First of all, Laura Bolt and the rest of you, what happened to Deborah in Homer, Ak was an unfair result of something that she did not do, but was unfortunate in that she was there and was included.
Secondly, if I were in charge of this site, I think I'd have you all banned for your behavior, to retain some sense of credibility on this site.
This is how this thread should have gone, if this site and the "board" is what you claim it to be and you folks had a little decency:
Complainent: I'm not happy, this is what happened, here are the e-mails, you decide.
Buyers/friends: I've always had good experiences with him, I'd recommend him, do you have any documentation we could condider?
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Complainant: "> Hi Ty, thank you for being nice about it, I didn't think you were before, but I know I do things differently than other people sometimes, it doesn't necessarily mean I'm right. Honestly, sometimes I think I'm an idiot, but if I come across a sick animal, I get attached to it right away, I feel like it needs me. Last night I couldn't stop thinking about the possibility that he might be euthanized for something I can fix. (I think) I jumped on you from the get-go. I was very upset because I know mouth rot is painful and he showed no interest in food after all his time in the box. I was just shocked to see the condition of his mouth. But things happen, that's the sad part of dealing with animals. I had a lot of success removing the yellow globs in his mouth and that made me really happy. It's the first time I've ever had to pry a tortoises mouth open and I'm very relieved that it went so well. I was able to get every bit of it that was visible and no bleeding, I'm giving him Jumpstart with electrolyte in it and I think he'll get through this. It means a lot to me that you do care, I can see that you are a good person and I misjudged you. I like to know that people who are dealing with animals are caring people. Thank you. Don't worry about making it right, I want to keep him and I'm satisfied with you keeping the $90. If for some reason he doesn't make it, it will be my own failing, because I've decided to treat him. If you're worried about whether or not he really has mouth rot, because of your other animals, maybe you'd consider spending what you would have spent on shipping towards a culture at the vet. I'm hoping I won't have to take him, they're so expensive in Homer, AK. But I'd definitely do it if having the test done is necessary to you and I'd pay the balance. (above and beyond the shipping amount). But please don't ask me to send him back, I can't do that. He's such a good little guy, he lets me handle him without fighting at all, or getting stressed, for a wild caught animal, it's kind of strange.
> I do believe you now when you say you'd care for him, just so you know."
Buyers/Friends: I'm happy that this was resolved and Ty'd reputation is as good as ever.
The end.
I can tell you that Deb did not have a good experience with this tortoise, having to force its mouth open innumerable times to treat it and feeling terrible about that. She's commented several times that she feels terrible that now it's afraid to be picked up.
All of you have a wonderful day.