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Vincent Russello, attempting a scam

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Vincent Rusello, attempting a scam

I read this thread here... http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=114200#post114200

Where Vince is essentially advertising for his auction in the discussion forums, which is a violation of fauna rules. There's a link there to reptibid where Vince has an auction going for a "One of kind red leo!"

I'll attach the photo which shows up when you initially open the ad at the bottom of this post.

The text of his ad is as follows-

Great opportunity to begin breeding a NEW color phase leopard gecko!!!

This is an adult male, RED LEOPARD GECKO!! he does have quit a few spots on his head and back, but shows rich red color from his head to his carrot tail. think of the possablitys if bred to the right females. and best of all this auction has NO RESERVE!! and a starting bid of 25 dollars! he is a proven breeder and has produced a few fertile eggs with some of my femaless. shipping is 35. and i do expect paypal with a 4% paypal fee. and I will accept money orders as well as a personal check .
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So we have Vince claiming that you can breed the colors shown, this indicates the color is proven genetic, it's not for reasons which will be made evident. We also have him adding a fee for PayPal users, a situation which voltaes their TOS and is, in some areas, illegal.

I'm going to respond to this post with a second post, the second photo of the gecko... look at both photos carefully and make a decision about the one which shows up first when the ad is loaded. I think it's outright fraudulent. I believe others will agree.
 

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which voltaes their TOS
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That should read "which violates their TOS"

Here's the second photo which appears in the Ad, as a tiny, tiny, tiny thumbnail that you have to click to enlarge. I suspect it's a much more honest representation of the animal's color... especially because in the first photo, the background is the same color as the animal.

If this is a true idea of the animal's color, then the first photo is blatantly fraudulent as a representation of the animal for sale.
 

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A few other things

It appears in that first photo there is a redlight being shown on the leo , as you can see the red reflection of the light on the blue lid on the edge and up above in the background.

Also not only is he adding the paypal 3% but adding in a extra 1% for his on good
 
first of all i didnt know posting a link to reptibid was against the rules. but those are actual photos not touched up not doctored in any way. the photo apears blurry due to poor lighting and not so high quality camra. this is a poor atempt to futher this mans dislike of me on a personal level. as for the adding of 3% if purchased with paypal , it is a very common request. paypal charges this fee on in comeing money, and if someone would like to use the convenice and safty of paying threw paypal i request that they pay that fee, and not my self. i dont under stand what is going on here. do you think im a bad guy becuse I took a bad pic? or becuse i request that a buyer pays the paypal fee? or becuse you dont like me and wanted to vent some anger?
 
guess a red light was used with this white t shirt too right. this is no light trick. i used a heatlamp with a regular light bulb 40watt to increase the light in the room for a better photo. if anything this took away from the true color. 4 was a typo , i would not attempt to make money off a paypal fee. yeah 1% in my pocket , give me a break
 

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The pieces of stuff (substrate?) on the lid are the same color as the leo though...

Something commonly seen when an inexpert attempt is made to edit the tint of a photo using Adobe. Plus Vince claims that he used a yellow light bulb (in the thread in the leo discussion forum). One way or another, he's lying.

Either way, be it a solid red bulb or photoshopping- if I paid eighty bucks (the current auction price) for the animal in photo one and ended up egtting the animal in photo two shipped to me, I'd feel ripped off... Had it been advertised as "Leopard gecko under red lightbulb" rather than as being an accurate representation of the animal's color, it might be different... but the animal isn't what he's representing it as. That's fraud.
 
this gecko looks exactly like it is pictured. if i said "Leopard gecko under red lightbulb" then i would be lieing. the first pic is just blurry. and in no way shape or form has this pic been re-touched or a lighting stunt been pulled. that is what this gecko looks like.
 
I just noticed that I missed one of the S's in Vince's last name in the thread title too... If one of the moderators gets a few moments and doesn't mind, could that be edited so it's accurate? Wouldn't want anyone doing a search on Vince to miss this (further) example of his behavior.
 
Hello Vince...
Its actually illegal for a payment receiver to charge any type of fee for using paypal...let alone any other payment services...visa/mastercard/debit cards. Basically what it comes down to is you cant charge your customers a fee just because paypal charges you a fee.

