Top Shelf Exotics (Inquiry)

[shrap]

Dan,

Detective Brown was verified as being real a long time ago.

As far as Jenna, yeah many of us tossed some PM's around as soon as that user name started posting last night as to the validity of the true identity of the person posting.

 

[Stings]

why is everyone questioning the snakes? what started that whole thing.

what made me question all this was when i sent him $2000 and got noting in return. kinda throws up a red flag.

 

[Laura Fopiano]

what made me question all this was when i sent him $2000 and got noting in return. kinda throws up a red flag.

What did you buy from Chris? I may have missed it in this very long thread..
Have you filled out your deposition yet??

 

[The BoidSmith]

This thread has been really revealing in more ways that one. Imagine that, how silly to think that people can change in a matter of months. They are back for a while all humble, mild mannered and well behaved and “voilá”, from one day to the next the old self is back, treating women despicably even though they have never met them and they are unsure if they are guilty of a crime or not! Thank you for showing the old pattern of behavior is still there at its worst…Ahh Freud! Where art thou when we need thee?

Regards,

 

[Casey Hulse]

treating women despicably even though they have never met them and they are unsure if they are guilty of a crime or not!

Huh?

 

[critical bill]

This thread has been really revealing in more ways that one. Imagine that, how silly to think that people can change in a matter of months. They are back for a while all humble, mild mannered and well behaved and “voilá”, from one day to the next the old self is back, treating women despicably even though they have never met them and they are unsure if they are guilty of a crime or not! Thank you for showing the old pattern of behavior is still there at its worst…Ahh Freud! Where art thou when we need thee?

Regards,

Really...the nerve of some people. But you know what I find even sillier? Wasting time while watching ever so carefully over the behavior patterns of other folks that really don't matter up to a whole hill of shit to begin with anyway. Just easier to put them on ignore if they aren't the kind of company I would keep in the real world in the first place. Just an idea, it might work for you.

 

[The BoidSmith]

On the other hand, my friend. When we put someone on ignore we fail to learn about their true self, wouldn't we?

 

[The BoidSmith]

But here's a thought, let's not hijack this thread with our personal opinions about each other. Why don't we go back to Chris Johnson's topic?

 

[VanZwedenReptiles]

Throw em both under the damn jail and let the judge sort em out....thats what I'm saying. I'm insulted this bitch is even asking questions around here when everyone is owed answers. You ask for a sandwich and she serves you a glass of water with a shmirk.

You reading me loud and clear Jenna? If someone wants to know if your shmucky boyfriend wore boxers or briefs to bed you provide the goddamn answer. This isn't chump change you and your man stole and spent on bettering your way of life. This was an important investment to some folks, this was vacation money for some folks. You want me to sit here and believe you and Chris didn't piss this money away together? Every shit diaper your kid ever wore while Chris was your man came from money that he stole from good folk everywhere.

Answer some of the questions people have asked before you piss me off. I'm in a good mood right now but that can all change.

Agree Totally
I've noticed Chris selling hets on kingsnake for a while and at way below market price.I didn't realize he has also not given people there Animals.This would be Very Despicable to say the least .How can someone like that sleep at night and feel descent about themselves.It would make me sick to my stomach to buy or have one of his hets or to have given him my hard earned money.To play the waiting game is one thing,but to be down rite ripped off,Theres just no excuse for it sick or not.He should be put behind bars and everything he owns should be sold off to pay these people back there hard earned money ...I wish People like this would pick another hobby

Greg VanZweden
http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/

Forever Trust In What You Are and Nothing Else Matters

 

[Leon]

Chris Johnson told me a few times that Jenna helped him run TSE.
Honestly, I don't want to fight or argue.

I just want to know a few simple things.
Did you (Jenna) ever witness Chris having any large/adult morph ball pythons, just as an Albino, Pastel, Piebald or Clowns?
I've seen Chris post pictures of Albinos he claimed were his and he produced, but I honestly don't know the truth of extent of that. I've never seen pictures of Sub-adult/Adult morphs of Chris'

Also, Jenna ... who helped Chris run TSE?
I know he claimed he was in the hospital quite often, so who ran TSE?
Did Chris ever tell you he was scamming people?
Also did he have shipments coming to him often?

