The wild, wild, west!

[ravensgait]

Well we could just call Him or Her "Pat" and cover all the bases.

Gee must be some weird out gassing of Wes's often referenced Masked Man. Really doesn't matter we are all giving Pat what it wants IE attention. Randy

 

[TomO]

... My main objection is the vigilante attitude which has
begun to invade most of the more useful threads here. ... I carefully targeted the one person I consider to be the most damaging to the continued credibility of this site. ....

So, as the masked avenger you will now take on the vigilantes?
And to better the credibility of this site, you will abandon your own credibility? Methinks you will rescue us first from you.

 

[Wilomn]

Ponder this oh geniuses of no small self importance.

Is it within the realm of possibility that one is not only not engaging in rageful posting, not only not given to anger and frustration so easily or quickly as some ASSume, but that one is, heh heh heh, toying with those who seek to manipulate one who is ASSumed to be so shallow, so base, so very ignorant, so caring of the opinions of un-named masses, as the geniouses of no small self importance have stipulated, stated, very well nigh promised, one is?

One would naturally wonder such would one be able to ponder that which exists outside one's own tiny, dark, cold, pitifully boring, self imposed delirium of grandeur and importance, not knowing, completely unaware, having no knowledge of whatsoever, that others were, indeed, thinking such themselves, thinking that such tiny cold pitiful excuses for existance could be actually life-sustaining at all, a marvel rivalling that of the seven wonders of the world itself, though on a much much much smaller scale, were one able to comprehend that one was not the be all and end all of all that is and may ever be.

I wonder.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Sweet Laura writes:
This thread is not about Pez, Wes, JimF, Lucille, or me for that matter. It is about the behavior and unwanted flame wars that seem to arise on this forum a little too often.

Then what better place for the usual suspect to show "the behavior and unwanted flame wars that seem to arise on this forum a little too often" then right here ? In all candor, many of us have disagreed in threads, and sometimes with a little extra English on the ball. Its not the disagreements, but the couple that have to ratchet up the pissing contests when there is one. Laura, are you not going to admit that you at least have an opinion, regarding the "flame wars", of who the regular fire-starter(s) are/is ? Anyone in particular come to mind ? C'mon girl, it ain't a long list ! Any day in the BOI, you don't have to look long or hard. Some dazzle with intellect, some baffle with BS, and some just throw it.

If Rich is choosing to not enforce some order, for whatever reason, then how about just posting when you see someone light the match, with the name calling and other stupidities ?

I think that the drivel will just have to be tolerated though.

 

[Wilomn]

So, as the masked avenger you will now take on the vigilantes?
And to better the credibility of this site, you will abandon your own credibility? Methinks you will rescue us first from you.

I don't know about any masked avenger, but The Masked Rider and his Whitest of White Steeds has been rarely seen of late.

Rumor has it he's off wooing and or wenching in lands not oft seen by mere mortals such as I and you, but likely to return at any time, should the need arise.

So far, there has been scant need of such powerful help as is his to give and I bet he'd be highly amused that someone was so poorly equiped to utilize the English Language that the best they could come up with was masked avenger when he's been The Masked Rider for well over two years.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and crushes are hard to resist once you've seen him in action, but I digress, back to the point.

I mean really, anyone who takes any of this as seriously as some seem to, is just not right.

A game is a game is a game and sometimes there is no winning just playing that is of itself sufficient to keep the game going.

If there's a score, I am unaware of it. Heck, I can't even keep track of who's playing and who's not playing, who's hiding and sniping, which is fine though only cowards play that way so far as I'm concerned, who's pretending one thing and doing another, who's allied with whom and for how long and why, it's all there, but, and again I must say, really, who cares? And if you do, why?

Mental excercisement is why I'm here, and if by excercising my enormous, lol, thinking muscle I can help out one in need or amuse one who needs amusement, or, and this is my favorite part, step on the neck of a true and proven scumbag, then it's fun mental excercisement, but hardly counts anywhere but here, in our world, our home away from home, Faunlandia, home of the dweeb, the dumbass, the upright, and the confused, along with the masses that follow, support, cajole, laugh at, impuigne, harrass etc, etc, etc, all who play here in this green and black land that so well mimics but is so not, the real world.

 

[varnyard]

Shrillomn: Just to set the record straight.
I am not here to ridicule any particular individual.
The person whose identity I have chosen to emulate is, in my opinion, a good guy.

Well that is funny, this is what you first said. And now you say:

=Shrillomn: It has been fun watching Wes unravel since my arrival. Ah well, that's what
meds are for Wes.

