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Wendy Griffin- HORRIBLE WOMAN!
- Thread starter Manhattan Herps
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dragonflyreptiles
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Bringerofdoom said:
Im not sure what you mean, yes the dragon I sent to you was about 8 months old and should have gotten wider and fatter with age, sadly he was unable to meet his future size due to his new owner letting him get chilled so much
Bringerofdoom
New member
ok now wendy, quit being childish. you dont need to keep dragging me back into this. this time you attacked my dragon so ill come back.
my dragon is female, which is bad when yours is male 3 months older. females are suposed to be a little smaller than males.
for you to still compare the 2 is wrong. yours should be alot bigger than mine. i have seen neglected beardies before, to me thats neglect on your end.
any healthy reptile will survive atleast 1 week without food. there is no way improper husbandry will wipeout a beardie in 4 days. tokay seems to know beardies based upon the 3 answers he provided.
i also dont care about your feedback, you seem to have taken advantage of him. your first words was to blame him for being a minor.
by the way i love how fauna wont let you edit these mistakes
also if you examine the picture of the spoon use this to help you size it scince you cant tell what size a spoon would be.
A. the spoon head to the beardies head.
B. The knife marks on the edge of the countertop
C. The width of the handle to the tail
D. The Stain in between the beardie and the spoon,
All of this suggest the spoon is the size he says it is. i would seriously wonder who would eat with a teaspoon or table spoon with a 8 inch handle, get real. this is my last post, as im not trying to turn this into a needless flame war. i feel people should be very aware of this.
my dragon is female, which is bad when yours is male 3 months older. females are suposed to be a little smaller than males.
for you to still compare the 2 is wrong. yours should be alot bigger than mine. i have seen neglected beardies before, to me thats neglect on your end.
any healthy reptile will survive atleast 1 week without food. there is no way improper husbandry will wipeout a beardie in 4 days. tokay seems to know beardies based upon the 3 answers he provided.
i also dont care about your feedback, you seem to have taken advantage of him. your first words was to blame him for being a minor.
by the way i love how fauna wont let you edit these mistakes
which one of those is it HMMMMM.....
also if you examine the picture of the spoon use this to help you size it scince you cant tell what size a spoon would be.
A. the spoon head to the beardies head.
B. The knife marks on the edge of the countertop
C. The width of the handle to the tail
D. The Stain in between the beardie and the spoon,
All of this suggest the spoon is the size he says it is. i would seriously wonder who would eat with a teaspoon or table spoon with a 8 inch handle, get real. this is my last post, as im not trying to turn this into a needless flame war. i feel people should be very aware of this.
Xelda
sweet & sour
codyremmyloo said:
Wendy, I actually had a little bit of respect for you based on your other posts on the BOI, but your insults just threw all that out the window. Excuse me if I mistook what I read, but that's why I asked you to clarify your shipping methods for me in the first place.
By the way, you did deny that the dead beardie in the picture was not yours:
codyremmyloo said:
And you did claim that he starved to death:
codyremmyloo said:
I didn't come here to take sides. Yes, I did have a bit of bias after seeing those pictures. I'm only human. However, I was willing to let you explain yourself--hence the topics I asked you to address. So far, Dan has been able to answer everyone's questions, but you haven't. You just try to divert attention to lesser issues. Don't deride me for misinterpreting posts when there's evidence that you do too (e.g. mistaking Dan's description of his own beardie as a description of your beardie you sent him). To be honest, none of your replies add up, and you still haven't answered any relevant questions. Good luck fighting this one your own. You won't be garnering any support from me.
robsmomma
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Wendy Collins
Regarding Wendy Collins
With regards to Wendy Collins --- first of all I am new to this group but have done business with Wendy for 4 years. I have never had a bad transaction with her - ONLY GREAT ONES!!!
She would NOT have sent out a dragon or any animal that was in poor condition. She is just not that type of person.
I am NOT saying here that the other person is at fault but as a fellow animal lover --- I personally would NOT have "waited" if any animal of mine was doing poorly especially if I just purchased it. That in my opinion is just not good karma. You know do undo other what you would have done to you????
I think knowing Wendy and her business ethics since we have been doing business together (her selling to me naturally) -- I think that she sent a perfect healthy animal and the purchaser had an animal in poor condition (before receiving the one Wendy sold him) and wants something for nothing.
That is just my 2 cents. I think that over 4 years in doing business with Wendy should count for something here.
She is a good person and would never try to scam anyone!
