ClarkT
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Yeah, that's what I thought...just a bummer. I think a call to animal control tomorrow..
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Bad Guy United Morphs - Nick Runde
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Show Me
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That's exactly what I was thinking! Looks like paint.
laterob
Not THAT Bad of a guy...
I am shuddering at the possibility of someone killing a snake to get away with a scam. I really hope that's not what happened here...
LauraB
CLOSED ACCOUNT
Frankly, my blood is 
boiling looking at that poor snake. The thought that someone would actually kill that snake to perpetuate a lie and theft is horrendous!
The box is definitely NOT "smashed like crazy" and I agree with Ed. That blood on the bag is too red and there is not a trace of blood anywhere in the box.
In doing more digging I found this. Yeah, it's old (from 2012), is further proof that this Dakota Runde-Leto person is the one into reptiles. Nick Leto's FB doesn't reflect any indication of interest in herps of any kind.
boiling looking at that poor snake. The thought that someone would actually kill that snake to perpetuate a lie and theft is horrendous! The box is definitely NOT "smashed like crazy" and I agree with Ed. That blood on the bag is too red and there is not a trace of blood anywhere in the box.
In doing more digging I found this. Yeah, it's old (from 2012), is further proof that this Dakota Runde-Leto person is the one into reptiles. Nick Leto's FB doesn't reflect any indication of interest in herps of any kind.
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I have seen this "person's" photos before. I am just not sure where. I am not into FB, so it could not have been there. Might have even been on the BOI, but I do not remember.
Would a "person" kill a snake to perpetuate a lie? "People" kill people to perpetuate lies, too, so yes.
My spider sense is tingling when I see those photos. Things feel off.
Would a "person" kill a snake to perpetuate a lie? "People" kill people to perpetuate lies, too, so yes.
My spider sense is tingling when I see those photos. Things feel off.
chazzz
New member
The photo of the supposed dead snake is also suspect IMO. I see red spot of what could be blood but I see no trauma to the snake. The blood is just spotted on the snake and if the blood on the bag is actually real, that's quite a lot of blood considering it's so red and on the outside of the bag so it would of had to soak through and quite quickly to still be so red which is highly unlikely. The other thing that I noticed is the snakes mouth is closed in a normal position with no blood around it. For a snake to die and bleed that much where did all the blood come from if there are no lacerations on the body and the blood didn't come out of the mouth? At first I thought maybe the snake was taken out of the box and beaten while it was in the bag and not by some kids next door that decided to vandalize their neighbors mail. But I have a suspicion the snake in the photo might in fact be alive. The way the body is it looks like it's about to right itself from being held or positioned on its back for the photo. A dead snake that was just beaten to death won't have any muscle tone and would be limp as a wet noodle and that snake does not look that way at all.
LauraB
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ClarkT
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Yeah, I thought the same. A dead snake's tail doesn't curl. Seems quite obvious. I don't have a smart phone, so the pics when I first saw them were on a tiny little phone screen. It wasn't until right before I posted them that I loaded them from phone to computer.
What "Animal Control" would you suggest that I call?
A bit of a funny note... He claimed that he had no idea how to ship snakes. On his FB page, he's friends with "Ophidian Reptiles". I told him it's no problem. Just take the blackheads to Ophidian Reptiles (in Des Moines, relatively close to him), and I'll contact them and pay for them to ship them to me.
He then asked, "Where's Ophidian Reptiles?" That's when I told him it's in Des Moines, and that his FB page shows that he's friends with them. It's been silent since.
I'm ticked that I was stupid enough to go for this trade. Like I said, I've done trades before. I've had success every other time. Never again. Stupid scammers...
What "Animal Control" would you suggest that I call?
A bit of a funny note... He claimed that he had no idea how to ship snakes. On his FB page, he's friends with "Ophidian Reptiles". I told him it's no problem. Just take the blackheads to Ophidian Reptiles (in Des Moines, relatively close to him), and I'll contact them and pay for them to ship them to me.