To those of you who question my motives in remaining anonymous, sometimes
things can be said and accomplished anonymously far easier than in the
direct spotlight. Rest assured that my main focus is the health and
longevity of this site which I consider an excellent resource to the
community at large. My main objection is the vigilante attitude which has
begun to invade most of the more useful threads here. My choice of an alter
ego was not random. I carefully targeted the one person I consider to be
the most damaging to the continued credibility of this site. This is not
because of any personal animosity. I truly believe that Wes believes he is
doing good with his antics. The problem arose when he began to believe he
could actually walk on the water instead of swimming like the rest of us.

So the first statement was a lie? Correct?

Yes, you are gaining a bunch of respect here, with you now being proven to be a liar.

You can not play both sides of the fence, it tends to be hard on the crotch.

 

[WebSlave]

If Rich is choosing to not enforce some order, for whatever reason,.....

Many of you have been here long enough to see and take part in my efforts to "enforce some order". Maybe even a few of you understand why I decided to drop the baton I was carrying. For those of you who don't, I ask you, what is in this for ME to continue with the headaches I have been putting up with over the years?

To hell with the altruistic "for the good of us all" bs..... What in the world does this site have to offer ME in return for the efforts I would have to continue to put forth? Do you think I enjoy getting threatened with lawsuits? Do you think it makes my day to have people threaten me because I had to fine and suspend them because of their actions? I had people popping blood vessels in their brains because I put a $10 per year price tag on the BOI. After the first year, fully HALF of the original paid memberships had been dropped. That sure showed me what most people thought about MY efforts here.....

Quite honestly, I was away last weekend, and even though I had my laptop with me, I didn't even once log in here. And really felt no desire to do so. I imagine such stretches as that will become more and more common as time goes by....

Really, this is a WHOLE lot easier on me this way.....

 

[Chameleon Company]

Laura,
Had dinner to kick some thoughts around. Blame me, blame whoever. Blame won't fix things. As the old quote goes "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil in America is for good men (and women) to do nothing" ..... Edmund Burke, Irish politician and philosopher in the late 1700's. Everyone who posts with any regularity, and that includes many who have posted in this thread, know the flare-ups when they see them. So do something about it !! Lets use a football analogy. Boys will be boys, and those of us that enjoy the game like it when the ref's let us play a bit. But there are fouls that have to be called. Let people disagree, even if they are adamant about it. But when the name calling starts, to include all the "cutesy" spelling, then jump in ! If for no other purpose than to throw the yellow flag. Throw some negative karma if you will, which is behind the scenes, but make a post, pointing out the foul. I'm not saying to join the "play", but if you see a flame war starting, and lament it, then do something. And I don't mean just saying "stop it boys". Go right to the first entity that threw the insult, or took it to the gutter. Smack them.

The BOI, and other parts of this forum, are great places for disagreement. If it ends up in the gutter, then blame yourself for letting it happen.

 

[christopher66]

This place has a surreal feeling of apocalyptic doom to itself now .

 

[ravensgait]

Doom ??? Naw just the usual...Randy

 

[Laura Fopiano]

Jim,why you feel the need to engage me in this discussion is of no relevance to the topic at hand.

I made what I thought was a good point. I have been accused of not letting others state their opinions that differ from mine, so be it.

I, for one, would like to see a return to a more "moderated" Board of Inquiry.
This site-wide "Hell" forum does not appeal to me, and I feel that it detracts from the dignity and original purpose of this site.
just venting....

Well it proved to be too much work, not enough pay, made me the target of untold numbers of hate emails and PMs, and in the end proved to be detrimental to the BOI in general by not allowing people's TRUE personality show through.

As a last point, there is no argument by most that the tit-for-tats that prolong a thread for dozens if not hundreds of posts serve little function. But the first 20 posts of the thread usually frame things up enough for anyone doing research to get an idea. People need not subscribe, read, or participate once they feel it no longer productive. That's probably the toughest discipline mastered here.

In theory yes, it's the aplication that becomes distorted when some feel the need to have the last word.

. Laura, are you not going to admit that you at least have an opinion, regarding the "flame wars", of who the regular fire-starter(s) are/is ? Anyone in particular come to mind ? C'mon girl, it ain't a long list ! Any day in the BOI, you don't have to look long or hard. Some dazzle with intellect, some baffle with BS, and some just throw it.
If Rich is choosing to not enforce some order, for whatever reason, then how about just posting when you see someone light the match, with the name calling and other stupidities ?
I think that the drivel will just have to be tolerated though.

I don't recall Rich asking me to do so. It's not my job to call out the antagonist's on this forum or any other for that matter. I state my opinion and then try to move on.

Rich has made it very clear that he no longer wants to work that hard and I agree with him.....way too many head aches and baby sitting.

 

[Monte]

It's too bad. This really was a great place to hang, learn and work to clean up the community.

Like I said before - all the worst stereotypes a person can come up about herpers are just getting reinforced by the lack of monitoring.

