Bad Guy Wendy Childs, Reptile Addictions

[spyder79]

I disagree. A person's reputation, past history and dealings, criminal history etc are all pertinent to whether someone (me, for example) would choose to do business with someone. Would you rather do business with a known criminal, or someone with a clean record? I would not choose, if I knew the information beforehand, to do business with a criminal, or someone with a history of involvement in groups/activities like white supremacy etc. I think that information is pertinent to this discussion, as it reflects on the history, character, reliability, ethics etc of the person in question.

Think what you will. The mods on this site have made it quite clear time and again that personal attacks of this nature are not going to be tolerated.

 

[Lucille]

Think what you will. The mods on this site have made it quite clear time and again that personal attacks of this nature are not going to be tolerated.

True, past history is not a personal attack and can be relevant to business decisions.
However, one can also factor into the decision the kind of strength of character it might take to walk away from previous bad dealings and make an effort to start anew. Of course, careful watch must be made on present dealings.

The whole point of the BOI is that we can each provide experiences and opinions and those reading can then make their decisions on whether to purchase from such a person.

 

[shadraak]

Think what you will. The mods on this site have made it quite clear time and again that personal attacks of this nature are not going to be tolerated.

agree, personal attacks are against the tos as well...if you dont like someone for what they have done , dont do business with them, but if you haven't done business with them or have had no problems doesn't make a difference.. ie... i've had nothing but good dealings with wendy since 06 and will gladly be making more purchases thru her sometime soon as soon as some of my juv's start growing out...

personal attacks are just plain immature, serious highschool crap, if you have a problem with someone, that's between you and them, if you have a problem with their reptile business or anything reptile related that's what's to be posted here.

 

[BernardBC]

B.O.I. board of inquries.. IMO someones past is important to know when doing business with them.. Now her past that was posted was not reptile related.. But does show she has a criminal record for fraud and forgery. That in its self can be considered business related. I dont think the post was made to attack anyone it was to share information others may have not been aware of.. It is posted on the internet for all to see it isnt anyones opinion. So i do feel it is considered public knowledge and in a business industry it should be addressed. But this is just my opinion and you know what they say everyone has and is entitled to one.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Think what you will. The mods on this site have made it quite clear time and again that personal attacks of this nature are not going to be tolerated.

I disagree. While I would probably lend more weight to recent business activity when forming an opinion, a person's past criminal history, in regards to business practices especially, would definitely color any decision I would make to do business with them.

That said, I do agree that Wendy's previous career choice has absolutely nothing to do with any BOI thread and and bringing it up should definitely be considered a personal attack.

 

[shadraak]

i just hate that everytime somethign comes up with wendy people have to chime into that information it's been drug out and battered around so many times tired of people bringing it all up honestly, if it's not about her business or dealing with the business it shouldn't be subject here.

 

[LauraB]

While I would probably lend more weight to recent business activity when forming an opinion, a person's past criminal history, in regards to business practices especially, would definitely color any decision I would make to do business with them.
That said, I do agree that Wendy's previous career choice has absolutely nothing to do with any BOI thread and and bringing it up should definitely be considered a personal attack.

Those links Pav "dug up" have been posted time and time again in Wendy threads here ... they add nothing new to any new herp related issue.
And uh ... what was that, "I'm not allowed here" stuff, anyway?

 

[Clay Davenport]

Just as Laura said, all this has been covered and recovered here in the past.
Despite the fact Pav decided to dredge it up once again as if it's new information, I see no need to continue beating the dead horse and add a dozen more pages to this thread discussing it.

 

[BernardBC]

I agree Clay 27 pages is enough. I had never read any of this new information til yesterday and I had a friend considering purchasing a animal from her and thats how it was found we were doing research on the seller..

 

[PAVLOVK1025]

Last post only cause everyone likes to talk and not listen. I did not link her previous career, I only posted her criminal history and past business dealings.

Im glad you trust someone that has a long history of lying/deceiving folks out of their money and IDs. Click the links.

Thanks all who reported my posts. If you actually read anything you'd see that it wasnt a personal attack and thats why Im still kicking.

This information was relevant to the thread because not everybody reads the old threads, through all hundreds of pages. But thanks for the opinions.

 

[Southern Wolf]

I took the time to read those links... Pav is correct. Those are not dealing with her old career... just her troubles with the law.

I might could see one minor run in as a child.... but Id have to say that her past (as reported in those links) are relevent to any business dealings. There were multiple run in's and arrests according to those links.

Maybe Wendy has turned her life around... but in her past there was a slight loss of integrity and ethics, and that is relevent to any business deal.

 

[hhmoore]

<removes moderator hat>
Without a bunch of backseat moderators, this thread would be how many posts shorter?

 

[Rich Frye]

I have no dog in this fight , other than the fact I hate those who don't know darts, but try to keep, misrepresent and sell them.

A few facts. IF you got these frogs from an import from 3-3-5 years ago, and IF you remain in belief that these frogs are true Blue Jeans Pumilio from Costa Rica (all BJs come from Costa Rica) then you had better call up F+W and turn them over because they are part of a 100% illegal import.

