• Responding to email notices you receive.
    **************************************************
    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

  • IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!! About the Google Adsense ads being displayed

    =====================
    Posted 08/15/2025
    =====================


    Yeah, I know. They are a pain in the butt. But they pay the bills to keep my server running. Just a fact of life, I am afraid.

    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

    =====================
    Addendum: 01/10/2026
    =====================


    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Bad Guy Tim Koppenhofer Special K Reptiles

Viper house. If you do not have paperwork on the hets then how can you guarantee them? Wont you be able to say how do I know this is the same snake you sold? Thats getting a little off the current topic but I really think you should rethink your selling practices on het animals. If everything is as he the op says. then he no longer needed to keep the male het ghost. Tim already accepted his mistake. Paul

no i dont need to rethink anything just for the simple fact i keep records of where it was purchased , who was the breeder , and i take photos of every animal i own . i dont just sell hets blindly ..
 
I really think we need to discuss our procedures with hets on another forum, We are hijacking this thread which isn't right. Lets get back to the topic at hand. Paul
 
Read the Post.

I sold the animal after he wouldn't take it back.

Was he going to let you keep the male you didn't want & give you the $275 credit towards the mojave?? An extra $50 and you walk away with both snakes? You sold the het male for $30, so the mojave would have cost you $20....it usually costs me that much on admission to a show.
 
Good morning all!
This is my response to what is being said here.
Yes- it correct that Daniel purchased a het Hypo female from me at show. He handled the snake for about 10 minutes while we came to a price at the end of the show & it was the second ball he purchased at the show - so he wanted a lower price- so it took at least 10 minutes to agree!

He took the ball & as stated returned w/ a Ball that he claimed was a male not a female that he purchased & this was many months after the original purchase! The snake was a het so it appeared as a normal. He comes back w/ a "normal" appearing ball & says he wants his money back - w/ NO way either one of us can say is it the SAME BALL! I did not want to get into a you- said - I-said argument because no one wins! I said if that was the same ball or not I did not want it back, it had been out of MY care for TOO many months! I said keep it & I would adjust the price on another purchase- not a $275 credit! WHY would he get to keep the "she-male" & still get a FULL credit!!
He kept stopping by my table thru the entire show & complaining- so when he said he wanted the Mojave (as he mentioned) - to resolve the problem as quickly as possible - I said the Mojo was $325 - You pay the $50 difference & we are even!! AND I still do not want the "she-male" back!! He said fine but wanted to talk w/ his girlfriend (maybe his wife- I am not sure). So I thought I made him a VERY fair resolution to "our" problem! He came back to the table & said - "No -we decided that is not what we want!"
Daniel has been at several other shows (probably about 3-4) that I have been a vendor at and has never said a thing! He comes to Tinley Park show on Saturday and says he like an Enchi male on my table & asks what I would do for him & without ever mentioning the past. I said I would sell him the Enchi for $150 - which is $125 off the price- that should be more than fair! He said let him think it over & he would get back to me!
He then comes to my table again near the end of the day on Sunday & starts saying he still has a $275 credit for the previous purchase! I said I never stated he had a $275 credit!! He stated that was "Bull sh@#!!" and I owe him! I said he kept the male & back then that adult "she-male" was worth prox $150 & I offered him $125 off the purchase of the male Enchi!! I may not be a math wiz but $150 & $125 - seems to "make you whole" again!! I can not be held responsible for him "giving away" the "she-male" for $30- when an adult het hypo male was worth prox $150 at that time!!
At that point Daniel totally & completely lost his cool- he started yelling that -"I was F@#$ing him in the a$$" - he started to walk away from my table & got about 12-15' away & turned & again yelling- "You are a "MFer & I will kick your a$$ & F@#$ you up" - causing quite a commotion!!
Daniel - I will say thank you for the apology (as stated here in the thread! But I think it is much TOO late for that)!
Daniel, after threatening me w/ bodily harm- I am done! I have made you two offers- let me take that back - after YOU have been at my table & stated WHAT YOU wanted to settle this the first time & then changed your mind and then after over a year - come back & I offered you a VERY fair offer AGAIN- I do not think this can be resolved - as you stated quite clearly in your first post- THIS CAN NOT BE RESOLVED!!

