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Info US GLOBAL EXOTICS SPCA RAID

And the HSUS and SPCA are part of this agenda. I refuse to donate to or be part of either. They are just one step away from PETA. Local organizations are one thing....the national organization is not our friend. They are not PRO exotic animals, and any money /donations you send them are counterproductive.
 
Actually it appears to me that Justin Mitcham just has an axe to grind concerning Jasen Shaw and apparently me as well, as I was dragged into this thread by name. Probably a bit of gloating on his part as well from whatever personal issues Justin has.

But all things being considered, I don't really place much stock in what neither the Humane Society nor SPCA has to say about such things. They are more interested in providing black eyes for their target of the day then apparently anything else, and from I saw from the video(s), it was more of a media event then anything else. If they take someone's animals that is in this type of business and put that business on hold indefinitely, what will be the likely result? Why more then likely it will drive them OUT of business. These guys are operating on thick enough margins where they can ride out having no cash flow for very long. And since Jasen was moving animals from sources to final destinations as mostly the middle man, what happens when those animals die from the delay in getting to those destinations? Who eats the cost of that?

Heck, starving animals? Probably if you told most of those people that the anaconda hadn't been fed in two weeks they would be shocked thinking it was being starved to death in their ignorance of the animals they are looking at. Animals going cannibalistic? Yeah, mice will do that.... :rolleyes:

Do you REALLY think this was just a coincidence with legislation being debated about certain reptiles in captivity most likely being sold by US Global Exotics? So tell me, who is actually behind that legislation? Any relation to the people behind this raid?
 
Do you REALLY think this was just a coincidence with legislation being debated about certain reptiles in captivity most likely being sold by US Global Exotics? So tell me, who is actually behind that legislation? Any relation to the people behind this raid?

I do not think it was coincidence the timing is just too convenient. JMHO
 
This is only the tip of the iceberg .More will come more will fall.Guide lines for the reptile industry will be tested then tried then arrested and tried.(This is only just begun) ,The words of Karen Carpenter.
 
Well atleast in FLORIDA you are represented and regulated by FLORIDA fish and wildlife.
They make sure things are not out of hand, and proper caging, etc are done. If animal control gets there pants in a bunch and raids your place, FWS will confiscate the animals from THEM and use their enforcment powers on them. There has been many times when animal control has showed up at peoples places with animal planet for Miami Animal Police and they were told by FWS they cannot enforce state laws and gotten in BIG trouble for confiscating alligators( which animal control has no permits for) and others. . Thankfully FWS here in florida is PRO animal keeping as long as its humane, safe, and follows the permits, rules.
I honestly think country wide, Florida regulations on exotics should be implemented. Its pro-keeping responsibly.
Animal control in almost every other state has no idea how to care for anything but a dog or cat. Even then, they put them down so they DONT have to take care of them.
 
According to various reports, the final tally of animals removed ranges from approximately 26,000-26,882 animals, with the deceased number being 603.

Doing some simple math, that means the mortality rate ranges from 0.023 % to 0.022 %, which is far less than even 1% of the total animals.

Believe facts, not the media.

Actually using the higher total of animals(26,882) it would be 2.24% of the animals were dead.
 
Is there any access to how any of these organizations actually take care of seized animals ?I would love to see their so-called " humane " keeping methods .I have a feeling we would see some worse thongs than what supposedly happened here .
 
The reason for asking is if it's anything like some of our state agencies around the U.S.,some of these animals will actually fare worse .I am sure some have improved,but this "take everything now,sort it out later policy" is just as irresponsible as any bad owner .
 
Fortunately for the animals, some very knowledgeable members of the DFW Herp Society have been asked to assist with identification and proper care. Caresheets were also asked for and delivered.
 
Does anyone know the breakdown of the 26000+ animals......I know that when I was breeding rats I had roughtly 3000 adults and 10000 new babies every month and it was not that much work for 1 person to do AND that was without any sort of automatic watering system.
 
