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www.herphabitats.com AKA Richard Brooks/ Reptile Information Database

So, you admit that you hijacked a site from it's legal owner. You had no right to do that, no matter how it went down. Just because you felt unappreciated by your boss, didn't give you the right to use your position to sabotage his site. What you did was illegal and unethical.

Here's a link from the wayback machine to some pages from that site, around the time in question:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040413161850/http://www.reptileforums.com/

I didn't find anything relevant to this situation there, but I only spent a few minutes looking. What I did notice, though, was that I recognized several members there (at that time) are current members here. (hint, hint)

No matter how you try to slice it, it still smells like crap warmed over.
 
I applaud that you are willing and want to get more input and are disclosing your side og things. Often, only one side does get told. Thoguh it might seem like a hassle, answering questions asked here is a benefit to all. No ones opinion is made of stone.
 
The method of leaving that site wasn't the best by far. That can't be changed though I can relate to the issue of feeling appreciated for the work you felt you did for that site.

You can make the present and future run smoothly. To me this is a wait and see scenario and hopefully the future proves positive
 
jsrocket, feel free to shoot me your phone number, or if preferred, I will shoot you mine. You are talking based on what you have read, and not having spoken to the source. You are acting as if everything written or stated MUST be fact since it was posted on this site. lol

If your age is true, which I believe it is, don't you want to actually know what really transpired opposed to every bit of hearsay found on that thread?

Are you really going to take everything written as gospel and just have faith it all must be true?

There is absolutely no way, as many of you have to see, for this to rectify itself.

If anyone wants to continue bashing me, feel free. This is already old and tiring. The fact that grown men contribute to nonsense like this is unreal.

If you are interested in fact, feel free to shoot a PM with your #. I will call at the first oppurtunity I get which will be between 9am and 7pm EST.

Beyond the calls, I find no further need nor desire to contribute to this thread. It doesn't matter what I say or do, I have already been crucified. Bash on good people, bash on!
 
iguanairs said:
jsrocket, feel free to shoot me your phone number, or if preferred, I will shoot you mine. You are talking based on what you have read, and not having spoken to the source. You are acting as if everything written or stated MUST be fact since it was posted on this site. lol

If your age is true, which I believe it is, don't you want to actually know what really transpired opposed to every bit of hearsay found on that thread?

Are you really going to take everything written as gospel and just have faith it all must be true?

There is absolutely no way, as many of you have to see, for this to rectify itself.

If anyone wants to continue bashing me, feel free. This is already old and tiring. The fact that grown men contribute to nonsense like this is unreal.

If you are interested in fact, feel free to shoot a PM with your #. I will call at the first oppurtunity I get which will be between 9am and 7pm EST.

Beyond the calls, I find no further need nor desire to contribute to this thread. It doesn't matter what I say or do, I have already been crucified. Bash on good people, bash on!

Internet communication on these forums is based on the written word. Your caresheet forum is based on the written word. If you feel a need to change the venue, to get your point across, then maybe you should stick to writing code.
 
iguanairs said:
You are talking based on what you have read, and not having spoken to the source. You are acting as if everything written or stated MUST be fact since it was posted on this site. lol


I have already heard your words. What you spoke compared to what you type is different. I heard you say that it was H. F.'s site as a justification (to someone you know doesn't care for the person) for attempting to steal the member base of a forum you did not own. When in actual, by your own words here, H.F. didn't have anything to do with the site at the time. Even if he did, it wouldn't matter who owned the site. It's the principal.

Inconsistencies abound.

 
Yes Dennis, you heard it.

You said in your phone message Richard, the internet is nothing but a game.

So I take it what you done with my care sheet and RF was nothing at all, just more of the game playing?

Just do not forget it was my name you used, even though you act like it was everyone else's fault but yours. I will not be so fast to forget this, nor the way you have passed that blame. Everyone that has read this on your site, that in your own words has been up well over a month. What is their thoughts on Varnyard Herps, Inc. and all the wrong info they read during that period, no I doubt I will forget this.
 