I do not come to this site VERY OFTEN- unless I happen to be told by friends – because VERY simple things can be TOTALLY BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION - that is why I have not come here before this but I felt compelled to state the facts from my side- like Daniel has stated his!!

I AM DONE W/ THIS THREAD

Thanks
Tim Koppenhofer
Special K Reptiles
 
Hey Tim, Thank you for taking the time to come on here and state the facts from your side. Like I said before your are one of the good guys in this business and now that we know that there was a questioning of the male that was brought back to you actually being the snake snake in question. I understand why you did what you did. And this is the reason I give a photo genetic guarantee with all my hets. Paul Wyble
 
He comes back w/ a "normal" appearing ball & says he wants his money back - w/ NO way either one of us can say is it the SAME BALL!

And who's fault is this? Had he brought it back to you the following week wouldn't the problem identifying it as the same animal still have been present since he apparently was not given any documentation (or at least I have not seen where either of you said there was documentation provided) when purchasing this animal? How can you sell hets without any documentation and not expect problems like this to arise? Did you sex the animal when he brought it back? I'm guessing not with you calling it a "she-male".

Also, because you decided not to take the animal back why should he not receive a full credit? He paid for a specific animal that was a specific sex and you chose not to take it back.
 
Hey Tim, Thank you for taking the time to come on here and state the facts from your side. Like I said before your are one of the good guys in this business and now that we know that there was a questioning of the male that was brought back to you actually being the snake snake in question. I understand why you did what you did. And this is the reason I give a photo genetic guarantee with all my hets. Paul Wyble

Just because Tim, came here and gave us his SIDE of the story does not make any of what he said "facts" sounds like Tim needs to document hets or not guarantee them. Man is it ever hard to sell at the shows!
 
Im not saying it right or wrong. I do know that I feel every het animal sold should come complete with a photo genetic guarantee. It not only protects the buyer but also the seller for times like these. If everyone stops buying hets without paperwork then maybe some of the sellers who do not offer it will have no choice but to begin offering a genetic guarantee. Paul
 
There's a couple of issues raised here that deserve their own threads outside of the BOI. Whether sex guarantees should have a time limit and the value (or lack thereof) of paperwork with buying/selling hets.
I have my own opinions on both, but won't go into that here because it's not really on topic of the issue at hand.

What I see here, with this specific deal, is no evidence is offered for either side. That leaves us with determining who to side with based on their account of the situation and our own personal biases about the two issues mentioned above.

The stories seem to correlate, just told from different perspectives. I have no reason to support or defend either party here but this is my take on it.
I figure Tim didn't specifically say "I'll give you $250 credit", he offered the mojave for $50 as a resolution and that was inferred as a $250 credit. The following statement seems to support that belief:

He did tell me $275 credit because he offered a mojave female priced at $325 if I would pay the $50 difference. SO he knew he agreed to give me credit.

In that case it technically was. It was a fair offer IMO, but was declined.

The way I see it the OP has assumed a degree of responsibility for not bothering to check the sex sooner and should have taken this first offer made, sold both snakes, and most likely gotten his money back.

In the end you have to take into consideration that Tim is a reseller. Dealing with a reseller is different that dealing with a breeder who produced the animal you are interested in.
You may or may not get paperwork from a reseller. You also can't expect them to archive a photo of every snake they sell just in case they need to identify it later.
What that means is if you choose to do business with a reseller, then you accept these conditions. If you're not comfortable with those facts, then seek out a breeder to buy from. Let someone's business practices dictate where you take your business, don't demand or expect a reseller to adhere to the same obligations you place on a breeder.

Some try to fault Tim for not providing paperwork, when you could fault the OP for buying a snake without paperwork just as easily.
The way I see it is the OP made the decision to buy from a reseller, and accept the conditions under which that purchase is made, then he neglected to either have the snake sexed at the time of purchase or sex it at all for 3 months. Then he declined an offer that most would consider reasonable from a reseller, but he wanted to buy from the reseller and get the treatment he'd expect form a breeder. Sometimes you just can't have it both ways.

