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You know Wes you read to far into what I said.. Just pointing out that when you make the most noise you get the most attention.. Not saying you want it but you get it.. Sort of like-- The hurt dog hollers or the squeaky wheel get the grease or take your pick from any number that basically say the same thing..

Wes you have your reasons for what you do, far be it from me to interpret them and I wasn't trying to.

I once defended your actions and responses here I don't know what your up to and don't really want to........Randy
 
Wilomn said:
Are you so positvie of my personal motivations as this Randy? Are you so very sure you know the inner workings of my mind that you can say all I want is attention?

I thought better of you than that.

Maybe I just wanted to see who would do what if I put on the bullseye.

Look at my dung, er I mean ding, log. Who's hit me? For what? When and why?

Look well.

Now look back and see how often in my history here I was hit by the same folks for the same thing.

I haven't changed one thing I'm doing. I'm using the same words, asking the same questions, making the same statements.

NOW though, now that The Inquisition has begun, it is OK for those with no backbone to ding me for what they accepted, neigh they AGREED with, by not disagreeing in the past, by remaining silent, by doing the same themselves on occasion. Those who had no bone to pick with me, or were too cowardly to admit to wanting to pick my bone, so to speak, now have the ability to do so and things have changed.

With power comes responsibility. I have no power, no responsibility.

Has the power used by dand and owens been fairly and justly utilized? Many have said NO.

How were these many shown that these two have not lived up to the standards, minimal though they are, to date?

By one becoming a target.

Who's fired on that target and for what Randy? Some very justified shots were taken by people who know and follow something more than the dogma of, "he hurted me so I'm gonna hurt him back," as is shown by their application of their duties as mods.

dand failed miserably, as most knew he would.

owens, well, he's got history and wishes, by his own words, that I would do something to get myself kicked off the site. Pretty fair moderation from him is to be expected, eh?

Sometimes you need to look beyond the reasons YOU would use Randy, when you are trying to figure out WHY someone else does something YOU would not do. I'm not ragging you here, just pointing out that I did know what I was doing, it did work as I knew it would, and that it wasn't for attention, as you mistakenly thought it was.

Sorry, to steal a quote from "someone"..................

"AHHAAHahahahahaHHAHAHAHAhahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah ahahah"

Does anyone else see the irony in that highlighted statement? :rofl:

Wes, do you THINK that maybe that's why you continue getting all those warning points?

Again....

"AHHAAHahahahahaHHAHAHAHAhahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah ahahah"

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself..........
 
Rich Z said:
Sorry, to steal a quote from "someone"..................

"AHHAAHahahahahaHHAHAHAHAhahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah ahahah"

Does anyone else see the irony in that highlighted statement? :rofl:

Wes, do you THINK that maybe that's why you continue getting all those warning points?

Again....

"AHHAAHahahahahaHHAHAHAHAhahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah ahahah"

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself..........
While I both laugh and applaud you in this most humourous of posts, I think you are missing the point. Purposely?

It's just interesting that the two who are gunning for me most are the same two who have gunned for me the most in the past, though until the recent change one was impotent, heh heh heh probably still is, to do anything about it.

Eh, it's not important in the big picture and I am laughing my ass off, in more than one thread, as a result.

Randy, I tried to go out of my way to NOT insult you, just to point out that what I thought you were thinking I thought may not have been what you thought I was thinking.

Some folks are worth the time to try to explain things to, you being one of those some.
 
About the original topic.......... (not that it was allowed to stray from the original topic :rolleyes: )..........Personally, I find spam and inapropriate advertising easily as offensive as profanity or antagonistic behavior. I think it should carry the same weight.

Accidentally posting it (like a newbie making a mistake).....well, I am sure the people chosen to dole out the points are intelligent enough to know the difference.


Just my 2 cents.
Rick
 
bcfos said:
Paranoid
Paranoid personality disorder is characterized by a distrust of others and a constant suspicion that people around you have sinister motives. People with this disorder tend to have excessive trust in their own knowledge and abilities and usually avoid close relationships with others. They search for hidden meanings in everything and read hostile intentions into the actions of others. They are quick to challenge the loyalties of friends and loved ones and often appear cold and distant to others. They usually shift blame to others and tend to carry long grudges.


