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tremper incubation method

what do you think about the tremper incubation method?

  • I do not agree with it and don't use it

    Votes: 24 42.9%

  • i have no problem with it and use it

    Votes: 8 14.3%

  • i could care less as long as it is represented as such

    Votes: 16 28.6%

  • either way is fine and i dont care if they do or dont disclose this info

    Votes: 8 14.3%
  • Total voters
    56
I as well used the tremper method for the last two years. The results were not even close to what I was looking for as far as TSD is concerned. I had a total of 42 eggs between last two breeding seasons, four geckos turned out to be female. (Staggering I know) pretty upset myself. Although I only hatched one deformed gecko that ran around in circles, this wasn't enough for me to believe that it was actually due to the TSD method rather than a genetics glitch. My interpretation from Trempers site, lead me to believe that he implied to keep two incubators, one at 80-82 degrees and one at 90 degrees. I already knew that such a temperature fluctuation would surely kill or deform the embryos. I had three hovabators hooked up to rheostats. The first one kept temperatures that slightly fluctuated between 81-82 degrees. The second I used in order to acclimate the eggs up to 90 degrees over a four day period, a few times I ran into the circumstance where I had to let a couple eggs incubate at 82 degrees for three weeks rather than the two. The third incubator also slightly fluctuated between 89-90 degrees. Not only did I hatch out 96% males but the overall color of the geckos were not affected at all! I just hatched what I believe to be a patternless stripe albino, that I can almost guarantee it to be male, but is also so dark, that other than eye color you'd never know it to be albino. It too was incubated at 82 for two weeks then brought up to ninety and is currently being held at 90 degrees in it's sweater box. This year I will try holding the eggs all at 82 degrees and see what happens.
 
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I still do not understand why this incubation technique is called "the Tremper Method". It is the "Viets, Crews, and Di Prima Method"!!!
 
Golden Gate Geckos said:
I still do not understand why this incubation technique is called "the Tremper Method". It is the "Viets, Crews, and Di Prima Method"!!!
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LOL sorry Marcia, it's just that most of us started out a bit later and our first time learning of the method, we learned it from the info on his site. It's just easier to relate the topic to the younger gen. leo breeders such as myself. :thumbsup:
 
...we learned it from the info on his site.
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Well, I know I'm an "old-schooler" (LOL!), but sometimes I get a wild hair when RT gets credit for everything, and especially stuff that he doesn't deserve credit for!
 
Ian S. said:
LOL sorry Marcia, it's just that most of us started out a bit later and our first time learning of the method, we learned it from the info on his site. It's just easier to relate the topic to the younger gen. leo breeders such as myself. :thumbsup:
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What does that make me? A neonate?
 
Golden Gate Geckos said:
I get a wild hair when RT gets credit for everything, and especially stuff that he doesn't deserve credit for!
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He He your 100% correct, I myself will call it the "Tinker and toy method" I have to get it right. I'm still really bummed about all the males I have now. Last year I sold off alot of 100% het jungle albinos to a local pet store so it wasn't too bad, but sheesh I want to be able to provide pairs for people so that they can prove out the genetics of my animals without any flack. What I mean by that is, say, just for example, I sell an animal thats 66% het. albino and someones trying to prove it out with normals, well geez that could take a lot of people alot of time. A lot of time, as we've seen, causes alot of aggravation for both the breeder and the customers.
 
We keep our incubators at 82 to 83 degrees in the hopes that they'll be mostly females. Maybe that's why there's no difference in coloration between the males and females. Our Rainwaters don't seem to be affected by cooler temps during incubation or after hatching,
 
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