong with the world
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Oh idk, maybe because it was free?

You went and asked for a refund to help pay the vet bills that didn't exist! You also wanted to keep the snake! What's aren't you getting? Please engage that gray mass between your ears and try to make an attempt to make sense.
 
Brandonadam209 said:
Also, i think you all are missing the whole TIMELINE. Posting this was not because I still wanted a refund, I was simply stating what had happened that day. And I thought I made myself clear that I moved on and was simply trying to warn others of his wrong doing.

If I was a gold digger that didnt care why would the snake be in care, have a wonderful home, leaving the money behind because principal speaks louder than money in my mind. Not to mention life.???? Yall all are whats wrong with the world
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I asked for pictures ten minutes ago. Just now checked what you are doing:


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You are not posting pictures.
The ten minute shopping spree quote about summed it all up. And now, you are trying to do a save when your gold digging attempt fell flat.
I think you are full of it. Come on, change my mind with pictures, but until then, I think you tried to take down, and shake down, this seller who has been accomodating and courteous.
 
I have been on a train and am still on a bus. I have said animal in my possession. Brandon is not lying.
As soon as I can get to a computer I will add to this.
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I appreciate your input Naomi but no one has claimed he was lying about the state of the snake nor has anyone contested that you had the snake.

He did lie about wanting a refund for vet bills that didn't exist.

Out of curiosity are you guys some kind of a veterinary clinic?
 
GBU are not vets, but they know more than most vets do. Naomi and Sam are good people who really know their stuff. I'm not surprised they're helping the OP out, they're that kind of people.
 
KORBIN5895 said:
Thanks Wes. I haven't a clue who anyone in this thread is. I haven't been home in years.
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Then let me give you an update.

GBU, Sam and Naomi, are really good very knowledgeable people. They've got a nice shop in Lodi.

The guy at the Serpentarium sort of wrangled it out from under the previous owner Bill Gillingham, one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet if you ever met him. He's retired now, but was a pioneer in the reptile business, especially FWCs and other boiga, while producing a huge number of colubrids, lizards and various chelonians. I don't know the new owner of the Serpentarium personally, but I DO know he's tried to latch onto Bill's coat tails and claim credit for things he had nothing to do with. That's all well and good, many need to brag and associate with those who not only came before but, to my mind, did it better and the fact that this kid seems to be one of them is not surprising.

The OP seems to have made some mistakes, but so did the Serpentarium.
 
ApexPredatorBoids said:
You made a conscious choice to represent yourself "appropriately", and avoid confusion, by not using a screen name which you just claimed to have forgotten all about? Your reasoning sounds a bit conflicted, to me.

I believe that the site's rules still state that there should only be one account per user.
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That old account hasn't been used since 2007. It's not at all unusual for people who haven't been here in years to come back and not remember that they have a previous account, or else remember that they do, but not able to remember their login info. So my choices are to either block them because of that failing on their part, or else let them rejoin the site and not worry about that old registration. I think I make a reasonable and prudent decision when I am faced with an inactive member who wants to become active again.

Quite honestly, unless their IP addresses match both the old and new accounts, I likely won't know anyway.
 
SPOT ON

Wes ,you are obviously in the know ,regarding the situation with Bill and the new owner .For many years Bill ran one of the nicest shops around .I met Naomi there at Bill's shop several years back .Naomi and Sam are dedicated herpetoculturists who have the animals best inerests in mind,no doubt .They have dealt with many a Gonyo ,that I have imported personally ,as I used to supply Bill(Serpentarium)l ,and GBU .

Their desire for the obscure and different led to them gaining a lot of valuable experience with some of S.E Asia's more rare ,and little known reptiles .I feel assured that this animal will get their very best care ,and hopefully pulls through .As far as the OP ,I think you had raised a valid question about misrepresentation(CB or WC) ,but have yet to prove it .You(OP) would also gain a great deal of credibility if you provided the pictures of the skin malady the snake was suffering from .Props to GBU for stepping in to help the snake .
 
You say you did your research on red tail green rats. Yet you only paid $100 for it. If you had done any research you would have known that was a wild caught as nobody would sell a captive bred for that price. They are way too much work. Captive hatched babies sell for more than that and they are still difficult. You had to know that was wild caught or you did not do any research.
 
GBU Enterprises said:
No he did not lie about wanting a refund but the phone is too unreliable
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We all understand that he asked for a refund but the issue is that the basis of the refund was for vet bills but he claims you are helping the animal for free which negates his reasoning. Even if (and that's a big IF) Serpentarium misled the OP into believing the animal was captive bred and played down the snake's medical condition why is the OP deserving of keeping the snake and getting a refund for "vet bills" when he isn't paying any?
 
He does not want a cent from the Serpentarium now. As soon as he heard Robert's response, he chose to forfeit the refund because he wanted to try to do the best he could for the animal. He made this post to make people aware that he was sold an animal that he special ordered as a captive bred and recieved a wild caught instead. He too is simply appalled by the lack of caring.
People we all started somewhere. We all have made our mistakes. We are all still ignorant.
There is soooo much that I still need to know, want to know.
Hopefully we can truly bring this animal aroound and he will have a pet he can treasure for years.
 
Brandonadam209 said:
Beware of this place, bought a Red Tail Green Rat Snake from :reddevil:Robert who owns the "Museum" which was supposed to be "Captive Bred" Instead he is a Wild Caught Snake from Asia. Which means death is likely in his future in captivity. When I got him from :reddevil:The Serpentarium he was covered in red bumpy scabs, Robert said it will go away no big deal. It ended up being a combo of Blisters, parasites, and a upper respiratory infection. I asked Robert to give me a refund to pay for the snakes Vet care, and he said no.
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He stopped pursuing a refund because Robert would only provide one if the snake was returned which is fairly standard practice. On top of that, how can the OP ask for a refund on vet care when non had been provided at that point? Was he going to ask for a random sum that he thought was appropriate?

I feel terrible for the snake but I don't see where Robert is wrong unless he clearly told the OP the snake was captive bred which seems to be a "he said/she said" situation with the OP saying Robert told him it was captive bred and Robert stating he never said that and apologizing for not being clear enough.
 
All in all, I just hope the little guy makes it. At the end of the day, our main concern should be for the well being of these beautiful animals whether CB or W/C..Good luck with him/her.
 
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