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These are pictures of the snake that died. The top was taken previously when it arrived, the latter was taken today after being removed from my refrigerator 12/6/2009.

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These are pictures of the snake that is still alive and receiving therapy taken 12/6/2009.

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This is a copy of the page they sent me containing their return policy.

Again, sorry this took so long as I am having net trouble. I am going to necropsy the dead snake and will include additional photos and micrographs of my findings later. Please let me know if anyone wishes to see more. I would be happy to furnish it!
 
also the snake in the link looks to have some sort of head issue in that pic. that snake doesnt look healthy either.
 
SoLA said:
Alex,

It appears you are suggesting that Jason received two healthy snakes from you, and 51 hours and 45 minutes later sent you a message and photos of two different snakes he obtained somewhere else and is trying to get Touch of Class to pay for them. He then reports one of the two snakes died shortly after. And the snakes were mentioned to both probe male too, so he must be trying to dump off some unhealthy males for the healthy pair you sent. Come on.

Thats a pretty elaborate scheme to be balancing with their 4th year of vet school.

Personally, I think it was a bad idea to buy wild caught tree boas to begin with, but I'm not here to debate that one. What I think would be a really silly way to gamble $500 would be to buy wild caught snakes with the intent to get a refund on them to pay or another sick 2.0 pair and go through the trouble of writing all the ridiculously long content Jason Olech provided (clearly someone very upset). We know thats not the case, and I can't see a reasonable person trying to accuse someone of something so silly. I understand you sticking to your word, but I hope you aren't making such a silly accusation.
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What I'm suggesting is that the snake i sent did not have any visual fungus or scars...Jason said that some Fungus go through a dormant stage. Could that be the situation? It could be. But like i said, I can not offer any refund or fix anything. It is in the hands of Kelvin Soto..it is out of my hands..
 
Just so you or your boss over looks my last post, since you boxed the snakes.

Originally Posted by alexestrada17
Yes which is why i asked him to send a full body photo of the remaining specimen...Jason still has yet to do that...The snakes i sent did not have any fungus or scars. The same snakes that are in the pictures are the ones i sent. I dont know what else to say. I really have not much more to say. Because i have not dealt with the situation. All i did was pack the animals, after that Kelvin Soto the owner took over, hence i do not know what else to say here..

since you say u packed them can you please explain the pictures you're showing us??? its obvious the pics arent the same snake.... but it is obvious that the snake in the link below is the identical snake in his pic as the same in this thread for sale by yall? look at the dark coloration and the markings.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=153393
 
alexestrada17 said:
i have never said i packed the box and gave it to the owner. I said, I packed the box, that pretty much says it all...so yes i "sealed the box". It was picked up by UPS at Touch of Class facility. When I packed the snakes they had no fungus or scars. Once i read the initial email of Jason's Claim, i turned the situation over to Kelvin Soto, the owner of Touch of Class Reptiles, Kelvin has been the one that has been dealing with Jason since then, not me.
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ok Alex, now i'm confused!:ack2:
 
alexestrada17 said:
i just finished reading your full post, yes i kinda wrote that wrong, what i meant by packed the animals meant i sent the animals out, after the initial emails of Jason's Claims were received, Kelvin took over.
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You packed and you shipped. The owner had nothing to do with what you packed and shipped until AFTER the claim came up. He is not being unprofessional, he is probably trying to figure out how the events worked out since you claim that the animal that you shipped isn't the same as the OP received.

Good luck with that.:shrug01:
 
Ladies and gentleman, please excuse me as I have to retire for the night. I have to be at the university barn tomorrow morning for Large Animal Surgery rotations. We have a few patients coming in that require the care of our service. Please post any additional inquiries that you might have and I will be sure to respond to them promptly tomorrow evening at about 8pm eastern when I return from clinics. Also I apologize for the huge format of the pictures I took. Didn't realize how large the files were prior to posting them. Anyways, Thanks for reading.
 
alexestrada17 said:
What I'm suggesting is that the snake i sent did not have any visual fungus or scars...Jason said that some Fungus go through a dormant stage. Could that be the situation? It could be. But like i said, I can not offer any refund or fix anything. It is in the hands of Kelvin Soto..it is out of my hands..
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the link i just posted of what looks to me to be the same snake hes showing that is for sale by yall does look to have a disease or something. it looks very un healthy and it has an issue on its head.
 
