Bad Guy Tony121204/Anthony Pappas is a scammer

[Snake-Queen]

I also have one other question - based on your posts so far:
You've said here that all of you were on the same wireless; and you've acknowledged that you used to live with Anthony, but not any longer. Who moved out, and when?

I'm still interested in who Jonathan is, and how he fits into this. He felt a need to create an account to observe this thread, made some interesting comments (here, and in private), then disappeared when pressed for proof of identity.

I guess I might as well scratch the one question thing, because more keep popping up. Earlier, you said that the Mike you referred to is Mike Cogar...the Mike Cogar account here said his real name is Sherman, Mike is just a nickname. Are we talking about the same person?

I forgot about that.

 

[Robert Walker]

Anyone up for helping on a question I have? If so please PM. Thanks!

 

[hupababy_83]

Ok I know what it's like to have a corrupted family, but this web is getting very tangled and confused. If I'm reading correctly then your half brother concocted the whole scam, then paid you to take the package and mail it, then you deposited the money in your account. Besides that your only other involvement is that an iPhone went wonky and your brother sends e-mails from your address. I know I'm missing details, but there is a bunch of BS to sort through, and that shat is thick and slippery.

Why not change your password?
Why not try to protect your privacy, name, reputation from an unsavory family members?
I have more questions but I need to sort the BS first. I don't mean to sound rude, or mean, I'm just trying to understand.

 

[Dennis Hultman]

The blood Pythons were sent from a kid named Sam as everyone here knows, I picked them up at a hub in Lancaster pa. A few blocks from a family members house, what I was aware they were a deposit for anthony and my younger brother Mike as a trade for some caging that Sam wanted. Now Scot comes into this thread for the fact anthony was at a Hamburg pa reptile expo show with myself, and a few other people when he approached vendors to trade the bloods there he traded this guy scot f the bloods. Scot f is a reputable breeder at every pa show and was not aware these blood pythons were "stolen or not paid for yet". Scot simply took them as a trade from anthony c Pappas who he thought was a honest guy looking to trade some blood pythons that belonged to him.

Sam was trading his bloods for cages. So here's a question. Where did the Vision cages come from that Anthony was trading?

 

[Robert Walker]

Here are some updates on this thread.

"Kate Ellis" - Layla0511 appeared on this thread on 11/25/14, having registered the account the same day.

"Kate" showed up in what appeared to be a case to:
1. Clear her name
2. Connect missing dots/links in the scamming
3. Provide proof of the scammers ID
4. Correct the wrongs committed specifically on Rick.

Several members asked "Kate" direct questions on this thread. Several communicated with "Kate" via PM. "Kate" was willing to drag on conversations filled with blurry vague answers and strung on promises.

Kate offered and promised to provide IDs of the scammer(s) = Never happened
Kate promised to send Rick $600 by close of Dec 3rd = Never happened

The last series of black and white questions left on the thread have been left unanswered and completely ignored.

What would be the logical conclusion as to why "Kate" never produced any real solid answers and never produced anything that "she" promised?

 

[hupababy_83]

Kate was the scammer incognito, trying to clear his alias name.... or Kate is Kate and is involved with the scam

 

[Snake-Queen]

Kate was the scammer incognito, trying to clear his alias name.... or Kate is Kate and is involved with the scam

There is a real Kate Ellis, but my opinion is that the real woman has nothing to do with any of this. She may just have the misfortune to know the scammer, maybe just in passing.

I'm not even positive that Pappas is his real name.

 

[Robert Walker]

Here is some additional information:

1st name: Anthony Pappas (banned)
2nd name: Mike Cogar (banned)
3rd name: Johnathan Pierce (banned) This is the person who in post #395 claimed we play favorites on the BOI. We don't, but nice try at a stab.
4th name: Kate Ellis

So if "Kate Ellis" is from Matawan, NJ, how is it "she" is using the same IP address as the scammer from Elizabethtown, PA?

I agree with Melissa. In my opinion, Kate Ellis is not involved with this. I suspect, the scammer has her ID but that is about it.

 

[Robert Walker]

Anthony Pappas Alias = Tony121204
Mike "Sherman" Cogar Alias = DnaReptiles0511
Jonathan Pierce Alias = Jonathan Pierce
Kate Ellis Alias = Layla0511

 

[Dravorak]

At this point and with the lack of follow up, I think it is fair to say that;

Kate is at best someone who has enabled this person to scam multiple individuals, lending her name to someone who she knows to play fast and loose with the truth in business dealings. And helping him facilitate those deals.
At worst, she is an active participant and getting money for her help with the scams while attempting to muddy the waters when people started to catch on.

