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Tosha,
Hey girl, dont' worry about all this... It gets funnier every time I look at it. In fact when people call to buy a snake I have posted we end up laughing about all of this. I tell you what, this virus must be so bad because all of the bubbles and wheezing has got my snakes brreding like clock work. Just go to the BP forum on KS and take a look. It is really bad because I do not know how many clutches I am going to produce this year with this big bad Texas virus... LOL

Thanks,
Wyatt
 
Just to keep all of you up to date. I have placed a call into Jen's vet and am awaiting a return phone call. I would like to know who left the message on your phone Jen because I really would hate to accuse the wrong vet of leaving the message that was posted on the internet for everyone to here. So if you do not mind, the message that I listened to did not include the vet leaving his name or whoever it was that called and left a message on your phone. I personally have not ever had a vet call and leave that detailed of a message on an answering machine before without talking to me in person, but again this story gets better by the day. So again please tell us all the name of the person that left the message with you. Or if you could please replay the message from the beginning where it should say Jen this is Dr. ??.

Thanks,
Wyatt
 
Again, shame on you guys...you've turned a very valuable resource into a three ring circus and made it exceedingly difficult for legitimate herpers to utilize.

Yes, sadly that is true. Now they can crucify me all they want to but I don't give a rat's ass anymore
 
Wyatt said:
I personally have not ever had a vet call and leave that detailed of a message on an answering machine before without talking to me in person

I have, though the vet will always leave his name, vet techs or office staff don't always leave their names. Not all vets have time to play phone tag and my vet has left detailed information on my answering machine before.

I still have doubts as to which snake spread this illness, but Mr. Wyatt, you're "my many customers come here and laugh at this thread and my snakes are all breeding more" comment sounds like any number of crackpot scammers that have gotten caught. Your last posts sounded like you copied some from the "High End Herps" thread.

Writing something similar to a scammer doesn't make you a scammer, but really, these types of comments show a lack of professionalism and won't help your reputation in the future no matter HOW this cookie crumbles... :eek:
 
Granted it is possible Jen had someone make that call for her! well if she's a total moron she might.. I don't see her as being a moron and it wouldn't be real hard to verify who called. So Damion once again why work so hard at making yourself look bad?? Man you might want to tighten down those belts around your thighs :shootfoot



Kelli your bad bad bad!, consider yourself crucified ;) if that isn't enough I made you a cross out of Popsicle sticks..
Randy
 
Not to split hairs - but the good doctor did say - "we don't know what we are dealing with" - he didn't even confirm it was in fact a virus. I'm assuming that by the time of the voicemail Jen had told him about the killer virus - so that is the way he was leaning.
 
ToshaMc said:
Yes - it's been previously mentioned in the thread. Jen actually mentioned as much about the big breeders hushing up the killer virus herself several times over.

And although I know that undocumented hearsay is not allowed on the BOI - except if you are Jen Harrison - I have asked around and have received emails in this regard. As my confidences are more important to me than BOI opinion we'll have to leave it as that.
LOL - the contact info was on the invoice Jen posted so it's not exactly like it was privileged information.

When I went poking around in regards to an obliviously sensitive situation - I specifically stated that the information would be used in confidence - I stand by my word - which is why people talk to me and will continue to do so - a very valuable commodity that I will not jeopardize to satisfy your need to persecute me - I acknowledged the hearsay before even mentioning that people know about this and aren't talking - who knew about it has no relevance to finding a cause, cure or treatment for the virus so I have no problem not blabbing about it.

So be that as it may - no hearsay involved - obviously Kelli knew about it - does the BOI have a bigger good gal than Kelli - will she be boycotted?

If you were told this information in confidence then why oh why are you coming forward with something you cant back up? Ill gladly put Jen on the spot for naming such things as well as all the others... Wheres your proof eh?

Im betting noone actually has such proof. If they do... hows about taking the high road and posting it. Alerting the rest of the reptile community ABOUT something like this?

If you KNOW that this is fact, then why are you keeping it hushed up as well? cause thats what it comes back down to... Are reputations just so important that you cant come forward? or is it all just hearsay and noone actually knows what the heck theyre ranting and raving about? if thats the case. Keep your traps shut if you dont know 100% fact.

Gotta love how quick a rumor might fly...

Are people so easily swayed by words that they cannot make a decision based solely on the facts? Actions certainly speak louder than words.
 