Also, pums don't transport tads 100 feet in the sky.

I work with legal BJs, both blue and black, and what you have are almost 100% certainly not BJs.
I don't know you, but we don't need people like you in the hobby, or business.

Rich Frye

fryebrothersfrogs.com

I will give a little history on those frogs for all interested.

A wholesaler in Florida brought in (import) frogs 3- 3.5 years ago. I traded $800 worth of dragons for 8 frogs. Yes 8 whole frogs. Imports. Out of those 8 frogs I still have 6. 2 died.

They had never breed for me until I was watching the Life show. I saw the pumillo dart frog carry her tads 100 feet up a tree one at a time to stick them in barmiliads (sp- a plant). And that is how they thrived.

I replanted their terrarium with tons of Bramiliads, and walla - one day I saw baby frogs in there. From that point on this is how I let them breed. I do not take eggs or tads out. I let them morph in the terrarium.

These are the first 2 of their kind that I have sold. These 2 had lesser pattern and lesser appeal for me to keep. As you saw from the links I posted, some are not as attractive as others.

I dont have tons of them, but I do get them frequently. When I do and I choose to sell them, I will sell them for $100 each. They are my frogs and I can do that. I'm not crashing the market. I am listing them at a fair value , considering I didnt have to do anything to raise these frogs.

In the mean time, I am still on the hunt for some unrelated bloodlines.........

I have work to do, enough said really. Have a nice day.

 

[Rich Frye]

Shall I call F+W about your 2006-2007 illegal BJ import from Costa Rica? Or are you going to change your story?
Seems as if the 'feedback' sections, sites, ect. are working just fine.
You are either a crook, ignorant a liar or a combo.

Rich Frye

I left feedback for the 2nd buyer, as well as a good guy thread. Both buyers were disclosed by me. Something I will never do again. She just ruined the feedback process for all my customers from here out by abusing its intention.

I am not flat out lieing about anything. I own Blue Jeans. I sold Blue Jean offspring. PROVE OTHERWISE.

It is a matter of an opinion based on a photo. The buyer has not complained otherwise.

CASE CLOSED.

 

[Rich Frye]

Oh, and if you are saying that the Florida importer imported them from EU, I'd love to see the paperwork. They all need CITES paperwork , all dendrobates.
I am not aware of any BJ imports from 3-3.5 years ago.
You know nothing of pums, it shows. As simple proof, Man Creeks go for about $100. Blue Jeans go for about $300 each. Depending on if you get them from a reputable dealer or not. You are an uniformed dealer who needs to move back to snakes.

 

[Jadenkisses]

Oh, and if you are saying that the Florida importer imported them from EU, I'd love to see the paperwork. They all need CITES paperwork , all dendrobates.
I am not aware of any BJ imports from 3-3.5 years ago.
You know nothing of pums, it shows. As simple proof, Man Creeks go for about $100. Blue Jeans go for about $300 each. Depending on if you get them from a reputable dealer or not. You are an uniformed dealer who needs to move back to snakes.

Thank you Rich!
THIS is the whole reason I couldn't just let it go when I saw those frogs being sold as blue jeans. Especially after the way Wendy reacted to me asking questions about them.
I understand a lot of people here don't know much about dart frogs, and could not see the significance of the situation. That's why I felt it nessisary to
inform others as to what was going on - not too many people would have caught this - and if I hadn't said anything about it, it would have likely gone un-noticed.
So even if the buyer is happy with their purchase, I still think Wendy seriously needs to explain herself.

 

[Rich Frye]

Welcome.
For those who don't know darts, what Wendy has done would be the same as attempting to sell a mutt as an AKC registered pure breed. One that later is used for breeding purposes.
Keep in mind I own darts which I would never sell for $1000 each.
If you are interested in darts, stay away from this lady.
She has no explaination, she is either ignorant and selling frogs she should not. Knows what she has, which are not BJs, and is selling frogs she should not. Or , she is a liar and is selling frogs she should not. Get the common thread here?

Rich Frye

Thank you Rich!
THIS is the whole reason I couldn't just let it go when I saw those frogs being sold as blue jeans. Especially after the way Wendy reacted to me asking questions about them.
I understand a lot of people here don't know much about dart frogs, and could not see the significance of the situation. That's why I felt it nessisary to
inform others as to what was going on - not too many people would have caught this - and if I hadn't said anything about it, it would have likely gone un-noticed.
So even if the buyer is happy with their purchase, I still think Wendy seriously needs to explain herself.

 

[Robin Banks]

Thanks Rich, maybe people will listen to you instead of going off on irrelevant tangents about her previous occupation.

 

[Rich Frye]

Thanks Rich, maybe people will listen to you instead of going off on irrelevant tangents about her previous occupation.

Thank you. If anyone has any questions about pums, I happen to know a bit about them. Wendy does not, at all.

 

[zzzdanz]

Thank you. If anyone has any questions about pums, I happen to know a bit about them. Wendy does not, at all.

That's an understatement Doc...I'm not a frog guy and I know of you.