Rich like I said you are so very full of yourself...when someone critizies you do you always attack a person character and business??...LOL I guess thats why the BOI was started and why it is now dead.. or in your own words..has "failed"
The masses are quite sick of you and this constant crap here, and you can see it from the lack of any real support this site has..most of your friends have deserted you...even seen some pretty funny threads on here about them stabbing you in the back in worst ways possible... wow you've really been a success and made something of yourself...LOL made yourself into the Jerry Springer of the trade...
The reason why people usually do stuff like that is because of fear and loathing..think about it!!
FYI
My business ExtremeHogs is doing very well and is growing at a rate of 40-50% a year..Was in reptiles magazine in Nov and been on Reptile Radio 2x...how about you 2? and all this despite my poor upbringing..I am 100% self made no breaks no help..
Brian I havn't seen my mom since I was 18 and have no clue if she is live or dead.. So please keep her out of your mouth. Since you obviously have something against poor people I like to bring up many well known breeders Like the Loves started out in a mobile home.. I guess there trailer trash in your eyes as well..
But did you know I own a 120k house in orange texas that was willed to me recently, My dad came down with cancer and lost his job..so he lives there now...could sell it and buy a really nice place..but I am not that way. I am only 32 and have a lot of opportunities left. Another point my collection of hogs is close to the 175k mark quite a stash of loot if you ask me..then there's our 20k in coral..2 cars + 1 67 toronado muscle car restoration project(only 21,000built), land in east tx..quite a bit in the bank..etc.. so don't be so quick to judge someone.
Rich you said you don't investigate your customers...so why the hell the BOI Rich..that is one very bad lie bro.. I have seen threads myself where you have checked up on others..So why not Global??...ONE WORD MONEY.
I also like the attack on my character and medical diagnosis mixed with "were praying for you" what a load and please don't use a Faith in this manner unless you really mean it...
Also I was never in Daytona..I sold out most of my stuff before then. So stop making things up...reason I know about Daytona is because a former close friend of yours called me up blasting you for selling below wholesale at the show , lots of families that were hit hard by the recession were counting on selling there stuff and had a hard time competing with you...wow...weren't you mister integrity at one point..what happened, didn't you even think about your fellow man? Again here I am standing up for people I don't even know who are to intimidated to come on here and say something to you. I am proud to be that person Rich. I do what I think is right and can care less what others think of me for it.
And Rich.. attacking me personally like that ..man must of hit a nerve.. but keep in mind I am not the one who's business is failing..I am not the one who is giving up because the BOI has caused so much "negativity" in your life...your own words Jerry.
In the end if your selling mass quantities of animals to someone..please check up on them and make sure they are taking proper care of them. Or just get a import/export permit and do the business yourself if you have doubts. Time for us to get with the program before the program cancels us out..
Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com check it out!!!
 
Justin,

I believe your concern of what anyone sells their stock for is unreasonable. This country is founded on free enterprise. I will sell for whatever price I choose. I have given away lots of high end animals for a few dollars and other times hold my pricing firm. I don't believe there to be a market crash from someone exiting this business and dropping his prices far enough to get them sold. Lots of places have going out of business sales and they drop everything to almost nothing. When a local pet store was going out I bought 60 visions for pennies on the dollar but I don't believe that to crash the market for others trying to sell cages. As to Global, they are like all large scale set ups, not as neat and clean as any of us would like. Lost animals, like it or not come with the territory in that sector of this business. I am glad you seem to care about these animals but no one has posted any documentation of anything out of bounds as of yet.
 
Rich like I said you are so very full of yourself...when someone critizies you do you always attack a person character and business??...LOL I guess thats why the BOI was started and why it is now dead.. or in your own words..has "failed"
The masses are quite sick of you and this constant crap here, and you can see it from the lack of any real support this site has..most of your friends have deserted you...even seen some pretty funny threads on here about them stabbing you in the back in worst ways possible... wow you've really been a success and made something of yourself...LOL made yourself into the Jerry Springer of the trade...
The reason why people usually do stuff like that is because of fear and loathing..think about it!!
FYI
My business ExtremeHogs is doing very well and is growing at a rate of 40-50% a year..Was in reptiles magazine in Nov and been on Reptile Radio 2x...how about you 2? and all this despite my poor upbringing..I am 100% self made no breaks no help..
Brian I havn't seen my mom since I was 18 and have no clue if she is live or dead.. So please keep her out of your mouth. Since you obviously have something against poor people I like to bring up many well known breeders Like the Loves started out in a mobile home.. I guess there trailer trash in your eyes as well..
But did you know I own a 120k house in orange texas that was willed to me recently, My dad came down with cancer and lost his job..so he lives there now...could sell it and buy a really nice place..but I am not that way. I am only 32 and have a lot of opportunities left. Another point my collection of hogs is close to the 175k mark quite a stash of loot if you ask me..then there's our 20k in coral..2 cars + 1 67 toronado muscle car restoration project(only 21,000built), land in east tx..quite a bit in the bank..etc.. so don't be so quick to judge someone.
Rich you said you don't investigate your customers...so why the hell the BOI Rich..that is one very bad lie bro.. I have seen threads myself where you have checked up on others..So why not Global??...ONE WORD MONEY.
I also like the attack on my character and medical diagnosis mixed with "were praying for you" what a load and please don't use a Faith in this manner unless you really mean it...
Also I was never in Daytona..I sold out most of my stuff before then. So stop making things up...reason I know about Daytona is because a former close friend of yours called me up blasting you for selling below wholesale at the show , lots of families that were hit hard by the recession were counting on selling there stuff and had a hard time competing with you...wow...weren't you mister integrity at one point..what happened, didn't you even think about your fellow man? Again here I am standing up for people I don't even know who are to intimidated to come on here and say something to you. I am proud to be that person Rich. I do what I think is right and can care less what others think of me for it.
And Rich.. attacking me personally like that ..man must of hit a nerve.. but keep in mind I am not the one who's business is failing..I am not the one who is giving up because the BOI has caused so much "negativity" in your life...your own words Jerry.
In the end if your selling mass quantities of animals to someone..please check up on them and make sure they are taking proper care of them. Or just get a import/export permit and do the business yourself if you have doubts. Time for us to get with the program before the program cancels us out..
Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com check it out!!!