04-27-2007, 03:56 PM

My Initial Post To My Staff:

Tegu Caresheet

It appears some drama has unfolded regarding the Tegu Caresheet we once housed in the RID. The author, Bobby (varnyard) is claiming that it is/was a massively inaccurate version of his caresheet.

I didn't edit that caresheet except to separate the pages and add the taxonomy like all the other caresheets. If information was added, it had to have been done while the thread was on HC. Did anyone add info to that caresheet?

It's crucial that if anyone is adding information, that information MUST be accurate. Just because it says it on some website doesn't make it fact. You need to do some serious research or already know for certain that the info is good.

We don't need the bad publicity and I don't like the drama.

<!-- Insert Some Staff Posting They Didn't Edit That Caresheet Here -->

This is the staff member who DID edit that caresheet responding to this thread:

The caresheet was orgianlly edited by myself with assistance from *$*$*$*. When I had questions regarding information I asked ******. The information was submitted to her before it was ever given back. The information was checked and rechecked as I still have all the working information and research that I will attach if needed. Which took me over 75 hours to obtain, review etc. The original that was submitted was confusing and I believe I even spoke to Rich about this before I even progressed at the care sheets at all. I believe the original did not go into specific need of each species, which are different.

It was my understanding, which HC wanted the information checked and rechecked as that is what I was hearing. At this time I am requesting that any other caresheet that I have worked on or made be removed as the same procedure has been done with each one.

I didn't lie to you Bobby. Lying is not something I tend to do. I didn't know your caresheet had that info.

I ommited the names because you don't need to have anyone else to bash. You can keep that focused on me.

The internet is a game. Look at this thread. Based off the information of others, I have been slammed every which way from Sunday. Not only am I guilty according to everyone, but there need be no trial.

Instead of any of you chatting with me, you know "man to man", you would just assume play "PC Warrior" and talk smack with a keyboard.

BTW, the term "GAME" in my voicemail Bobby is called an analogy.
 
iguanairs said:
04-27-2007, 03:56 PM

My Initial Post To My Staff:

Tegu Caresheet

It appears some drama has unfolded regarding the Tegu Caresheet we once housed in the RID. The author, Bobby (varnyard) is claiming that it is/was a massively inaccurate version of his caresheet.

I didn't edit that caresheet except to separate the pages and add the taxonomy like all the other caresheets. If information was added, it had to have been done while the thread was on HC. Did anyone add info to that caresheet?

It's crucial that if anyone is adding information, that information MUST be accurate. Just because it says it on some website doesn't make it fact. You need to do some serious research or already know for certain that the info is good.

We don't need the bad publicity and I don't like the drama.

<!-- Insert Some Staff Posting They Didn't Edit That Caresheet Here -->

This is the staff member who DID edit that caresheet responding to this thread:



I didn't lie to you Bobby. Lying is not something I tend to do. I didn't know your caresheet had that info.

I ommited the names because you don't need to have anyone else to bash. You can keep that focused on me.

The internet is a game. Look at this thread. Based off the information of others, I have been slammed every which way from Sunday. Not only am I guilty according to everyone, but there need be no trial.

Instead of any of you chatting with me, you know "man to man", you would just assume play "PC Warrior" and talk smack with a keyboard.

BTW, the term "GAME" in my voicemail Bobby is called an analogy.
Complete and utter BULLSNOT.

I put SEVENTY-FIVE HOURS into it? Come on.

So and so?

No names?

You are your site are REALLY lacking in any integrity at all.

First you lay it all off on one of TWO who post for you. Then one of those lays it off on yet ANOTHER unnamed nimrod and you, rich, have the gall to say I won't name names because I don't want you to bash them too?

You're an idiot. Your staff is obviously made up of idiots. How can you possibly think ANYONE would buy the line of crap you're selling?

Totally worthless.