Stacy
Regarding Wendy Collins
With regards to Wendy Collins --- first of all I am new to this group but have done business with Wendy for 4 years. I have never had a bad transaction with her - ONLY GREAT ONES!!!
She would NOT have sent out a dragon or any animal that was in poor condition. She is just not that type of person.
I am NOT saying here that the other person is at fault but as a fellow animal lover --- I personally would NOT have "waited" if any animal of mine was doing poorly especially if I just purchased it. That in my opinion is just not good karma. You know do undo other what you would have done to you????
I think knowing Wendy and her business ethics since we have been doing business together (her selling to me naturally) -- I think that she sent a perfect healthy animal and the purchaser had an animal in poor condition (before receiving the one Wendy sold him) and wants something for nothing.
That is just my 2 cents. I think that over 4 years in doing business with Wendy should count for something here.
She is a good person and would never try to scam anyone!
Stacy
Double "D" Reptiles
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Re: I am mistaken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmm, having raised and bred dragons over the course of the past 6 years now and suffered a total loss of a colony along the way to disease (our own VERY costly error) I've got to finally speak up.
1. I use spoons exactly like that (ok, so mine are black instead of white) and 6-1/2" is almost generous in size.
2. The pic of the deceased beardie shows an animal that was emaciated beyond redemption. I'd surmise totally dehydrated and starved, possibly something wrong for an extended period of time.
3. A dragon 8-9 months old, unless stunted growth from malnutrition or disease or possibly the bottom end of the gene pool, should be at least 12 inches long and weigh a good 200 grams.
4. a judgement on size like the one quoted above just reminds me of the "dirty joke" about why women can't judge distance.
5. That dragon should never have been sent to anyone at any time, unless perhaps it had regained proper weight and size and been cleared by a vet as healthy.
Bad, bad Wendy. It seems that you've admitted that this is indeed the correct dragon in more than one post. You should be ashamed of yourself. That dragon had no chance of survival. Shame on you.
David Jobes
codyremmyloo said:
Hmmm, having raised and bred dragons over the course of the past 6 years now and suffered a total loss of a colony along the way to disease (our own VERY costly error) I've got to finally speak up.
1. I use spoons exactly like that (ok, so mine are black instead of white) and 6-1/2" is almost generous in size.
2. The pic of the deceased beardie shows an animal that was emaciated beyond redemption. I'd surmise totally dehydrated and starved, possibly something wrong for an extended period of time.
3. A dragon 8-9 months old, unless stunted growth from malnutrition or disease or possibly the bottom end of the gene pool, should be at least 12 inches long and weigh a good 200 grams.
4. a judgement on size like the one quoted above just reminds me of the "dirty joke" about why women can't judge distance.
5. That dragon should never have been sent to anyone at any time, unless perhaps it had regained proper weight and size and been cleared by a vet as healthy.
Bad, bad Wendy. It seems that you've admitted that this is indeed the correct dragon in more than one post. You should be ashamed of yourself. That dragon had no chance of survival. Shame on you.
David Jobes
John Albrecht
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Wendy,
You keep referring to Dan as a child but you are the one acting childish not him.
You consistently refer to that beardie you sent as "happy" but anybody else would have to believe it was closer to "miserable" even when looking at the live picture. People have pet anoles that have more weight on them then your beardies
You have admitted that you have had numerous deals go bad like this in spite of the list of good deals that you provided.
Wendy you need to get your act together and admit that you messed up.
John Albrecht
You keep referring to Dan as a child but you are the one acting childish not him.
You consistently refer to that beardie you sent as "happy" but anybody else would have to believe it was closer to "miserable" even when looking at the live picture. People have pet anoles that have more weight on them then your beardies
You have admitted that you have had numerous deals go bad like this in spite of the list of good deals that you provided.
Wendy you need to get your act together and admit that you messed up.
John Albrecht
hellschild
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Yes I would also recommend getting pictures and maybe even have a herp vet do a necropsy for you.
And as far as the shipping causing the coccidia levels to rise from stress, not possible.
I am a Registered Vet Tech and have worked with reptiles for years. Single celled parasites don't just multiply when an animal is stressed. If the animal was emaciated and dehydrated and totally malnurished then shipping could push him over the edge definatley.
A reptile would have to be very ill to die in just a matter of 3 days. Most Beardies can go 3 days without and food and water and technically be fine.
Shannon
And as far as the shipping causing the coccidia levels to rise from stress, not possible.
I am a Registered Vet Tech and have worked with reptiles for years. Single celled parasites don't just multiply when an animal is stressed. If the animal was emaciated and dehydrated and totally malnurished then shipping could push him over the edge definatley.
