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Why do people....... More.....

Austin Stevens!.....makes me want to :>Puke<:

I wonder if the general public believes all that fake set-up crap?

Anyway I thought I'd change the subject!....for the THIRD TIME!!!
 
Anyway I thought I'd change the subject!....for the THIRD TIME!!!
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Lol well discussing evolution seemed more fun than taking pills and calling marcia early in the morning.
 
Mabye marcia.... I'll take some pills and call overton in the morning, REAL EARLY. Then i'll take some pills and call you. ok overton, read up on the "hyneeglow" because that will be our main subject. :raspberry :rofl:
 
VipVenom said:
All my point is, is that things change and if you breed leopard geckos you can see that everytime you selectivly breed them. All this is , is an accelerated natural "change".
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I agree with that. I mean there are people who say the leopard gecko body in captivity is different than their wild cousins. Most people believe its from intermixing the many different subspecies of leopard gecko. Heck any morph and other oddities can be a sign of evolution.

Also, a little known fact to alot of people. 2,500 years ago there roamed an american tiger. Other creatures roamed this land at that time that was scary (The giant sloth and the small face bear comes to mind). Heck some of the missing links in reptiles too roamed the land. Can anyone of you believe there was an arboreal alligator? somehow they evolved into the current aligators that we know of now. (kinda glad for that, imagine a aligator jumping from a tree....)

2,500 years ago was not that long ago compared to 200,000 years of human evolution. This would bring the time to 500 bc, which is not the "stone age" as fabled by alot of stuff. indians of the land hunted and feared these animals.

Reptiles, fish and birds are a good array of evolution too. The fish i was reffering to in my other post was a fish who has 4 fins that have bone in the fins and is related to the first fish to walk onto the shores. Lizards either evolved into snakes or vice versa. Look at monitor lizards and legless lizards. Certain legless lizards actually do have 4 legs, but they did not develop on the outside of the body, suggesting either them losing the legs because of the non-need of them or development of legs. Monitors, come form lands where boa's and pythons are normally found. Which to me explains there more snakelike look the have.

The flightless birds of new zealand and surrounding islands, are another fine example. Thousands of years ago they settled the lands, no other predatory mammals and animals existed there. The only thing that flourished the land was bugs and other things.These birds did not feel threatened no more and spent all their time walking the grounds free and picking at food. Now these same birds have lost the use of these wings. Which is why most are extinct or are nearing extinction now. (IE; the dodo bird)

The platypus is a sign of signifigant changes in evolution. Remember this also exist on a land of other unusual creatures and even marsupials, which only exist in austrailia. Which was pre-mammal, if i recall.

To me all these things suggest that evolution is not fiction, but fact.

Sorry for a another long post, like i said before i read all that i can about evolution and earlier animals.

Oh, and one more thing since my news just reminded me at the end of this post. They have recently found male fish, that carry eggs in ohio...... Mutation or evolution??? Really what is evolution anyways? its nothing, but a mere mutation....
 
This thread can not be contained by one topic. it is evolving into it's own being. pretty soon this thread will be taking pills and calling all of us early in the morning to talk about evolution and Austin Stephens.
 
The only way this thread would start talking about Austin Stevens is if we were all taking pills. But then again he is my hero. :throwup02
 
Yeah i kinda like that idea better. If a snake killed him, the snake would be killed, but a drug overdose....
 
Oh No! I guess your right.

Do you mean Austin Stevens "snake master" or is there another idiot everyone hates named Austin Stephens?
 
VipVenom said:
I think that both creation and evolution have their pros and cons. For you to say that things do not "evolve" or lets just say "change" is just ignorant. Animals divided by something as simple as a river or a canyon show a great deal of divesity over a period of time. There is scientific proof that things "change" when they are seperated by some geological barrier. Small animals tend to become large when stuck on an island (komodo dragon, galopagoes tortise, elephant bird). And large animals tend to become smaller (pygmy elephant, and that new pygmy "man" they have found). Things do change, humans now are much bigger than we were in only a few hundred years. Imagine what can change in a few million. All my point is, is that things change and if you breed leopard geckos you can see that everytime you selectivly breed them. All this is , is an accelerated natural "change".
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Where did I say things do not evolve. I said to accept the christian mythos of creation you have to believe that we were put on earth in our present form, unchanged from God's divine plan.

I'm discussing that specific belief system, to which you referenced in the post I replied to. I am not debating what you personally believe.
 
StinaUIUC said:
Why is that?......people can't come up with their own beliefs?... lol There are plenty of people who believed God created the first life and everything has evolved from there. People can believe whatever the heck they want.
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You're right, they can believe whatever they want. However people who believe in the bible as the word of god and accept it as concrete, literal facts believe roughly what I said.
 
I believe that aliens created this planet and they control us. They refer to the earth as our "enclosure" and they haven't been paying much attention to us lately because they've moved on to other, better-looking morphs.
 
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