And NOW, now that your crybaby mod has been caught passing his work off to someone else, he wants ALL the rest of the work he's done pulled to. No doubt because of its STELLAR quality.

Do yourself a favor rich, close the site and move on to something you know something about.

Turning on your friends maybe, edged weapons in the back perhaps, but DEFINATELY stay away from intellectual inforamtion and making it available via the web.
 
It would be wise to check with owners of each care sheet left on your site to make sure that it is an accurate representation of their work. Even if there was misinformation or incomplete you can’t edit then slap their name back on it.

You have stated several times if you knew bad information had been added, you wouldn't have included it.

You can't included anything else. Accurate or not and stick the original author's name back on it.

How many people now have read that Bobby wrote
Columbian or Golden Tegu might enjoy the following: cooked ground turkey,
?

Or any of the other changes.

Who knows how many potential customers read the sheets and decided Bobby doesn't know what hes talking about.

A reputable site with goals you state would reject a care sheet they felt was inaccurate. Not correct it with accurate or inaccurate (by mistake) information. No corrections can be made without the author's consent if their name is still on it.

You have opened yourself up to severe liability.
 
Wilomn said:
Complete and utter BULLSNOT.

I put SEVENTY-FIVE HOURS into it? Come on.

So and so?

No names?

You are your site are REALLY lacking in any integrity at all.

I didn't put 75 hours into it. I doubt she was referring to just that caresheet as well. We had a forum that had several in there that needed doing. She may be referring to her "overall" time between all of them.

First you lay it all off on one of TWO who post for you. Then one of those lays it off on yet ANOTHER unnamed nimrod and you, rich, have the gall to say I won't name names because I don't want you to bash them too?

I didn't "lay it off" on anyone. I simply stated the facts. You are seeing only what I allow you to see. The information I have posted is in a private forum and those users involved are, quite literally, none of your business. You knowing the name of the person who actually did the editing itself serves zero purpose. Didn't you read this thread? I am the one accountable. As such, feed your ignorance to me and pretend they don't exist.

The SECOND party you mentioned had nothing to do with the editing. in fact, that persons involvement was with grammar and then contacting me when it was all set.

You're an idiot. Your staff is obviously made up of idiots. How can you possibly think ANYONE would buy the line of crap you're selling?

Totally worthless.

Since me and my staff don't meet your unbelievable reputation, perhaps you should just pretend we don't exist and go along with your so purposeful life. lol

And NOW, now that your crybaby mod has been caught passing his work off to someone else, he wants ALL the rest of the work he's done pulled to. No doubt because of its STELLAR quality.

Actually, this person wants the info taken down to ensure everything else is safe. We are currently in the process of rechecking the work that was done.

Do yourself a favor rich, close the site and move on to something you know something about.

Web Development and reptiles are the 2 things I will be sticking with. I guess I am doing myself that favor already.

Turning on your friends maybe, edged weapons in the back perhaps, but DEFINATELY stay away from intellectual inforamtion and making it available via the web.

Once I find out what "inforamtion" is, I will certainly stay away from it!

What I will give you though is a small piece of advice. I would re-read your post and then think about that word intellectual a bit. You don't seem to understand its meaning.
 
Sorry Dennis, I was responding to the other fellow and didn't see your post.

It would be wise to check with owners of each care sheet left on your site to make sure that it is an accurate representation of their work. Even if there was misinformation or incomplete you can’t edit then slap their name back on it.

That is actually part of the problem we are having right now. When we started taking submissions, we created a forum where you have to agree to the terms set forth before it would allow you to post. The terms state that you are granting us the ability to modify, edit, etc. the submission. It goes on to state that the authors name will never be removed, but a co-author may be added if information is added.

When Bobby submitted his caresheet, he did so on the forums if I am not mistaken and not in the submissions area. Well when she snatched it for addition, it was in the caresheets section already, so she didn't know the difference. That is something I am still trying to figure out.

You have stated several times if you knew bad information had been added, you wouldn't have included it.