A reptile would have to be very ill to die in just a matter of 3 days. Most Beardies can go 3 days without and food and water and technically be fine.
Shannon
dragonflyreptiles
New member
Once again!
I haev answered teh size question several times, he as 14" ( and would have been longer since he had a tail nip which was a few inches)
Bringerofdoom said:
I haev answered teh size question several times, he as 14" ( and would have been longer since he had a tail nip which was a few inches)
Jeez...
Wendy,
are you a bit dense?
Sorry but that spoon is NOT 8 inches, I would like to see a wonderspoon like that, would make it kind of hard to use, though.
Even "if" this special spoon was 8 inches, there is NO WAY that dragon next to it was another 6 inch longer then the spoon, maybe 3 and that's "stretching" it.
Your picture of the "live" dragon shows a very, very bad looking dragon. Skinny and unhealthy to the point, where he doesn't even resemble a "Bearded Dragon". I mean "hello"????
And once again, I'm typing s-l-o-w-l-y for you.
A bearded dragon doesn't waste away and die from not eating for 4 days!!!
Got it?
That dragon was in horrible shape BEFORE you shipped him.
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!! for sending out an animal like that and even BIGGER SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!! for your answers on here, for your skirting around the questions, for your obvoius lies.
Good lord, what is it with people!!!!!!!
<shaking head>>
Wendy,
are you a bit dense?
Sorry but that spoon is NOT 8 inches, I would like to see a wonderspoon like that, would make it kind of hard to use, though.
Even "if" this special spoon was 8 inches, there is NO WAY that dragon next to it was another 6 inch longer then the spoon, maybe 3 and that's "stretching" it.
Your picture of the "live" dragon shows a very, very bad looking dragon. Skinny and unhealthy to the point, where he doesn't even resemble a "Bearded Dragon". I mean "hello"????
And once again, I'm typing s-l-o-w-l-y for you.
A bearded dragon doesn't waste away and die from not eating for 4 days!!!
Got it?
That dragon was in horrible shape BEFORE you shipped him.
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!! for sending out an animal like that and even BIGGER SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!! for your answers on here, for your skirting around the questions, for your obvoius lies.
Good lord, what is it with people!!!!!!!
<shaking head>>
dragonflyreptiles
New member
John Albrecht said:
I referred to him as a child becuase he illegally received my reptile, he is not 18 and had I known that I would never have shipped my dragon to him.
This was a bad deal for me Dan not sending him back if he was unhappy etc, he even told me a sob story about receiving leos that died as well. How many reptiles have to die in his care?
To me it looks like he has had the bad deals, letting animals die very fast in his possession!
I DID MESS UP, I sent a nice healthy animal to minor!
Golden Gate Geckos
Mean Old Gecko Lady
hmmm...
It may not be your spoon, but you have admitted that the dragon was missing about 2" of the end of it's tail, and the photo that was posted of the beardie with the spoon is clearly missing the end of it's tail!
Lynn
Life is good
Wendy
You keep dancing ...Your digging a deeper hole. You need to tell the truth. That way the story will be the same. No need to change the truth. I know it takes a dragon a long time to get in that condition. That did not happen in four days.. That dragon was sick for a long time. SHAME ON YOU. I do not care if he is a underage or not.. You should of NEVER sent a dragon in that condition. I sure hope you did not cause problems for his other reptiles....
You keep dancing ...Your digging a deeper hole. You need to tell the truth. That way the story will be the same. No need to change the truth. I know it takes a dragon a long time to get in that condition. That did not happen in four days.. That dragon was sick for a long time. SHAME ON YOU. I do not care if he is a underage or not.. You should of NEVER sent a dragon in that condition. I sure hope you did not cause problems for his other reptiles....
Kakadu
New member
Typing slowly for her, hehe. Thats too funny.
This is my last post here. I don't know why I am bothering (because I though typing slowly was a very funny concept and as long as I am posting what the he**)
The animal you have been posting pictures of is VERY small and VERY unhealthy looking. Let pretend that you never even sold this dragon to Dan. The fact htat you were willing to sell and ship an animal in the condition of the dragon in your pictures is unforgiveable.
If you continue to ignore this, then please stop bothering to post. Just blaming Dan, and not taking any responsibility for the poor animal is not going to go over well with anyone. We all look at the pictures you posted and cringe. That animal needed help.