Justin Mitcham, you are a first class idiot.

You started this thread about a company that was raided. You then jumped Rich because he has sold to them. I say, SO WHAT, If Rich or anyone for that matter sells something it is not their responsibility to keep track of the animals after the sale. What someone does with THEIR animals is THEIR business.

So are you going to blast everyone else who has sold animals to Global Exotics?

In that stupid little mind of yours, you must feel that anyone who sold to Global is a fault, is this correct?

As for the BOI, I will say that there are some issues that should be address. In some cases threads seem to get out of hand.

This BOI is not dead and is a very useful tool.

Rich did not crash the market on anything in Daytona. There were albino boas being sold for $100.00 and albino balls for $150.00, but people selling those kinds of animals are not here complaining, JUST YOU.

You and your friends are big time cry babies. The market sucks for everyone. It shows what little class you have to come on here and say the things that you have said.

Having money does not buy you respect or esteem.

You, Justin Mitchem, can have all the money in the world and you will still be a LOSER.

As far as your mom not talking to you, it just shows that she does have some brains after all.

Your mom knew from day one you were a piece of crap, and now you have shown all of us what she knew all along.

Grow up, BOY.

Brian Dierking
 
These types of posts make me sick .Is it to possible to focus on the topic at hand.Jason got scewed simple as that.The market is a market.A peson may sell fo any price they choose to put a limit is a federal offence and is called price setting it is a crime ...
 
Rich like I said you are so very full of yourself...when someone critizies you do you always attack a person character and business??...LOL I guess thats why the BOI was started and why it is now dead.. or in your own words..has "failed"
The masses are quite sick of you and this constant crap here, and you can see it from the lack of any real support this site has..most of your friends have deserted you...even seen some pretty funny threads on here about them stabbing you in the back in worst ways possible... wow you've really been a success and made something of yourself...LOL made yourself into the Jerry Springer of the trade...
The reason why people usually do stuff like that is because of fear and loathing..think about it!!
FYI
My business ExtremeHogs is doing very well and is growing at a rate of 40-50% a year..Was in reptiles magazine in Nov and been on Reptile Radio 2x...how about you 2? and all this despite my poor upbringing..I am 100% self made no breaks no help..
Brian I havn't seen my mom since I was 18 and have no clue if she is live or dead.. So please keep her out of your mouth. Since you obviously have something against poor people I like to bring up many well known breeders Like the Loves started out in a mobile home.. I guess there trailer trash in your eyes as well..
But did you know I own a 120k house in orange texas that was willed to me recently, My dad came down with cancer and lost his job..so he lives there now...could sell it and buy a really nice place..but I am not that way. I am only 32 and have a lot of opportunities left. Another point my collection of hogs is close to the 175k mark quite a stash of loot if you ask me..then there's our 20k in coral..2 cars + 1 67 toronado muscle car restoration project(only 21,000built), land in east tx..quite a bit in the bank..etc.. so don't be so quick to judge someone.
Rich you said you don't investigate your customers...so why the hell the BOI Rich..that is one very bad lie bro.. I have seen threads myself where you have checked up on others..So why not Global??...ONE WORD MONEY.
I also like the attack on my character and medical diagnosis mixed with "were praying for you" what a load and please don't use a Faith in this manner unless you really mean it...
Also I was never in Daytona..I sold out most of my stuff before then. So stop making things up...reason I know about Daytona is because a former close friend of yours called me up blasting you for selling below wholesale at the show , lots of families that were hit hard by the recession were counting on selling there stuff and had a hard time competing with you...wow...weren't you mister integrity at one point..what happened, didn't you even think about your fellow man? Again here I am standing up for people I don't even know who are to intimidated to come on here and say something to you. I am proud to be that person Rich. I do what I think is right and can care less what others think of me for it.
And Rich.. attacking me personally like that ..man must of hit a nerve.. but keep in mind I am not the one who's business is failing..I am not the one who is giving up because the BOI has caused so much "negativity" in your life...your own words Jerry.
In the end if your selling mass quantities of animals to someone..please check up on them and make sure they are taking proper care of them. Or just get a import/export permit and do the business yourself if you have doubts. Time for us to get with the program before the program cancels us out..
Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com check it out!!!



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