From what's been stated here, and statements are all we have to go on, I don't see Tim as being a bad guy, I just see two parties that had different expectations as to how a problem should be resolved.
My advice to the OP, in the future take your business to a breeder who produced what you are interested in buying. I have nothing at all against the way Tim does business, it's just apparent the OP expects more than he'll get from most resellers.

As for the issues I mentioned at the beginning, I'd like to see a couple of threads started in the general business discussions on both those topics. I may start them myself tonight if no one else does.
 
So all of the sudden everyone knows how to check sex of an animal? What if you dont know how to check sex? Im not saying he didnt but you should be able to trust a breeder to give you what is advertised or make it right if its not.

I agree with you 100% Adam (lets make a deal on that female albino retic ;-D)
I have met Tim before seen him at a few expos he is a hell of salesman.
I agree with with Daniel on this one.
 
I figure Tim didn't specifically say "I'll give you $250 credit", he offered the mojave for $50 as a resolution and that was inferred as a $250 credit. The following statement seems to support that belief: In that case it technically was. It was a fair offer IMO, but was declined.

I would have to agree. From what I understood Tim had offered the $250 credit towards the mojave with the addition of $50, AND he keep the het ghost. I feel that is MORE than fair.
 
There's a couple of issues raised here that deserve their own threads outside of the BOI. Whether sex guarantees should have a time limit and the value (or lack thereof) of paperwork with buying/selling hets.
I have my own opinions on both, but won't go into that here because it's not really on topic of the issue at hand.

What I see here, with this specific deal, is no evidence is offered for either side. That leaves us with determining who to side with based on their account of the situation and our own personal biases about the two issues mentioned above.

The stories seem to correlate, just told from different perspectives. I have no reason to support or defend either party here but this is my take on it.
I figure Tim didn't specifically say "I'll give you $250 credit", he offered the mojave for $50 as a resolution and that was inferred as a $250 credit. The following statement seems to support that belief:



In that case it technically was. It was a fair offer IMO, but was declined.

The way I see it the OP has assumed a degree of responsibility for not bothering to check the sex sooner and should have taken this first offer made, sold both snakes, and most likely gotten his money back.

In the end you have to take into consideration that Tim is a reseller. Dealing with a reseller is different that dealing with a breeder who produced the animal you are interested in.
You may or may not get paperwork from a reseller. You also can't expect them to archive a photo of every snake they sell just in case they need to identify it later.
What that means is if you choose to do business with a reseller, then you accept these conditions. If you're not comfortable with those facts, then seek out a breeder to buy from. Let someone's business practices dictate where you take your business, don't demand or expect a reseller to adhere to the same obligations you place on a breeder.

Some try to fault Tim for not providing paperwork, when you could fault the OP for buying a snake without paperwork just as easily.
The way I see it is the OP made the decision to buy from a reseller, and accept the conditions under which that purchase is made, then he neglected to either have the snake sexed at the time of purchase or sex it at all for 3 months. Then he declined an offer that most would consider reasonable from a reseller, but he wanted to buy from the reseller and get the treatment he'd expect form a breeder. Sometimes you just can't have it both ways.

From what's been stated here, and statements are all we have to go on, I don't see Tim as being a bad guy, I just see two parties that had different expectations as to how a problem should be resolved.
My advice to the OP, in the future take your business to a breeder who produced what you are interested in buying. I have nothing at all against the way Tim does business, it's just apparent the OP expects more than he'll get from most resellers.

As for the issues I mentioned at the beginning, I'd like to see a couple of threads started in the general business discussions on both those topics. I may start them myself tonight if no one else does.

:thumbsup:Very Well Said :iagree:
 
You sold a animal that wasn't what it was supposed to be. YOUR MISTAKE. As far as the he/she why in the world would someone pay $150 for a het male to make poss. hets when you can buy a visual for $300. That's probably why you continue to have the same boring stuff on your table at every show cause you put those rediculous prices on stuff like "het males" then slap a "show special" label on them. Tim you screwed up and it's ok people make mistakes. But that $275 you shoved in your pocket cost you ALOT of money in the long run. Keep small timin' it buddy you'll make your gas money back.