Copied from Paypals TOS

No Surcharges. Under Visa, MasterCard, Discover and American Express regulations and the laws of several states, including California, merchants may not charge a fee to the buyer for accepting credit card payments (often called a "surcharge"). You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as payment. This restriction does not prevent you from imposing a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge (in other words, the handling fee for transactions paid through PayPal may not be higher than the handling fee for transactions paid through other payment methods). Sellers residing in the United Kingdom and listing items for sale on a UK-based website may impose a surcharge, but only under the following conditions:

Both the buyer and seller reside in the United Kingdom;

The purchase price is paid in pounds sterling;

The surcharge imposed by the seller is no greater than is necessary to recover the receiving fees incurred by the seller;

The seller clearly indicates to the buyer prior to the buyer's submission of a bid or (in non-auction transactions) prior to completion of the purchase that a surcharge will be incurred and the amount of the surcharge.
 
For what it's worth

Vince,
I don't really have any opinion on the animal in the pic(s) but would comment that the best I see is a nice orange/tangerine coloration on the tail.

As for the extra % on the PayPal, it is illegal in approx. 50%+ of the US and does violate PayPal's TOS for using their service. A complaint on this issue could result in them coming back on you in an unfriendly manner. While this may not have been real important over a year ago, it is now that E-Bay purchased PayPal. They tend to handle these issues a little more strictly and put extra emphasis on following their rules to a "T." They are also more apt to take legal action if necessary as all users of their sites have agreed to abide by their terms of service (registered with everything logged against your ISP.) This is why you have to jump through a few hoops any time you change e-mail addresses or physical addresses which might alter our ISP address. They'll have you by the short arm if you're not extremely careful.

In order to avoid this issue, many sellers who use E-Bay's PayPal will calculate this expenditure as part of the S/H rather than make so bold a statement outright. Even then, you're unlikely to recover the 3% loss. That's referred to as the "cost of doing business" with any credit card company or site which works in a very similar manner. Heck, add that cost to the initial cost of the animal and quit operating in a deceptive (for lack of a better word right now) manner.

David
 
Why don't you post a picture here that shows the same color red as the first picture? Then we might believe you.. because.. the picture you posted on the white t-shirt does not even come close to being red.
 
i had no idea that it was not under there TOS i seen so many others with the same fee on reptibid, I am going to edit the auction to not include the 3% as well as many others that i have running. i still stand behind my leo 100%. the one on the tshirt is the best i can do with my camra. but i will see what i can do.
 
I agree with Scott please show another pic or so like the first one and that will clear it up but I think the red sharpie idea is good too.( you might be on to something if you by the multicolor pack)
Jesse VanHorn
 
another so/so pic. but it should help.

i have updated all my reptibid auctions as well as contaceted paypal and let them know of my misunderstanding. I my self had payed this 3% fee when sending money for purchases threw paypal.
 

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Vince,
You have t admit that the first picture can in no way be the true color. The last two i can believe, but that first one looks inhanced. All i can say is you should get rid of that first picture. It couldn't turn around and bite you in the end if the wrong person gets that little guy. You could end up in a world full of pain and legal problems.
 
the first photo is a combination of bad lighting as well as a blurry photo, at the time those where the only two pics I had. I thought it represented the gecko well for a blurry photo, i did include a clearer photo in the same listing!!!! it was claimed as a small thumb nail, thats not how it was intended, but if you click on it , it should expand.
 
Re: Vincent Rusello, attempting a scam

Seamus Haley said:

Where Vince is essentially advertising for his auction in the discussion forums, which is a violation of fauna rules
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Seemus,

That was clearly an AD in the Leopard gecko forsale/wanted section, not a discussion forum. along with you thinking this is a photoshop pic it seems your powers of observation need an adjustment
 
this is a copy of what has been added to all of my reptibid auctions:


"plase disregard the paypal fee. sorry everyone i didnt know it was against paypal rules. othersellers please take note, asking for an added fee is against paypal TOS!!"

I hope this will help to inform others who also request this additon.
 
wow...

that pic is definitely a better one than before. I'd say that it's either a high-end tangerine or possibly that it is showing hyper-ethyrin (okay, not quite right, but can't look it up right now) traits. I'd be damned if I would consider selling an animal of this quality before I could prove it out. And with Leopard Gex, this shouldn't take more than 18 months with a chance at something very interesting on the other end...especially if the hyper trait is truly possible and could be proven out.

David
 
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