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[DThomas]

Dennis,

It aint the first time she has done it. She brings it up every time I piss her off. Her words about me or towards me dont bother me in the slightest. She is one of the easy ones to put on the "pay no mind list".

Irregardless, I won't stand for it from anyone on this site. No one has the right to drag another's child into an argument in an attempt to use them as a weapon to hurt the other.

 

[Dr Owens]

Sammy, we all gave you sympathy and listened when you spoke of your child.

That was absolutely deplorable. You should be ashamed of yourself Lucille.

Irregardless, I won't stand for it from anyone on this site. No one has the right to drag another's child into an argument in an attempt to use them as a weapon to hurt the other.

Well said Dennis.

 

[BryonsBoas]

Sammy, we all gave you sympathy and listened when you spoke of your child. You need to learn to listen to others, and be a positive influence instead of being nasty and judgmental.

As a parent I find this comment the 2nd lowest thing I've ever seen on this site. The first being Matt's comment to Kelli. You have now put yourself in line with him on my " Sorry Crap Bag People " list.

In my world you rank here....

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Sammy , I never read the post or thread but you have my belated condolences bro. No parent should ever have to lay their child to rest and they DAMN sure don't need some old hag throwing in their face some comment along the lines of " I supported you now you owe me ".
For someone that speaks for Fauna so much you should cut out your tongue lest others think this site is full cess pool swilling bastards that care nothing for others.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

I, Lucille need to learn to listen to others, and be a positive influence instead of being nasty and judgmental.

Fixed yer quote for you Lucille.

Just bringing this back up was nasty and judgmental, and the comment to Sammy was just as low as it gets. Can't believe how hypocritical and manipulative you are at times.

 

[Lucille]

Irregardless, I won't stand for it from anyone on this site. No one has the right to drag another's child into an argument in an attempt to use them as a weapon to hurt the other.

I was not trying to hurt anyone. Sammy said something nasty, and I referenced a thread where all of us really listened to what he had to say. I was pointing out that instead of that kind of talk, we should listen and understand, the way we listened to Sammy in that thread.

Dennis, I would never do what you just accused. I was making a point, and I thought a good one. If it was misunderstood, I apologize.

 

[Laura Fopiano]

Alright mods...I may deserve this but What The FUCK?????

Sorry for that outburst, but I have had about enough of this kind of nonsense lately. I have lost a lot in the last year and a half, however, a child is not one of them. I become very out raged at the hint of the kind of crap of that I have read here today.

I spoke with Kelli on the phone last year when all of this gecko/fauna stuff was going on. I spoke with Marcia after I was verbally attacked on another forum, that woman held me together when no one could. Marcia saved me that night, she spoke to me not only as a minister, but a woman who had been assaulted by the same looser.

Sammy, I read your story and cried, you have always had my admiration and respect my friend.

Lucille, I have stayed out of these feuds with you and others, have exchanged some pm's, enjoyed a chuckle or two, and now I just hang my head in embarrassment for you. I won't yell, loose my temper or put you down, but I will say that "you know how to behave better than this" I hope that what ever is bothering you to be so hurtful to Kelli, Marcia, and Sammy eases for you soon, and that you get some rest from your studies, for it has obviously clouded your ability to think and perform rationally.

My ex father-in-law is lying in a hospital bed dying as I type this, I am 3000 miles away and can not comfort my ex or my step children right now. I can only cry on the phone with my twins that are giving me updates from Cali. All of us should hold those that we love close and make sure that they know that they know how much they are loved and cherished....tragedy can strike anyone of us at any time, and I personally would like a day with a little less pain.

 

[Dragondad]

None one of these people had ANY problem holding other people accountable for THEIR actions while at the very same time using different reasons to excuse their own.

You can't murder someone and then say 'oops, I'm sorry'.........

Lucille, something someone once taught me is when an apology has a "but" or an excuse attached to it, it isnt much of an apology.

Dennis, I would never do what you just accused. I was making a point, and I thought a good one. If it was misunderstood, I apologize.

So Lucille I see a person who is saying that what you said is ok, you were just misunderstood. Thats some apology

 

[Lucille]

My ex father-in-law is lying in a hospital bed dying as I type this

Laura, I am sorry he is dying.

And, again I am sorry for all of those who were upset at my post. I did not mean it the way it was taken, I meant it to encourage listening and understanding.

 

[Dragondad]

I did not mean it the way it was taken, I meant it to encourage listening and understanding.

So are you listening to Marcia and Kelli or understanding Rich and the conversations between him and the others. Show us where you are doing any of this, Lucille practice what you preach.

 

[shrap]

I was not trying to hurt anyone. Sammy said something nasty, and I referenced a thread where all of us really listened to what he had to say. I was pointing out that instead of that kind of talk, we should listen and understand, the way we listened to Sammy in that thread.

You are so full of crap Lucille. The thread I posted that in was not started by me, about me, nor did it have to do with "really listening to" me. That thread didnt have anything to do with me at all. I made that one post in that thread and never said another word about it. Not in that thread or any other thread.

Where you are coming up with all of this "really listening to" me crap and making it sound like I had some kind of ongoing dialogue about it is beyond me and a total figment of your manipulative imagination.