Borderline
Borderline personality disorder is characterized by mood instability and poor self-image. People with this disorder are prone to constant mood swings and bouts of anger. Often, they will take their anger out on themselves, causing themselves injury. Suicidal threats and actions are not uncommon. They think in very black and white terms and often form intense, conflict-ridden relationships. They are quick to anger when their expectations are not met.

Histrionic
People with histrionic personality disorder are constant attention seekers. They need to be the center of attention all the time, often interrupting others in order to dominate the conversation. They use grandiose language to discribe everyday events and seek constant praise. They may dress provacatively or exaggerate illnesses in order to gain attention. They also tend to exaggerate friendships and relationships, believing that everyone loves them. They are often manipulative.

narcissistic
Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by self-centeredness. Like histrionic disorder, people with this disorder seek attention and praise. They exaggerate their achievements, expecting others to recongize them as being superior. They tend to be choosy about picking friends, since they believe that not just anyone is worthy of being their friend. They tend to make good first impressions, yet have difficulty maintaining long-lasting relationships. They are generally uninterested in the feelings of others and may take advantage of them.


Hit them all with that one little bitty statement. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:






Though I really don't care that much for dand on a personal level, Rich is an alright type of fellow. Cares a little too much when he should maybe let things go but at least the guy cares what happens. I don't see Rich as an idol per se, just a fellow who tries his best to keep things running here and have a some what normal life outside of the internet (though one really can't have a totally normal life outside the internet and run a site of this size).

Also see above posted definitions for more in depth reference. As for a little proof (you know what that is I take it), may I point reference to the following statements made by none other that Wes. Someone who goes around brandishing himself as "no one of consequence".





Now which was it? Jay or just everyone who pushed you to leave the site? Oh wait a minute.... You didn't leave on your own accord, you were BANNED!!! Oh yeah that is what I call leaving on your own (insert the term liar here please)... :rolleyes: Yet after some time you were compelled to want back and insert rather useless drivel into any thread which might garner a lot of attention. For someone who wanted out sooooo bad you sure were and "eager beaver" when it came to jumping right back in after Rich was kind enough to lift some ban's. This equates to both hypocricy (which you state you are not a huge fan of) and being a liar (where you so boldly stated you would not come back to Fauna due to your "treatment" here). I have to say it has been a huge laugh watching you break what you claim to stand for though.. It is a slippery slope you have managed to "perch" yourself on.. And there are tons more in my "Wes running his mouth" file I have yet to even go over and connect to here :dgrin: .

Now, many of us who KNOW all of the above are quite quite amused that dandy did JUST AS WE KNEW HE WOULD for the reasons we knew he would.

That is some HIGH humor. He may well have impressed his cronies by his daring doo, but in reality he has merely shot himself in the foot by his NEED to brag about it, to make it public to MAKE SURE everyone knew he got off the first shot.

People who have such needs are often lacking pride and value of self. Hmmmm, ponder that dandy. People who need others to tell them how cool they are or what a good job they did are often notthe most secure folks out there, often not the most intelligent, often not the nicest people out there.

None of this is new. I've said it all before. He is JUST intelligent enough to know that he was insulted in the past and is now doing what he can to even up a score that only he can see.



Much like you huh??? :rofl:

:iagree: Brian has got it right.
 
Naw Jim, I like the ones like the infamous year on Dallas IE it was just a dream!!! Randy
 
I guess a lot has been going on, too bad I don't have the time nor need to add any drama to my life at this time. I had enough drama in my personal life the last couple of years to last me a life time. I just want to focus on my family and friends and I mean true friends not the so and so's.

Yes, there have been times that I have needed all of this drama and anger to keep me going but that must have been when I was really unhappy and needed something to be a part of and something (or someone to take it out on) and that made me be a part of it all.

I guess at 37 its about time I grow up and find myself and the things that I need for me, ME and MY family!