Thanks for making that clear Alex. The snakes need to be refunded, and I hope your boss steps up on this one. I've seen you have some cool snakes over there. This is a real shame.
 
Im starting to lose my patience, i feel like its 1 vs. the world.

The snakes i packed and ship out DID NOT HAVE ANY FUNGUS OR SCARS. THE PICTURES I POSTED WERE THE SNAKES I SENT. After the initial claims from Jason, Kelvin Soto the owner dealt with him. I have nothing else to say on here. I will ask Kelvin to come in if he wants. But i can not force him. I have nothing to do with what Kelvin decides to do. As to the sexing, Kelvin sexes the snakes. I did what kelvin told me to do. Once Jason paid for the snakes, he told me to ship out the pair he had set aside...and i did.
 
One last comment, all of the photos with the exception of those I took today were sent to Alex and kelvin. I still have them in my inbox and would be happy to forward them as proof!!!
 
xanaxez said:
Just so you or your boss over looks my last post, since you boxed the snakes.

Originally Posted by alexestrada17
Yes which is why i asked him to send a full body photo of the remaining specimen...Jason still has yet to do that...The snakes i sent did not have any fungus or scars. The same snakes that are in the pictures are the ones i sent. I dont know what else to say. I really have not much more to say. Because i have not dealt with the situation. All i did was pack the animals, after that Kelvin Soto the owner took over, hence i do not know what else to say here..

since you say u packed them can you please explain the pictures you're showing us??? its obvious the pics arent the same snake.... but it is obvious that the snake in the link below is the identical snake in his pic as the same in this thread for sale by yall? look at the dark coloration and the markings.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=153393
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The link isn't working. Screen shots are best.
 
Olexian Pro said:
One last comment, all of the photos with the exception of those I took today were sent to Alex and kelvin. I still have them in my inbox and would be happy to forward them as proof!!!
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Jason,

i have nothing to do with emails sent to you regarding the snakes you received. So you have been sending the photo's to Kelvin not me,
 
SoLA said:
Alex,

It appears you are suggesting that Jason received two healthy snakes from you, and 51 hours and 45 minutes later sent you a message and photos of two different snakes he obtained somewhere else and is trying to get Touch of Class to pay for them. He then reports one of the two snakes died shortly after. And the snakes were mentioned to both probe male too, so he must be trying to dump off some unhealthy males for the healthy pair you sent. Come on.

Thats a pretty elaborate scheme to be balancing with their 4th year of vet school.

Personally, I think it was a bad idea to buy wild caught tree boas to begin with, but I'm not here to debate that one. What I think would be a really silly way to gamble $500 would be to buy wild caught snakes with the intent to get a refund on them to pay or another sick 2.0 pair and go through the trouble of writing all the ridiculously long content Jason Olech provided (clearly someone very upset). We know thats not the case, and I can't see a reasonable person trying to accuse someone of something so silly. I understand you sticking to your word, but I hope you aren't making such a silly accusation.
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Gavin, all of your posts on this site have been on this thread, what is your association to the OP?
 
alexestrada17 said:
Jason,

i have nothing to do with emails sent to you regarding the snakes you received. So you have been sending the photo's to Kelvin not me,
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I could be so far off the mark that it wasn't funny....however, this is what I got from the postings:

1. Boss sexed (missexing is common for these snakes...easy mistake to make)

2. YOU packed, YOU shipped.

3. You came on and inferred that your boss was "unprofessional."

4. Yet, you are the one responsible for what went in the box, not your boss (although he does have to pony up if it's determined that YOU made a "mistake."

Ok y'all can nail me to a cross now. Like I said, I could be wrong.
 
Alex,

I appreciate your post and certainly thank you for your time. I can understand that you may not have handled communications between kelvin and I will be interested in what Kelvin has to say.
 
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