 

[Dr Owens]

And, again I am sorry for all of those who were upset at my post. I did not mean it the way it was taken, I meant it to encourage listening and understanding.

First of all, I think that this is a load of crap.

Second, if you are actually implying that people should give you the same "listening and understanding" that they gave Sammy when he talked about the death of his child, then you are one seriously disturbed woman, Lucille!

Is that what you're saying Lucille? Some people "talked mean about you" and you refuse to get over it, so you think that we should all sit around and offer empathy and support in the way that we would someone who lost a child??? HOW ING DARE YOU!!!

OMG! I am getting MORE pissed as I type! I actually walked away from the computer earlier because I almost posted a profanity laden tirade because you pissed me off so bad! And I come back and see THIS crap???

You know what? THAT'S IT!!! I HAVE HAD IT! I am re-invoking the "I just don't want you here anymore" warning! You can take it up with Rich as to where things should go from here, but for right now you are GONE!

 

[Griz]

Oh my Lucille, oh my.......

Griz

 

[CurtisF]

Wow.

Just wow.



...Wow wow wow. Wow.

Speechless is an understatement.

 

[varnyard]

Lucille Hollander, I have seen these same acts before. I must agree you are a real piece of work, Sammy is 100% correct, this is not the first time. How dare you attack Sammy?? And then I might add, act like you did not mean what you said. It's Bullshit and you know it!! There is no other way to take it!!

Marcia and myself have had our differences, but the way you have attacked her, past/present is uncalled for as well.
No one is blind, you are seen for exactly what you are.

I am so sick of this crap!! Rich, you expect this to be a team of moderators? So our team has people like Lucille, and Bill Leverton on it? We are required to work as a team with them? Count me out as I have stated before, I resign, quit and say the hell with that. I will not be pitted with these scumbags plain and simple. I have too much respect for my hobby to do such.

Rich, what in the hell has happen to the morals around here? Has it all just gone to shit? This place is not what I will call my home, looks to me like the damn thing fell into a cesspool.

 

[Laura Fopiano]

Lucille Hollander, I have seen these same acts before. I must agree you are a real piece of work, Sammy is 100% correct, this is not the first time. How dare you attack Sammy?? And then I might add, act like you did not mean what you said. It's Bullshit and you know it!! There is no other way to take it!!

Marcia and myself have had our differences, but the way you have attacked her, past/present is uncalled for as well.
No one is blind, you are seen for exactly what you are.

I am so sick of this crap!! Rich, you expect this to be a team of moderators? So our team has people like Lucille, and Bill Leverton on it? We are required to work as a team with them? Count me out as I have stated before, I resign, quit and say the hell with that. I will not be pitted with these scumbags plain and simple. I have too much respect for my hobby to do such.

Rich, what in the hell has happen to the morals around here? Has it all just gone to shit? This place is not what I will call my home, looks to me like the damn thing fell into a cesspool.

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Bobby, I lost my temper also, but I would ask you to please take a step back and and rethink your position here. We are a part of the same team, not all of the players will agree and or get along. But loosing a part of a good mod staff is not what we need here, we need solidarity, and unity.

 

[Ed Clark]

Yes Laura, I agree that we all can get hot and say things that we normally would just think and I think that sometimes we all need to step away from the keyboard sometimes to gain perspective.

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Bobby, I lost my temper also, but I would ask you to please take a step back and and rethink your position here. We are a part of the same team, not all of the players will agree and or get along. But loosing a part of a good mod staff is not what we need here, we need solidarity, and unity.

 

[varnyard]

Laura Fopiano: Bobby, I lost my temper also, but I would ask you to please take a step back and and rethink your position here. We are a part of the same team, not all of the players will agree and or get along. But loosing a part of a good mod staff is not what we need here, we need solidarity, and unity.

You know I love ya, and I did do some thinking on this matter. However, one thing keeps ringing out to me, regardless of this new garbage.

Rich has made it quite clear he no longer cares. What does this mean? Well, I think it speaks for itself. If this is the case, then tell me, what's the point? We are here for what?

The heart of this site claims that he does not care, then please tell me why I should? What exactly is it that I should support, when the morals are all shot to hell?

 

[Ed Clark]

I believe that Rich has shouldered the burden here for so long that hes reaching out for some help. not a thing wrong with that.

 

[Dr Owens]

The heart of this site claims that he does not care, then please tell me why I should? What exactly is it that I should support, when the morals are all shot to hell?

Hey Bobby, I hear what you're saying, but it's not like Rich is sitting here defending Lucille. She paid the money to become a mod, and when her behavior wasn't becoming of a mod (let alone a member of this site), then she was shown the door. Considering the fact that Dennis, and Ken were both in agreement with my actions as well as many of the paid mods (at least the ones who have made their opinion known), I don't think that it's fair to say that "the morals are all shot to hell." In fact, I think that the opposite is true based on what has transpired here.

 

[varnyard]

I believe that Rich has shouldered the burden here for so long that hes reaching out for some help. not a thing wrong with that.

So we follow a leader that does not want to lead? We keep going like we are now, in hopes that he will care again? It all sounds great, but the underlying truth is never hidden. The hard facts still remain and show big time here. IMO, ignoring it is not going to make it go away.