I'd truely like answers.

- Leon Chulyakov (Sorry for not previously writing my name fully.)

 

[critical bill]

Did Chris ever tell you he was scamming people?

Let me suggest something that might answer this question.

Lets say Jenna was well aware of the diverse selection of animals Chris was advertising and selling on his website. And lets say within her last few posts she stated that she was fully aware Chris was an animal broker who did not have the animals he advertised in his possesion or even on his webpage as advertised, and completely in contrary to his claim that the animals being advertised were produced at his facility. Well....that to me suggests theres no way should could have not known. Maybe she didn't realize it, maybe she didn't see the potential of it, maybe she did and is now trying to simply figure a way out of this mess so she isn't held as equally responsible.

She didn't leave out the part about her being a single parent working 40+ hours per week cleaning houses on her hands knees...did she? Maybe for sympathy? Tenderizing the old tough hearts to go easy on her?

No, this isn't really much of a suggestion at all because to think she never viewed his site run from her home or even thought to question if what her boyfriend was doing was wrong is just utterly ridiculous.

But what do I know Leon? Some people might suggest that as long as your making good money its just wise to keep your mouth shut and never question where it comes from.

 

[varnyard]

Lets take it a step farther. What if Chris never bred any of these hets. But claims he bought them from a well known breeder or should I say (Unknown breeder?). Or so I was told.

Jenna/Chris, you care to clarify this?

Or is this yet more proof that Chris is nothing but a scamming liar?

 

[Leon]

Lets take it a step farther. What if Chris never bred any of these hets. But claims he bought them from a well known breeder or should I say (Unknown breeder?). Or so I was told.

Jenna/Chris, you care to clarify this?

Or is this yet more proof that Chris is nothing but a scamming liar?

When I was interested in purchasing Albino hets from Chris Johnson ...
I asked what line the hets were from, he said the hets were from a VPI line.
Unless VPI can confirm they sold him albinos and/or hets, I highly doubt he had hets to begin with period.

 

[Leon]

Let me suggest something that might answer this question.

Lets say Jenna was well aware of the diverse selection of animals Chris was advertising and selling on his website. And lets say within her last few posts she stated that she was fully aware Chris was an animal broker who did not have the animals he advertised in his possesion or even on his webpage as advertised, and completely in contrary to his claim that the animals being advertised were produced at his facility. Well....that to me suggests theres no way should could have not known. Maybe she didn't realize it, maybe she didn't see the potential of it, maybe she did and is now trying to simply figure a way out of this mess so she isn't held as equally responsible.

She didn't leave out the part about her being a single parent working 40+ hours per week cleaning houses on her hands knees...did she? Maybe for sympathy? Tenderizing the old tough hearts to go easy on her?

No, this isn't really much of a suggestion at all because to think she never viewed his site run from her home or even thought to question if what her boyfriend was doing was wrong is just utterly ridiculous.

But what do I know Leon? Some people might suggest that as long as your making good money its just wise to keep your mouth shut and never question where it comes from.

It's just hard for me to swallow the fact that she didn't know what her own boyfriend was doing. The packages were shipping out from her address, not his. Things just don't add up for me.
I honest to god wish we didn't have to deal with this.

I've worked over 40+ hours a week to purchase 1.2 Albino hets from Chris Johnson, in early '05. I'm 18 years old right now, I just turned 17 when I purchased the hets from Chris. I searched on BOI, and couldn't find a single harsh thing about him. Now I'm looking at my beloved snakes which I was planning to breed this year that will produce me nothing but normals. It's just depressing knowing I invested my money, and promised my own mother that I wasn't wasting my money, and there would be good to come out of it. Now I don't even know what to tell her. I don't have the money to purchase real hets, and honestly I've basically lost hope.

I don't even know to say anymore, Good Night everyone.