Daniel Allison


BY THE WAY END RESULT OF THIS THREAD: IF TIM SCREWS UP AND SELL"S THE WRONG ANIMAL HE WILL NOT TAKE CARE OF IT>
 
There's a couple of issues raised here that deserve their own threads outside of the BOI. Whether sex guarantees should have a time limit and the value (or lack thereof) of paperwork with buying/selling hets.
I have my own opinions on both, but won't go into that here because it's not really on topic of the issue at hand.

What I see here, with this specific deal, is no evidence is offered for either side. That leaves us with determining who to side with based on their account of the situation and our own personal biases about the two issues mentioned above.

The stories seem to correlate, just told from different perspectives. I have no reason to support or defend either party here but this is my take on it.
I figure Tim didn't specifically say "I'll give you $250 credit", he offered the mojave for $50 as a resolution and that was inferred as a $250 credit. The following statement seems to support that belief:



In that case it technically was. It was a fair offer IMO, but was declined.

The way I see it the OP has assumed a degree of responsibility for not bothering to check the sex sooner and should have taken this first offer made, sold both snakes, and most likely gotten his money back.

In the end you have to take into consideration that Tim is a reseller. Dealing with a reseller is different that dealing with a breeder who produced the animal you are interested in.
You may or may not get paperwork from a reseller. You also can't expect them to archive a photo of every snake they sell just in case they need to identify it later.
What that means is if you choose to do business with a reseller, then you accept these conditions. If you're not comfortable with those facts, then seek out a breeder to buy from. Let someone's business practices dictate where you take your business, don't demand or expect a reseller to adhere to the same obligations you place on a breeder.

Some try to fault Tim for not providing paperwork, when you could fault the OP for buying a snake without paperwork just as easily.
The way I see it is the OP made the decision to buy from a reseller, and accept the conditions under which that purchase is made, then he neglected to either have the snake sexed at the time of purchase or sex it at all for 3 months. Then he declined an offer that most would consider reasonable from a reseller, but he wanted to buy from the reseller and get the treatment he'd expect form a breeder. Sometimes you just can't have it both ways.

From what's been stated here, and statements are all we have to go on, I don't see Tim as being a bad guy, I just see two parties that had different expectations as to how a problem should be resolved.
My advice to the OP, in the future take your business to a breeder who produced what you are interested in buying. I have nothing at all against the way Tim does business, it's just apparent the OP expects more than he'll get from most resellers.

As for the issues I mentioned at the beginning, I'd like to see a couple of threads started in the general business discussions on both those topics. I may start them myself tonight if no one else does.

Outstanding!:iagree:
 
one point you all forget

A male het is worth zip ,zilch , nada. ok $50.. HE (op) lost a year of production. The Mojo was high priced compared to similar animals at the show. Just because he (Tim) made an offer doesn't mean the buyer should be forced to accept it. The buyer was already FORCED to accept a credit instead of a REFUND..
 
I can see how someone could get a little upset (not to that extent) about having an (implied) credit of $275 for the moj (even though it was turned down) and then offered a credit of $125 afterwards. That would make me feel like I was being screwed around with. That said, I would have just taken the deal..lol

On the TOS issue, for me its pretty cut and dry. If you are advertising a male het blah etc. Than as the seller you should be ready to back up that claim 100%. If I buy a car advertised as a V8 it better actually be a V8.. I disagree with the fact that the OP took some responsibility for not checking. Is it smart to do so? ABSOLUTELY... Is it his responsibility to do so? No..
 
I should add, I dont really know anyone here. Ive talked to Tim a handful of times and he seems great. And by all accounts that Ive heard he is great. I dont necessarily blame him for not taking the snake back (Im sure hes seen enough to be skeptical). And the initial *implied credit was fair, technically. Its a tough call really but I think its always best to give the buyer the benefit of the doubt. He might lose a little in the short run but long term a good name is worth taking a loss every now and then.
 
I just get that "used carsalesman" vibe from Tim the few times I've talked to him.....he has the same stuff that tons of other vendors have and hes usually much higher priced.

Pass on by.
 
Back
Top