Its not funny anymore, at least not to me, Im not so much on tearing people down and slapping this one for that and the other for that anymore, it was fun while I was addicted to it but man leaving an addiction is a good thing, don't ya think! I was addicted to being a "butt" and it was allowed, then it wasn't, then you get points, then you don't. What's next?

We all have opinions its either freedom of speech no matter how you say it or not. Its really that simple, so point a few for saying ass instead of butt or whatever, its all the same thing in the end and nothing changes things that have already happened. Ever!

PS I like my new Direct TV I have 155 or so channels to choose from and very few are drama only.
 
? about points being dinged on.

Now I am not be very bright like the moderator tried to infer by his little memo he gave me about the description of the reason why I received my warning, but I have an honest question. How many points can one be assessed for the same post and can different moderators continue to assess warning points after another moderator has done this. I guess I found out the hard way that using *** in place of letters you can still be assessed points for profanity. That part I can take my beating on but to continually be spanked by different moderators for the same crime, doesn't double jeopardy apply at all. Im not sure but I think maybe it could be that I came in support of an illustrious member who tends to go outside the lines but I don't feel like I was that out of line. I was on here for 6 months or so before I made my first post, outside of responding to sellers, and the reason being I did not want become involved in this soap opera. I tried very hard to keep people on the up and up about the reason for this forum but I got tired of seeing a member come to this forum and antagonizing another member and the moderators not penalizing him at all. I was a member of the other forum and witnessed the damage he created and then he came here again and tried to start it all over. So i stepped up to the plate but I also should have realized that one of the newly appointed moderators has an issue with this person and since I backed him guess who was the first to ding me about my post. People need to realize that when they are placed in positions of authority and evaluation they have to set their personal feelings aside. I do it everyday in my profession. This post is not to antagonize the moderators or anyone else but I think I raise some valid questions and I am not the only member that has said anything. Rich I think this is a wonderful medium but I am not sure some of the underlings are getting you message or may bea little overbearing in their use of warning points. (I know I will probably get penalized for this and if that is the case well I will not post on any of the BOI again. Obviously the members may not be able to question any of the uses of this forum). :angry:
 
mcgrath5860 said:
Now I am not be very bright like the moderator tried to infer by his little memo he gave me about the description of the reason why I received my warning, but I have an honest question. How many points can one be assessed for the same post and can different moderators continue to assess warning points after another moderator has done this. I guess I found out the hard way that using *** in place of letters you can still be assessed points for profanity. That part I can take my beating on but to continually be spanked by different moderators for the same crime, doesn't double jeopardy apply at all. Im not sure but I think maybe it could be that I came in support of an illustrious member who tends to go outside the lines but I don't feel like I was that out of line. I was on here for 6 months or so before I made my first post, outside of responding to sellers, and the reason being I did not want become involved in this soap opera. I tried very hard to keep people on the up and up about the reason for this forum but I got tired of seeing a member come to this forum and antagonizing another member and the moderators not penalizing him at all. I was a member of the other forum and witnessed the damage he created and then he came here again and tried to start it all over. So i stepped up to the plate but I also should have realized that one of the newly appointed moderators has an issue with this person and since I backed him guess who was the first to ding me about my post. People need to realize that when they are placed in positions of authority and evaluation they have to set their personal feelings aside. I do it everyday in my profession. This post is not to antagonize the moderators or anyone else but I think I raise some valid questions and I am not the only member that has said anything. Rich I think this is a wonderful medium but I am not sure some of the underlings are getting you message or may bea little overbearing in their use of warning points. (I know I will probably get penalized for this and if that is the case well I will not post on any of the BOI again. Obviously the members may not be able to question any of the uses of this forum). :angry:

There is no limitation on how many members with the ability to assess warning points can "ding" you. That is the reason that I made the suspension level so high. The more people here with that ability, the more likely it will happen, even accidentally. But the more offensive the post to more people, the more likely it is that multiple warning points will result.

In the context of what you wrote, profanity is profanity regardless of the words around it nor the opinion or target of the rest of the post. Some threads by and about some particular members may be monitored more closely than others, therefore a rule infraction in them will likely get more attention as well.