He then asked, "Where's Ophidian Reptiles?" That's when I told him it's in Des Moines, and that his FB page shows that he's friends with them. It's been silent since.
I'm ticked that I was stupid enough to go for this trade. Like I said, I've done trades before. I've had success every other time. Never again. Stupid scammers...
ClarkT
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Umm.... I'm Select Morphs. That's how I posted the pics, was with my photobucket, lol.
ClarkT
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See my facebook in my signature?
LauraB
CLOSED ACCOUNT
Oh geez ....
Where's the emoticon thingy for totally and completely red-faced?
Where's the emoticon thingy for totally and completely red-faced?
ClarkT
New member
No problem...kinda comical!
The photos of his face are the ones I have seen before.
The photos of the snake related stuff trigger the spidey sense, but I have not seen those before.
The photos of the snake related stuff trigger the spidey sense, but I have not seen those before.
LauraB
CLOSED ACCOUNT
Glad I could provide a little comic relief
And yeah, I'm laughing at my overzealous self, as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-f1dPN35uU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I still cannot place where I have seen him before.
I still cannot place where I have seen him before.
Pasodama
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Clark, sorry to see that this is happening to you.
As someone pointed out, you upheld your end so that means this person is still obligated to uphold their end. If neighbor kids really did kill the snakes, it is up to "Runde" to seek compensation from those individuals (and should have filed a police report).
Unfortunately, the things that "Runde" has said/done, has the ring of untruths/misleading.
The photos he sent look staged to me. The "blood" (don't know what he used as blood), on the snake bag, is too red, too concentrated on just one spot of the bag, and too even. That is not what it would look like if a snake had been beaten, while in a bag, creating that amount of blood.
The snake looks staged as well. It is not limp, does not have the injuries consistent with that much blood, etc. Plus, there should be no reason for all those "blood" spots above, and around, the snake. Whether this happened, or not, those spots of "blood" would be consistent with trying to apply something on a snake.
Also want to add that, with very little work, I can get some of my Balls (maybe most) to remain in that upside down position.
As someone pointed out, you upheld your end so that means this person is still obligated to uphold their end. If neighbor kids really did kill the snakes, it is up to "Runde" to seek compensation from those individuals (and should have filed a police report).
Unfortunately, the things that "Runde" has said/done, has the ring of untruths/misleading.
The photos he sent look staged to me. The "blood" (don't know what he used as blood), on the snake bag, is too red, too concentrated on just one spot of the bag, and too even. That is not what it would look like if a snake had been beaten, while in a bag, creating that amount of blood.
The snake looks staged as well. It is not limp, does not have the injuries consistent with that much blood, etc. Plus, there should be no reason for all those "blood" spots above, and around, the snake. Whether this happened, or not, those spots of "blood" would be consistent with trying to apply something on a snake.
Also want to add that, with very little work, I can get some of my Balls (maybe most) to remain in that upside down position.
ShadowAceD
Lagniappe Exotics
Clark, did he text you that photo? I want to pull the EXIF data on it to see the date it was taken.
There's no coagulation to the blood and it really is just entirely too red and too uniform on that bag for an animal that was supposedly smashed in it.
If he sent you the pic via phone or e-mail, I can recover the data.
There's no coagulation to the blood and it really is just entirely too red and too uniform on that bag for an animal that was supposedly smashed in it.
If he sent you the pic via phone or e-mail, I can recover the data.
ShadowAceD
Lagniappe Exotics
I want the second photo with the bloody bag too.
smigon
Old enough to know better
Yes, it looks like red food coloring, look at his finger. It is still wet. Blood would, by the time he took that pic would be darker and coagulated.
smigon
Old enough to know better
Maybe he IS a genius! It says on his FB page that he graduated from Drake University when he was 13. But now he works at Jimmy John's as a "sandwhich" maker. I think he failed spelling at Drake.