Who's here and what do you keep?

[Mike Greathouse]

I have tried several times to get the discussion forums rolling by offering sponsorships and what not, and except for the leopard gecko forum, they are all just way under used. As such, this may very well be my last effort to get those forums going. If this fails, I will likely just terminate all underused discussion forums and be done with it.

I really enjoy this forum and in the interest of preserving it, I think it might be prudent for the regular visitors here to get together and make every effort to take it to the next level.

I think the first step in doing this would be to find out who is here and what boas we keep.

I'll start it off:

I've been keeping boas for about 10 years now. Although I do work with other species as well, it has always been the boas that fascinate me. Although my residents vary from year to year, here is the primary list:

The locality kids:

Argentines
Bolivian Amarali
Corn Island Boas
Hog Island Boas
Hondurans
Western Venezuelan Boas

The Common and Morph kids:

Albino Boas (VPI Bloodline)
Anerythristic Boas (Including Striped Anerythristics)
Blacktails (My own bloodline)
Common Boas - Colombians (numerous color and pattern morphs)
Hypos

and Pip (my project for a true dwarf Colombian Boa)

Ok - what do the rest of you have?

Thanks,

 

[hhmoore]

Though I have staked my claim in the Python forum, I enjoy this one as well.
I keep dumerils boas, Hog Island boas, albino and hypomelanistic BCI.
Staying in the Boa family, but stepping out of the Boa genus, I also keep ATBs, ETBs, and yellow anacondas.

(I put the dumeril's in the first group, because I have recently seen them listed as Boa dumerili vs the previous Acrantophis dumerili)

 

[reptilebreeder]

(I put the dumeril's in the first group, because I have recently seen them listed as Boa dumerili vs the previous Acrantophis dumerili)

Did you see any kind of a time line on the listing? cause I thought it was the other way around.

 

[hhmoore]

you know, I thought it was weird, they've been Acrantophis for as long as I've dealt with them in any capacity. I'll have to go back and check, but I think one of the places I saw it was the CITES site. (I'll get back to you)

 

[hhmoore]

It wasn't CITES, but this site shows Acrantophis dumerili (invalid) and Boa dumerili (valid), and is dated 1999.
http://www.itis.usda.gov:8080/servl...ication&search_id=pub_id&search_id_value=1912
also, the University of Michigan Museum of Zoology site (citation 2006)
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/classification/Boa_dumerili.html

 

[reptilebreeder]

It wasn't CITES, but this site shows Acrantophis dumerili (invalid) and Boa dumerili (valid), and is dated 1999.
http://www.itis.usda.gov:8080/servl...ication&search_id=pub_id&search_id_value=1912
also, the University of Michigan Museum of Zoology site (citation 2006)
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/classification/Boa_dumerili.html

Wow, that's interesting. That site not only states that Boa is valid for Dumeril's, but also the tree boa as Boa madagascariensis . That first site has Jonathan A. Campbell listed, and I think he is on the official governing body (?) that lists reptiles. I had always thought it was Boa that was defunct, and Acrantophis as "current". Thing is, according to that site this was determined in 44' as in 1844! I mean I know I have a hard time keeping up with all the changes in taxonomy, especially the last 10 years or so, but 150 years! Man am I behind. LOL

 

[hhmoore]

yeah - I noticed those dates as well. Might as well face it...us common folk will never be in the know.

 

[hhmoore]

I have noticed that on many published stock/pricelists, they are showing up as both Boa and Acrantophis (not on the same list of course). Boa is easier to spell, so maybe I should stick with that one until we know for sure, lol.

 

[Griz]

My collection consists of:

0.1 Snow
1.2 proven dwarf hypo's (5 years of age and only at 4 foot)
0.1 dwarf normal (4 years of age and at 3 foot)
1.0 Argentine 66% t positive
0.1 full body stripe boa (genetic)
1.0 9 foot normal
0.1 40lb gravid female (darn thing was due yesterday with my sunglows!!)
1.1 genetic stripe normals
0.1 extreme peach pastel normal (nasty little bugger too!)
0.1 Suriname, now blind in both eyes but still eating
0.1 proven dwarf albino (5 years of age and only 4 foot)
1.0 dh sunglow male (sire of my sunglow litter)
1.1 dumerils
1.0 laddertail (absolutely hands down the best laddertail I have seen)
0.1 normal
1.0 proven het ghost ball python (still not sure why I own this guy!)

Griz

 

[Art Klass]

My boas are as follows:

1.1 dh sunglow
0.1 het albino
0.1 Nic (project with bright tangerine patches)
1.1 Guyanas
1.1 Surinames
3.4 normal pastels
1.0 striped normal
2.5 normal pastel yearlings

I currently have two gravid normals this season. Next season much of what I have will be able to breed. I'm so ready!

 

[Griz]

My boas are as follows:

1.1 dh sunglow
0.1 het albino
0.1 Nic (project with bright tangerine patches)
1.1 Guyanas
1.1 Surinames
3.4 normal pastels
1.0 striped normal
2.5 normal pastel yearlings

I currently have two gravid normals this season. Next season much of what I have will be able to breed. I'm so ready!

Art, the next time I hit Bass Pro I will shoot you an email to meet up. I am in Springfield several times a year as we have a condo at the Ozarks and I have clients in Joplin.

Griz

 

[Art Klass]

Art, the next time I hit Bass Pro I will shoot you an email to meet up. I am in Springfield several times a year as we have a condo at the Ozarks and I have clients in Joplin.