You can't included anything else. Accurate or not and stick the original author's name back on it.

Thats why we created the submissions forum, to gain permission before it was actually edited.

How many people now have read that Bobby wrote ?

Or any of the other changes.

Who knows how many potential customers read the sheets and decided Bobby doesn't know what hes talking about.

A reputable site with goals you state would reject a care sheet they felt was inaccurate. Not correct it with accurate or inaccurate (by mistake) information. No corrections can be made without the author's consent if their name is still on it.

Again, the submissions forum handles that "normally". Like i have been trying to say, there is a lot involved with all of this. Nothing was done intentionally and no ill harm was actually meant.

You have opened yourself up to severe liability.

I guess this is the price one pays for "trying" to do something to better the herp community. If Bobby wants to try me in court, I will forward him my address or he can grab it off the site. I have it publicly posted on the donations page for those members that have sent in contributions.
 
iguanairs said:
Again, the submissions forum handles that "normally". Like i have been trying to say, there is a lot involved with all of this. Nothing was done intentionally and no ill harm was actually meant.

I don't know how your submission forum works. I'm just going by your statements that you posted to your staff, then reposted here.
 
The way the submissions worked was pretty simple. It was a locked forum, where users couldn't see the threads or posts in it. When you clicked "new thread", you were presented with a box similar to the rules box you agreed to when you joined this site. (I use the same software.)

That page required you to agree to the rules for that forum. That included everything I previously posted.

The new R.I.D I have been creating has a physical contract that requires signing. I wanted to have a physical copy of everything in case anything were to pop-up. That page should be available already on the site if you want a clearer understanding.

It is. On the homepage of the New R.I.D, you simply click the "Submit Article" link on the left hand navigation. Its preety straight forward from there. if the user wants the agreement emailed to them they click that box, if they want it mailed to them, they click the other box and a new set of questions are revealed.

It's here: Article Submissions

The submissions forums themselves became obsolete when i created the page you can view at the link.
 
The original that was submitted was confusing and I believe I even spoke to Rich about this before I even progressed at the care sheets at all. I believe the original did not go into specific need of each species, which are different.

And what exactly is the different need she speaks of?



I have noticed another thing; this care sheet we see tonight has been edited and then reposted with my name on it yet again. Looking at the info, it is still not correct. Rich, you could not wait for me to make one for you? You had them edit the old one and put my name on this one as well?



3:25 PT 4/29/07

Author: VarnyardQuote:
This information is a generalization of the needs for the five basic Tegus that are found in the pet trade. Each species of tegu has additional requirements that are breed specific. You can read more about each specific species by using the links at the bottom of the page.

Tegus are "new world lizards" found in the tropical rainforests, tropical woodlands, and arid scrublands of Central and South America. Specific species will come from specific areas and will be noted within their caresheet. Tegus are terrestrial (ground dwelling) for the most part, but they do like to climb and swim if given the opportunity. Tegus fill the same ecological niche as monitors, and they are an example of convergent evolution.

Of the five major species found today, they divide into two separate categories. The categories separate tegus by the number of loreal scales they have on their snouts (see diagram below). The three species that are most closely related have two loreal scales; Red (Tupinambis rufescens), Argentine Black & White (Tupinambis merianae), and Blue (scientific name has not been determined as of yet). The Columbian Tegu (Tupinambis teguixin) and the Gold (Tupinambis teguixin teguixin) are closely related and each have only one loreal scale. The Gold tegu is a separate species from the Yellow Tegu (Tupinambis duseni), the Blue Tegu is believed to be a color phase (morph) of the Argentine Black & White and the Gold Tegu is believed to be a color phase (morph) of the Columbian Tegu.

Enclosure:

The basic rule of thumb for an enclosure is twice as long as the length of the reptile and as wide as the reptile is long. Specifics for species will be given within their caresheet. A hatchling can be housed in a 20-gallon aquarium, whereas a juvenile can be housed in a 55-gallon aquarium. If the enclosure is too large for the hatchling or juvenile tegu this can cause stress.