As I said what I have been told was in confidence - I stated upfront that it was purely hearsay on the BOI you can discount if you want - I'm not going to betray confidences to appease a keyboard lynch mob. What information I have been give is: "yeah - this has happened and this is who you should talk to" or "so and so said this" all hearsay and not acceptable in form on the BOI remember. Also - as you can see it holds no relevance to anyone but me and my fact finding mission on the virus. When and if I get some data on the virus - I will gladly post it - who pointed me where we need to look is my business.

As originally stated - please feel free discount or deny that I've got confirmation on what the others have posted - what makes you think that I would care? :eek:
 
Tosha:
Actually, that is a good post.
UNTIL you can confirm your findings, it IS'NT anyone's beeswax. LOL!
And I'm relatively sure if you don't get the skinny, you'll post that also.

Randal Berry
 
ToshaMc said:
But to me this isn’t about them – it’s about the virus and figuring out what can be done to prevent or treat it. This takes priority over the other stuff.

and then this

who knew about it has no relevance to finding a cause, cure or treatment for the virus so I have no problem not blabbing about it.

and as well as

BTW - not to run it into the ground but not only did Dave Barker and another Big Name know about the virus as well as several other breeders big and small - but they've kept it hushed.

Show of hands -- How many are going to Boycott them as well?

Stating untruths without backing them up is complete and utter BS. Making excuses for such accusations because "they told me not to tell, so now im not going to, even though i gave you THIS bit of information, im going to withhold the rest which could be highly valuable information because i actually shouldnt have said a word cause it might not be true, and now i have made a big ole mistake and cant back up my own words with fact"

Didnt you say these quotes? ( save for the one ive made because im just feeling in that mood and this BS makes me angry) earlier in this thread?
You either have solid proof of breeders having/knowing of others who have this virus and keeping quiet about it, which as you feel so strongly about ridding collections of this virus.. to make a statement such as the last quote there, (which i feel should be brought to everyones attention as its a DETRIMENT to peoples collections and these animals lives ) OR! you do not and the lot of you are just uttering a bunch of BS " facts " back and forth with no just cause.

You "claim" to have such information. You believe it( this goes for all who "think" they know, what makes you believe it? Im not part of some stupid keyboard lynch mob, but im looking for FACTS on these accusations.
Throwing down the gauntlet so to speak.


What proof is in these emails that is good enough to bring people like the BARKERS to this level of shady BS? That not only you, but several others now know about and seemingly believe it enough to tell others about it... but yet... no one is coming forward with the proof? Obviously it must be some good information to sway so many who feel so strongly that the insatiable need to tell others such gossip must be met... or... maybe there is just the insatiable need to spread untrue gossip and that is all it truly is. in which case, why would you even attempt to make the sort of statement about the barkers, that you did? unless you know otherwise.

If you are just believing it because you are easily swayed by your friends words, do not post even the INKLING of a thought that you KNOW when you do NOT. That is my point.

if you have information that you know to be TRUE then you are just as wrong for not posting it. otherwise you should never have said one dang word and neither should anyone.
 
In case I confused anyone with my last post, it was to illustrate how far off topic this thread has gone. :yesnod:

My head is spinning trying to follow this thing. :angry:
 
LOL - as I said the information I have is hearsay - I have no facts on the virus yet - I've received only confirmation as to what the others have stated on this thread - I did not drag Dave Barker into this - I'm not throwing out names that aren't already thrown out there. Unlike some people I will wait until there are facts to post before posting them or making assumptions. I am not hiding anything of any value to the community. How is that so hard to follow? Don't you have better things to do that to waste bandwidth on a nonsense argument? I do.
 
Yeah the newbie Tosha is here pretending she is a know it all just like over on kingsnake :throwup02

I see now this week she's an expert on virus transmittion. :bang:

I can't wait until you go climb back under your rock......... :wavey:

Corey Woods
 
JenHarrison said:
I have never bought a snake from anyone in Wisconsin either -- only my very first ball python almost 4 years ago.

What about the several snakes you bought from Andre who lives in Oshkosh Wisconsin?
 
I know this has nothing to do with the topic at hand but since she stated never buying from anyone in Wisconsin when she clearly did I think it is valid.

JenHarrison said:
I purchased a large incubator and 5 female ball pythons from Andre today, and I'm very pleased. The incubator is very well made and includes a plexiglass window in the front as well as a built-in fan. It will be perfect for my needs this fall. The female ball pythons range from 800g to 1300g and all appear outwardly very healthy with no mites, ticks, scale problems, or RI's, and they have crystal clear eyes. He and his dad were nice enough to drive everything 2 hours down to me here by Madison due to me having had surgery 2 days ago and not being up for the drive myself. I would definitely do business with Andre again and recommend him (and his parents) highly!
 
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