You bet Griz. I live 10 minutes from Bass Pro. Drop me a line when you know that you are coming and we can grab something to eat. Art

 

[JCCS]

Localities:

Corn Islands
Caulker Cays
Nicaraguans
Costa Ricans
Hog Islands

Morphs:

Hypos of assorted types
Stripe line Albino
Hets for sharp and Kahl strain albino.
Pastels
Double het for albino and square tail and poss het stripe.
Ghost
het for Ivory anery

 

[Laura Fopiano]

Okay I'll play

Some of you may or may not know, that I suffered a major tragedy last year and destroyed my complete collection of boas...the list of the deceased
0.1 7 year old het ghost..proven
0.1 6 year old normal that thru amazing babies..proven twice
0.1 9 year old Argie...slugged out 2 seasons in a row
0.1 5 year old Rich Isle anery (first to undergo live liver biopsy)
0.1 4 year old weirdo looking jungle full stripped tail (damn I was looking forward to her litter that would have been born in 2 months)
0.1 4 year old extreme pastel/red beauty (would have also delivered this year)
0.1 3 year old aberrant jungelish reversed stripped tail
0.1 2 year old ladder tail
0.1 2 year old reversed stripped tail
0.1 2 year old pastel (my first hold back)
0.1 2 year old hypo het anery (second litter holdback)
0.1 2 year old Albino 100% het anery
0.1 2 year old anery ghost sibling (produced by Dayle Speckin)

1.0 5 year old screaming pastel proven
1.0 5 year old hypo proven twice
1.0 anery (necropsied after asymptomatic death)
1.0 2 year old albino 100% het anery
1.0 2 year old albino 66% het anery
1.0 2 year old ghost (holdback with black and pink tongue)
1.0 2 year old hypo het anery sib to ghost
1.0 2 year old screaming salmon (produced by Dayle Speckin)
4 unsexed hypo yearlings...........

I'm sure you all want to know why I destroyed my whole collection?? As a keeper and breeder, it was my responsibility to uphold the integrity of boa breeders, possibly lead by example the true nature of IBD and hopefully prevent another from going through what I did...........

You see gentlemen, I worked hard, practiced all quarantine procedures, researched and learned every possible bit of information available.......and my demise...an insect the size of a grain of salt. Did they come from feeder rodents, on my clothing from the many shows and educational event's that attended?? I will never know for sure, what I do know is that this issue is my "soap box" in the reptile world!!

And in case your wondering, all caging was destroyed!

It took me a while to even entertain keeping boids again and I didn't come to my decision lightly, so yes, I am starting over! Not only with my boas, but my life...I was asked for a divorce the day after the NARBC show in Anaheim.

I only buy from a very select few and after months of recovering emotionally from my events, my collection is small but cool none the less.

0.1 3 year old Sears line hog
1.1 yearling F1 hogg's from 27 year old original Tom Crutchfield wild caught imports
1.1 2 year old longicauda
1.1 yearling super light and no freckled pastel BCI
1.1 yearling fire belly Hondurans

 

[Mike Greathouse]

Laura,
I'm so sorry - I had no idea.
Sorry for your loss. It had to be very difficult for you to put down such a group. You are to be commended for your actions. I respect your decision.

 

[Laura Fopiano]

Laura,
I'm so sorry - I had no idea.
Sorry for your loss. It had to be very difficult for you to put down such a group. You are to be commended for your actions. I respect your decision.

Thanx Mike.......I had a long discusion with my vet Dr. Tom Greek on the subject, and it's much more wide spread than anyone realizes.....hence my soap box!!

 

[BryonsBoas]

Ok , heres my list

1.0 100% het Albino ( kahl )
1.0 Gee line Hypo
1.0 DH Ghost
1.0 Partial Laddertail
1.0 Orange CA
1.0 Normal
0.1 Col / Suri cross Laddertail
0.1 HUGE normal girl
2.2 Poss het Blood
0.1 Col Laddertail
1.0 Ronne Pastel 100% het Albino ( kahl )
1.0 Normal
0.2 Normals
0.1 100% het Anery

Thats it off the top of my head. Picking up a female kahl albino in June / July and waiting on Mike to whip out some more blacktails.

 

[Vinny D]

my BCC's

right now i only keep locality BCC's i have
1.0 Pokigron, Suriname local (produced by gus at rio bravo reptiles)
0.1 Marajo island Guyana
0.1 Belknap suriname(produced by barry miller)

im not a big fan of designer BCI. i think the most beautiful boa is one that is naturaly pretty, no cross breedings or anything like that. i have many other snakes becides my trio of BCC, but their is no need to post them on here.here are pictures of my 2 females. the Belknap is on the newspapper, the pic was taken from the gut u got her from. i dont think newspapper is a good ("substrate") i will have pictures of my male soon..

 

[Vinny D]

my female BCC's

sorry for some reason it wont let me post the same pictures i have already posted. i will try again later, or you can look up my previous posts and can find them their. the pokigron suri im getting is true eye candy. i cant wait to get his pic on here.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Man, I feel so puny now. HA HA HA I have a mere 2 Boas...............For now that is. 1.0 Salmon Hypo, het for coral albino, (My future project male). He is now going on 10 months, 32 in. and 302 Gr this weekend. And 0.1 Albino, an F3 from Kahl. I have had her for 7 years now. She is a big girl. (really big right now ) And next month she should be having a litter of albinos from a Coral dad from Ihle. So I will hold back a couple of those for Myself.

Future goals................
0.1 Col. Anery het albino
0.1 Col. Arab het albino
1.0 Col. Motley (they are colombian right? I'll have to make sure first.)
1.0 Col. Striped (recessive type)

Use your imagination as to what I will be making with these. So many posibilities. LOL I do have a thing for the BCI Morphs. Particularly the albino forms. One day we will have a truly Leucistic Boa. I can't wait!

Rick