Substrate:

The recommended substrate is cypress mulch, orchid bark or eucalyptus mulch. The substrate needs to be 6" - 12" deep, as tegus like to burrow.

Lighting:

Ultraviolet light with a full-spectrum of light is recommended. Lights that emit UVB are a must for this species of reptile. Ultraviolet lighting is important in the production of vitamin D3, which is necessary for calcium metabolism. UVB should be use in addition to calcium with D3 and multi-vitamins.

Lighting Cycle:

A cycle of 12 hours of light and 12 hours of darkness is recommended.

Heating:

Each specific species has their own individual temperature need that will be discussed within their caresheet. An enclosure should be set up in zones. There should be a warn side, cool side and then a basking area. The use of under tank heating (a specific UTH made for reptiles can be used or a heating pad made for humans) is recommended along with the lighting mentioned above. NEVER USE A HEAT ROCK AS IT CAN BURN YOUR TEGU!

Water:

Tegus like to swim, so the use of two separate water bowls is suggested. Make sure one of the bowls is large enough for the Tegu to use as a pool. Change drinking water daily and pool as needed.

Food:

One of the most important things to remember is not to offer food that is larger than the area between the tegus eyes. Tegus are omnivorous as adults. They will eat both meat and vegetables. Hatchlings are carnivores and their diet should consist of crickets, small mealworms, and (mice) pinkies. The juveniles diet consists of (mice) fuzzies, large mealworms, crickets and boiled or scrambled egg (chopped). Adults diet consists of mice, large mealworms, crickets, super worms and boiled or scrambled egg, fruit and vegetables. Remember to dust crickets and worms with vitamin/calcium mixture before feeding to your tegu. See individual caresheet for more specific species food list. Adult Tegus diet will be almost equal parts meat and vegetables. Tegus can become very aggressive while feeding. Hand feeding could be dangerous, as the tegu may not recognize the difference between your hand and the food.

Humidity:

Tegus require high humidity levels of 60%-70% for proper shedding as well as proper health. Misting on a daily basis is required. If you have another way to raise the humidity, that is fine. Remember not to make the substrate tacky with too much moisture, or you may grow molds, which is not healthy for the animals.

Hibernation:

Tegus hibernate up to seven months in the wild. They will also do this in captivity if given the chance. However, tegus do not have to hibernate. If they do not hibernate, they may still slow down on feeding during the normal hibernating season. Tegus will consume great amounts of food in August to prepare to begin hibernating in September. They will hibernate from September to March and begin eating again in April.

Hides:

Tegus require hides at both ends of their enclosures. These can be made out of a half log or another safe structure. They can also benefit from a moist hide.

I stated before, there are/were more errors, yet you put my name back on this mess?

Where exactly are they getting this crap?

the Blue Tegu is believed to be a color phase (morph) of the Argentine Black & White and the Gold Tegu is believed to be a color phase (morph) of the Columbian Tegu.

Who believes this? I do not believe this, I also do not know of any of the other large breeders that do. Where is it said that the Blue tegu is a (MORPH) of the Argentine Black n White? I do not think the Blues are any closer to the Black n Whites than the Reds. It seems to me that word is used too much in this hobby. It can be said of the two different colors found in the Colombian species; I would not call them different morphs.

Tegus will consume great amounts of food in August to prepare to begin hibernating in September.

Here is more, where is this coming from? My tegus start hibernating in August, as well as slow down on feeding due to getting ready to hibernate.

They will hibernate from September to March and begin eating again in April.

Tegus will eat soon after coming out of hibernation, it might be a week, at most two, but it will not be a month.

Tegus require hides at both ends of their enclosures. These can be made out of a half log or another safe structure. They can also benefit from a moist hide.

Again, where did this come from? IMO, the heat (basking light) should be on one end and the hide on the other (no heat needed).