- Sincerely, Leon Chulyakov

 

[janga2021]

wow Chris was right, you guys are paranoid, and vicious. I'm attaching a copy of my w-2. it should be obvious that i had nothing to do with his business. Ive Ben a member since 2003 and never sold, bought an animal nor made a post. Ive never e-mailed anyone in regards to the business. yea i saw his animals down stairs they were cool,i got to see all kinds of exotic animals. my favorite snakes are a spider snake the yellow ones, a green tree python, and an rosy boa as far as snakes go. i liked the fancy cams two. i don't see what it matters if i saw the animals or not. of course i did.

 

[kmurphy]

Jenna, your w2 wouldn't show anything of interest here. At one time you asked what the deal with the snakes were. Just read the last paragraph of Leon's post. There are many more like him. That's not paranoia.

If you directly answered the questions posed to you it would be very helpful. In my opinion you can forget about morph questions, you either know too little about them to answer the question or simply are stringing everyone along.

How about information on Pat and Glenn.

Current contact information for Chris.

Any other information that you could provide that would actually be helpful with people getting their money back.

You can PM anyone of your choice if you don't want to post the information here.

Kevin

 

[Bill_Leverton]

wow Chris was right, you guys are paranoid, and vicious. I'm attaching a copy of my w-2. it should be obvious that i had nothing to do with his business. Ive Ben a member since 2003 and never sold, bought an animal nor made a post. Ive never e-mailed anyone in regards to the business. yea i saw his animals down stairs they were cool,i got to see all kinds of exotic animals. my favorite snakes are a spider snake the yellow ones, a green tree python, and an rosy boa as far as snakes go. i liked the fancy cams two. i don't see what it matters if i saw the animals or not. of course i did.

Jenna/Chris, you on medication ? Valium or perhaps Prozac,The people here are far from being paranoid, They are out raged. Chris showed up on the scene a nobody, Made a name for himself sort of (think he has a bigger name now) Trashed anybody who got in his way, came across as a "BAD ASS" bullying most of the people here. As for the w-2 I seriously doubt that TSE has filed taxes on his sales so in essence it wouldn't show up on your w-2 either. So with all due respect Please stop trying to play the innocent act,That dog just isn't Hunting No more.I have always seen Chris/Jenna as a very calculating person,always staying 1 step ahead, It also appears to me that even if you are not Chris at least he is still in NY which is cool, I hear Sing-Sing is lovely in the fall.

 

[joepythons]

truth

wow Chris was right, you guys are paranoid, and vicious. I'm attaching a copy of my w-2. it should be obvious that i had nothing to do with his business. Ive Ben a member since 2003 and never sold, bought an animal nor made a post. Ive never e-mailed anyone in regards to the business. yea i saw his animals down stairs they were cool,i got to see all kinds of exotic animals. my favorite snakes are a spider snake the yellow ones, a green tree python, and an rosy boa as far as snakes go. i liked the fancy cams two. i don't see what it matters if i saw the animals or not. of course i did.

You might have not emailed about the business but i KNOW FOR A FACT you have PMed someone trying to get info about Chris.Chris do you think you have anyone fooled? We all know its you under the the name janga2021.Hey i have a user name for you when you get to prison BANGEDBYALL .I say this because of how you look like a girl anyway(from your DL pic).

 

[varnyard]

This is a PM I got from Jenna.

Private Message: questions
08-03-2006, 08:48 AM
janga2021
Registered User


Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: buffalo,ny
Posts: 7
Name : jenna salters

Trader Rating: (0)


Warning Level: 0 questions

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please do not post any of my pms or say i told you this information. no chris did not personaly breed even one single snake. however he does insist that the snakes are het for what he said they are. he got them from a breeder. he claims to have the reciepts for all the snakes sold to prove it. why do the people here think that there snakes are not hets?

Jenna, Chris lied again, he told everyone he produced these hets. Here you say he never even produced one snake. Your posts here are very fishy at best.

 

[nextworld3]

Hey Leon,
Email me your # at [email protected] , I may be able to help you with your Het problem. ( I feel for you and know whats its like to make promises to your parents when your young...)
Talk ot you soon
Jon