The reason for the "little memo" is because nine times out of ten, someone getting a warning point will fire back a private message asking "Why?". So the text is an effort to head off that pm before it happens.

As for the mods being overbearing, sorry, I disagree. There is no doubt in my mind that you did use profanity in your post, and as such any and all warning points you get for it are certainly justified.

As for your comments in the parenthesis at the end of you post, blowing off steam because someone was blatantly caught violating a rule here is not at all unusual. And thank you for giving us a public example of exactly what is the rule here, rather than the exception, when someone gets a JUSTIFIED warning assessed.

Now, normally the next step is for the person getting the warning point to scour this site looking for someone else who may have done the same thing WITHOUT getting a warning so they can cry "BIAS!" against them.... :rolleyes:

The solution is quite simple, really. Don't violate the rules and you don't run the risk of getting warning points.
 
You are exactly right

Rich since we have created a NAZI state then the nazis will rat out the infidels. If you read your own posts within this thread #21, #87 you used the same word that i was dinged for yet you do not have any negative points. Posts #134, #136 are clear violations of antagonizing another member but nothing was done. Post #141 the usage of a male body part and the antagonism listed towards the moderators were clearly stated. Post #101 but one of the moderators the use of profanity. Nothing done on all these accounts. Well I referee basketball and if its a founl on one end of the court it better be a foul on the other. Also you need to read the little memo you DR. Owens sent me. What he inferred is worthy of some investigation. One day I will meet this gentlemen and we will speak about our backgrounds and our knowledge of this reptile world and find out where the stupid person really lies. I am hoping I run into him at a reptile show soon. Rich read some of my previous posts I have done nothing but support you in your endeavor and tried to stop any futher demise of it but some of the individuals that you have turned this over to need some lessons in professionalism. They have got this Irishman's blood aboilin. The beast has been release and yes I will police others actions like I have in the past but much like WWII eventually someone ended in the gas chambers. Hopefully it won't be this site. I do have e better understanding of how Wes gets worked up because some people on here play to many games, push buttons and don't seem to be penalized on it. Now you can PM and we will speak about this but until my last post you will not find I have posted anything negative on this site and thats got my dander up even more.

PS... Does using the acronym "LMAO" count as profanity?
 
MR.Thomas

It response to your post. So what you are saying is with 41 people having the capability to assess points and all 41 read it and profanity it 2 points. If my Southern Illinois math works right that would be 82 points for one post possible. If you are only allowed 300 before being suspended or banned that not such a large gap is it? Then you have to pay money to be allowed back on huh? Maybe Griz wasn't completely off in his logic after all HMMMMMMMMM food for thought
 
mcgrath5860 said:
It response to your post. So what you are saying is with 41 people having the capability to assess points and all 41 read it and profanity it 2 points. If my Southern Illinois math works right that would be 82 points for one post possible. If you are only allowed 300 before being suspended or banned that not such a large gap is it? Then you have to pay money to be allowed back on huh? Maybe Griz wasn't completely off in his logic after all HMMMMMMMMM food for thought

Michael, I doubt you need worry about all 41 hitting you with warning points at one time. It is as Rich stated, don't break the rules and you will not have any worries. Things can be worded without the need to use profanity. Just think before you hit the submit button. JMHO. :thumbsup:
 
mcgrath5860 said:
So i stepped up to the plate but I also should have realized that one of the newly appointed moderators has an issue with this person and since I backed him guess who was the first to ding me about my post.

Michael,

Maybe I am misunderstanding what is quoted above but it kind of seems like you are implying it was me. Strange how not 12 hours earlier you stated this in the PM you sent to me:

02-01-2007, 02:11 PM
mcgrath5860 said:
Plus how many times can a poster be dinged? Dr. Owens already got me two hours before.
 
Michael, It is pretty simple really. Calling someone a name, whether disguised or not, is still the same. Everyone knows you can use the same word in two different context and one will be considered swearing and the other not, just as non-swear words can be used derogatorily. So it is not the word as much as it is the intent. You've got 494 points to go. :rolleyes:
 
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