It was a good deal while it was going Rich - at least you get an "A" for effort.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Laura,
I guess we each will have a differing view of what the "topic at hand is", and then can tell each other that "you aren't talking about the topic at hand". So deferring back to my view of TTAH, I thought it had to do with improving civility here. My solution was for more people to step up and be active in trying to maintain it. Right now, the insults not only go unchecked, but often are applauded. Generically speaking, by doing nothing except expect someone else to do something, Fauna members have got the Fauna that they deserve! Happy Thanksgiving !

 

[Otter_23]

Laura,
Had dinner to kick some thoughts around. Blame me, blame whoever. Blame won't fix things. As the old quote goes "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil in America is for good men (and women) to do nothing" ..... Edmund Burke, Irish politician and philosopher in the late 1700's. Everyone who posts with any regularity, and that includes many who have posted in this thread, know the flare-ups when they see them. So do something about it !! Lets use a football analogy. Boys will be boys, and those of us that enjoy the game like it when the ref's let us play a bit. But there are fouls that have to be called. Let people disagree, even if they are adamant about it. But when the name calling starts, to include all the "cutesy" spelling, then jump in ! If for no other purpose than to throw the yellow flag. Throw some negative karma if you will, which is behind the scenes, but make a post, pointing out the foul. [SIZE=3]I'm not saying to join the "play", but if you see a flame war starting, and lament it, then do something. And I don't mean just saying "stop it boys". Go right to the first entity that threw the insult, or took it to the gutter. Smack them.[/SIZE]

The BOI, and other parts of this forum, are great places for disagreement. If it ends up in the gutter, then blame yourself for letting it happen.

Jim this is exactly why threads end up being drawn out. Who is guilty of starting "smack" is subjective and usually ends up in a pissing match, which would explain why you happen to be involved several more than the average. I think this stance is why I get so irritated as this is more gasoline to the fire, but then again you know that.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Otter

Jim this is exactly why threads end up being drawn out. Who is guilty of starting "smack" is subjective and usually ends up in a pissing match, which would explain why you happen to be involved several more than the average. I think this stance is why I get so irritated as this is more gasoline to the fire, but then again you know that.

Unless management wants to initiate an automatic limit to a thread, then some threads going long will be a fact of life. If some folks want to claim to be unable to tell the difference between "smack" and "disagreement", then such will have to be their ignorance in life. Its not hard to figure out IMO.

 

[kmurphy]

Laura,
I guess we each will have a differing view of what the "topic at hand is", and then can tell each other that "you aren't talking about the topic at hand". So deferring back to my view of TTAH, I thought it had to do with improving civility here. My solution was for more people to step up and be active in trying to maintain it. Right now, the insults not only go unchecked, but often are applauded. Generically speaking, by doing nothing except expect someone else to do something, Fauna members have got the Fauna that they deserve! Happy Thanksgiving !

Jim(the Florida one), I have to disagree with you on this issue. There really is only a handful of the usual suspects that get into the pissing matches. Yes occasionally there's some new blood. The regulars know who the handful are. For others to step in would only bring more on. The real solution is for the participants to grow a thicker skin and realize that most of these pissing matches are started either to bring the thread off topic or simply to aggravate someone. Either way the respondant is just playing into the poster's hands.
I think a better tact is to simply ignore the player's, always post on topic and let them make their own bed.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Ken,

I think a better tact is to simply ignore the player's, always post on topic and let them make their own bed.

I don't know that we really disagree. If folks have a problem with the way things currently are, I am of the opinion that it will not change to their liking unless they are active in compelling it. To do nothing is to let it stay the same, evolve as it will, etc., which would likely still leave those folks wanting of better. So far, the "evolution" has not gone as some who wanted more civility had hoped for, but I too wouldn't mind being able to post in a good debate without getting this:

blah blah blah blah blah idiot blah blah blah blah blah blah dumbASS blah blah blah blah ASSume blah blah blah blah blah embarrASS blah blah blah blah blah Spokane Lizard Lady blah blah blah blah blah blah ASSumption blah blah blah blah blah scumbag blah blah blah blah blah like me.

Couldn't resist ...... Happy Thanksgiving !!

 

[shrap]

I am of the opinion that it will not change to their liking unless they are active in compelling it.

A vision of you, Jim, just popped into my head...... of you standing over the out of control threads flinging chameleon poop on them and repeating "the power of JIM compels you", "the power of JIM compels you", "the power of JIM compels you"......

Sorry Jim, if I did not let at least some of the odd things that pop into my head out I would most likely go mad.... or madder depending on who you talk to.

 

[hhmoore]

roflmao!!!!!

 

[Chameleon Company]

Well Sammy, my understanding is that the job is still open ....... and you seem qualified to fill those shoes. I would present your post as illustrative of the topic at hand though. Happy holidays to you Sammy.