Adult Tegus diet will be almost equal parts meat and vegetables.

Tegu adults eat about a 20% to 80% ratio fruit; I do not think I ever used the word vegetables, however they have been known to eat a few here and there. Colombians do not eat fruit or vegetables.

One of the most important things to remember is not to offer food that is larger than the area between the tegus eyes. Tegus are omnivorous as adults. They will eat both meat and vegetables.

I think someone was reading a bearded dragon care sheet on the first part of this. No food larger then the area between the tegus eyes? Adult tegus can and do eat medium rats; you would go broke feeding mice to adults.

Also, the statement that adult tegus are omnivores, this is not true, the Colombian species are carnivores throughout life.

A hatchling can be housed in a 20-gallon aquarium, whereas a juvenile can be housed in a 55-gallon aquarium. If the enclosure is too large for the hatchling or juvenile tegu this can cause stress.

I also disagree with this statement, if young animals stress so easy, why are they not extinct in the wild?
I have heard the same thing about other species of reptiles, my question is how large in their home in the wild?

These are just a few points as to why you should not edit someone's work, if you would have contacted me and asked me if it was OK to move and use, I would have helped you with it and gave my permission to use it.

As it stands, I do not want my name used on these sites or sheets.

Oh, one more thing, I have never submitted anything to R.I.D.
 
I have noticed another thing; this care sheet we see tonight has been edited and then reposted with my name on it yet again. Looking at the info, it is still not correct. Rich, you could not wait for me to make one for you? You had them edit the old one and put my name on this one as well?

What are you talking about? The caresheet was re-edited and reposted? Where?

Who believes this? I do not believe this, I also do not know of any of the other large breeders that do. Where is it said that the Blue tegu is a (MORPH) of the Argentine Black n White? I do not think the Blues are any closer to the Black n Whites than the Reds. It seems to me that word is used too much in this hobby. It can be said of the two different colors found in the Colombian species; I would not call them different morphs.

I posted this to her and am currently awaiting a response:

Please post the list of caresheets you edited and your resources.

Again, where did this come from? IMO, the heat (basking light) should be on one end and the hide on the other (no heat needed).

Wouldn't that be location specific? Those in colder regions would need to add supplemental heat wouldn't they?

I also disagree with this statement, if young animals stress so easy, why are they not extinct in the wild?
I have heard the same thing about other species of reptiles, my question is how large in their home in the wild?

I agree with you on this Bobby, but the animal wouldn't go extinct from stress. Sure some would die, but in the wild, its the strong that survive.

These are just a few points as to why you should not edit someone's work, if you would have contacted me and asked me if it was OK to move and use, I would have helped you with it and gave my permission to use it.

Bobby, had I been the one that actually went over that caresheet, the taxonomy would have been added and it would have been done. (You may have added the taxonomy already, I don't recall.)

Oh, one more thing, I have never submitted anything to R.I.D.

The R.I.D is the article section on HC that you did give the caresheet. I just organized everything and placed it all in one location.
 
iguanairs said:
Bobby, had I been the one that actually went over that caresheet, the taxonomy would have been added and it would have been done. (You may have added the taxonomy already, I don't recall.)



The R.I.D is the article section on HC that you did give the caresheet. I just organized everything and placed it all in one location.

So, I guess when you re-wrote his caresheet, as I believe you said you did in order to get them in the proper format, you did not actually read anything you were writing? Garbage in, garbage out without any cognigant thought of what you were writing?

Well, given the lack of quality and quality control you continue to exhibit, I suppose it's not really a surprise you would once again be changing your story.

Pretty pathetic.
 
None of those caresheets are up Dennis. You are viewing yesterdays cookie or temp file. Those page have literally been deleted.

Wes, are you ok? Are you so ignorant to state that I have changed my story when I have stood behind the same story from the beginning? Grow up already and stop trying to search. if you would like to see pathetic, i suggest you glance in a mirror. Your straw pulling is nothing short of it.
 
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