This is my last post here. I don't know why I am bothering (because I though typing slowly was a very funny concept and as long as I am posting what the he**)
The animal you have been posting pictures of is VERY small and VERY unhealthy looking. Let pretend that you never even sold this dragon to Dan. The fact htat you were willing to sell and ship an animal in the condition of the dragon in your pictures is unforgiveable.
If you continue to ignore this, then please stop bothering to post. Just blaming Dan, and not taking any responsibility for the poor animal is not going to go over well with anyone. We all look at the pictures you posted and cringe. That animal needed help.
Lynn
Life is good
Kakadu said:
You are so right. it is people like her that give Good and Caring Reptile Breeders a bad name..
ms_terese
Irrelevant User
I'm just curious about this part. How was the receipt of the dragon illegal?
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Wendy that bearded looks terrible ..
i have read all the posts and seen the pictures
and i will say this ,i have raised beardeds in the past and that picture of yours wendy was quite disturbing ..
Wendy that animal wasnt as healthy as your claiming ,but yet you shipped it out anyways .. but i may be wrong im not sure if anyone else has really looked at them and if im wrong i will say sorry to Dan now
(im not attacking you Dan )
but it looks like wendys pic and dans pic arent of the same dragon to me ,
Wendys dragon has a very dark head and Dans pic the dragon has a very light colored head with a dark body ...
now im not sure if or what kinda color changes can happen when the animal dies or is frozen (since i dont kill animals myself ) .. but IMO i dont think those are the same dragons .. so please if im wrong about it someone with more expeirence then me with dragons please fill me in (and im not talking about wendy or dan ) ...like i said Dan if im wrong sorry but im just stating what i was looking at ...
Wendy that bearded looks terrible ..
i have read all the posts and seen the pictures
and i will say this ,i have raised beardeds in the past and that picture of yours wendy was quite disturbing ..
Wendy that animal wasnt as healthy as your claiming ,but yet you shipped it out anyways .. but i may be wrong im not sure if anyone else has really looked at them and if im wrong i will say sorry to Dan now
(im not attacking you Dan )
but it looks like wendys pic and dans pic arent of the same dragon to me ,
Wendys dragon has a very dark head and Dans pic the dragon has a very light colored head with a dark body ...
now im not sure if or what kinda color changes can happen when the animal dies or is frozen (since i dont kill animals myself ) .. but IMO i dont think those are the same dragons .. so please if im wrong about it someone with more expeirence then me with dragons please fill me in (and im not talking about wendy or dan ) ...like i said Dan if im wrong sorry but im just stating what i was looking at ...
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ok i will post this now before
anyone takes my post out of context
i was curious to the dragons being different and its been pointed out to me that the dragons are in fact the same so i will say this now
Dan it wasnt an attack againt you was just an observation but i was shown evidence to look at showing me my answer
so i will apologogize to you now Dan for saying the pics were possibly of different animals when they are in fact of the same animal
Sorry Dan
no hardfeelings just making sure all was right about the pictures ...
anyone takes my post out of context
i was curious to the dragons being different and its been pointed out to me that the dragons are in fact the same so i will say this now
Dan it wasnt an attack againt you was just an observation but i was shown evidence to look at showing me my answer
so i will apologogize to you now Dan for saying the pics were possibly of different animals when they are in fact of the same animal
Sorry Dan
no hardfeelings just making sure all was right about the pictures ...
dragonflyreptiles
New member
Re: hmmm...
If you look closely at the pics, the dragon I sent to him did not have a yellow head or arms, and his tail was longer than his body even nipped. It was pointed out to me in emails that the head of the dragon Dan took a pic of has a yellow head and arms as well as the tail is shorter than the body.
Maybe its just thee camera on the coloring but the tail is much shorter in his photos.
My photos shows the tail is longer than the body, and doesn't even have the complete tail in the photo, Dans pics sow a tail that is about 2/3 of the dragons body.
I have those exact same spoons, mine are 8", my 2 year olds baby spoons are 6 and 6.5"
Golden Gate Geckos said:
If you look closely at the pics, the dragon I sent to him did not have a yellow head or arms, and his tail was longer than his body even nipped. It was pointed out to me in emails that the head of the dragon Dan took a pic of has a yellow head and arms as well as the tail is shorter than the body.
Maybe its just thee camera on the coloring but the tail is much shorter in his photos.
My photos shows the tail is longer than the body, and doesn't even have the complete tail in the photo, Dans pics sow a tail that is about 2/3 of the dragons body.
I have those exact same spoons, mine are 8", my 2 year olds baby spoons are 6 and 6.5"