Either way, there are just too many moving pieces with different relationships and names constantly changing. There hasn't been a good faith effort from anyone implicated to clear their name, or help out in getting to the bottom of this.

 

[Snake-Queen]

Although the IP addresses point to PA, phone numbers point to NJ. Very weird and convoluted indeed.

 

[Robert Walker]

phone numbers point to NJ.

Cell phones from NJ, going back and forth from NJ to PA. PA IP address is from a fixed location like a home, not cell phones. We can see the mobile devices travel around.

Easy to scam in PA with NJ cell phones.

 

[Snake-Queen]

Cell phones from NJ, going back and forth from NJ to PA. PA IP address is from a fixed location like a home, not cell phones. We can see the mobile devices travel around.

Easy to scam in PA with NJ cell phones.

Very true. I bet he is originally from NJ & currently lives in PA.

 

[Robert Walker]

Both IDs submitted to this site were from New Jersey:

Sherman C. Cogar
Kate E. Ellis

 

[Fangthane]

It's probably best to ignore where the phone numbers point to. I noticed Dennis H. had mentioned some of their IPs pointed toward Sprint data service, which makes sense if they're using a prepaid service like Virgin Mobile or Boost. Both of whom happen to run on Sprint's network. Being a Virgin Mobile customer, I happen to know that they'll let you change your phone number every 24 hours if you want to; asking nothing more than the zip code of whatever area you intend to use the phone in. They'll then issue you a local phone number that corresponds to whichever zip code you provide them with. I have to suspect that all carriers have a similarly simple process to get an out of state number. The phone numbers also could have conceivably originated from an app like TextFree or Skype, which aren't any more dependent on one's actual location. It'd be fairly pointless to focus on something that ultimately leads nowhere. Most of the really interesting info still points to Elizabethtown.

 

[hupababy_83]

So it's possible this person stole Kate Ellis identity. That makes this very serious. They are looking at prison time, with the identity theft, right? If that is what is happening.

 

[Snake-Queen]

All I was saying is that the offender's original location (home town) is probably in NJ, most likely from the same town as the real Kate.
I agree the offender is in PA, Elizabethtown to be precise.


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[Robert Walker]

Here are some facts to help keep the story straight:

Fact: The scammer is from Elizabethtown, PA., 4 aliases prove this.
Fact: Turtle Package was shipped from Harrisburg, PA.
Fact: Scott Fitzwater had the stolen snakes and is from Elizabethtown, PA.
Fact: At a minimum, a male and female team.
Fact: Scammer had access to Sherman C. Cogar and Kate E. Ellis I.D. Card.
Fact: Money was accepted using Paypal and email of: [B][I][email protected][/I][/B]

New: [B][I][email protected][/I][/B] goes to "Tony Doe" facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007269376496

New: Tony Doe has a FB friend: Crystal Music
https://www.facebook.com/crystaldmusic

New: Crystal Music is the daughter of Mechelle Distaulo AKA Mechelle Music AKA Mechelle Cogar:
https://www.facebook.com/mechelle.distaulo

New: Mechelle Distaulo/Music/Cogar has two other sons, Anthony and Joseph Distaulo:
Anthony "Tony": https://www.facebook.com/distaulo1
Joseph: https://www.facebook.com/joseph.distaulo

New: Prior to a lot of this, Sam sent me a PM with the names Anthony / Joe Distaulo. Sam says an anonymous source told him this information. PM below:

 

[Agoralyx]

Couple more facts worth adding.

There is an established family named Pappas in Burgettstown, PA. Which is roughly four hours from Elizabethtown. http://www.cpappas.com/

On post #219 I uploaded photos showing that the Kate Ellis phone number was registered to Charles Ellis on Yellow Pages. Also posted an obituary which identified Charles Pappas Jr. of Burgettstown as the father of Anthony Pappas/Tony who now lives in Jupiter, FL.

Michael Coger/DnaReptiles0511 identified himself as the surviving husband of Michelle from the obituary in post #220 (removed, but quoted by Robert W. in #221). He also claimed that Anthony was his *step* son (removed, but quoted by Diem B. in #232).

 

[hupababy_83]

Oh snap!