www.herphabitats.com AKA Richard Brooks/ Reptile Information Database

[iguanairs]

Again with the horse pucky.

You said you didn't know what was in the caresheets you posted.

Which was true. If you understand computers, then you should understand the concept of "cut and paste".

You said you re-wrote them word for word as your mods gave them to you.

Which again is true. I have to reformat all submissions so that they comply with the sites "flow" and look.

You said you had permission from the authors to post them.

Bobby is the one who submitted the initial caresheet. Until it was edited the way it was, I did have that permission as Bobby himself had posted it. It wasn't taken from his site or anything if that is what you think. He donated a caresheet, but a staff member edited it and added inaccurate information. That's the issue.

You said your mods made deletions and additions to care-sheets written by others.

This is true, and with permission. Read the thread, because you seem to have missed an awful lot. The submissions forum had a contract attached to it. In order to post in that forum, you needed to agree to those rules that clearly stated that you allowed us to edit, modify, etc. the caresheet. Bobby didn't post in that forum, he had posted the caresheet elsewhere. When she grabbed the caresheet for editing, it didn't include the additional info edits, but she didn't realize that. As stated before, none of this was intentional. Things got screwed up in the process of how the submissions are handled and his got edited when it shouldn't have. Its not hard to understand. Think about it for a few minutes and even you might see what actually happened.

You said you didn't know when and where this was done, simply that it was.

Again, this is true. I get notified when we have caresheets that are ready for addition. That means I go to the forum I am talking about, and I "CUT AND PASTE" what is there into the template. That's when I go through and remove any text formatting and replace it with the sites text formatting. This way, everything throughout the site is "fluid".

I bet your eyes are brown. I bet your eyes are brown because you are full of feces ALL THE WAY UP TO YUOR FOREHEAD.

You claim responsibility and then say you're not responsible because you don't make modificatioins, just post the information.

You're BUSTED.

Are you really that ignorant? Are you? "I" didn't make the edits and didn't realize they had been made. The edits I make are called "cosmetic". I didn't alter his info, that is clearly stated. What you are trying to pass on is that since I edit the sheet for formatting, I have edited the caresheet. That is moronic. That's like saying I can't change any of my sites colors, text, etc. after someone submits something to me because it will also alter that persons submission. You are completely clueless if that is what you are suggesting.

You tried to steal caresheets written by others and then charge for them. Now you're outed and playing wounded party in what could become a criminal complaint for lible. With your own words and track record made public here, I don't think anyone would have much problem taking you to court.

What the hell are you talking about? Nothing was stolen from anyone. Bobby submitted a caresheet and it got edited by one of the staff. That's what this is about. Where the heck are you reading? Who the hell is charging for caresheets? Are you in the right thread? You really are as ignorant as I thought. I highly suggest you read this thread again if you ever read it to begin with. Nothing was stolen and no one is charging for anything. My goodness.

And STILL the ego you have refuses to acknowledge that your method is flawed, your product is almost worthless and you are not even CLOSE to the man only YOU think you are.

Again, you are so lost you haven't even a platform to try to stand on. Read the thread before posting. You are completely clueless as to what has actually happened here.

Boy, your kids must SURE look up to you. Of course, if they ARE looking up, it would, in theory, mean that had spinal chords that enabled them to lift their heads up. Unlike you, who seem to just jellyfish around, completely spineless, spewing names and insults and those who at first took pity on your stupidity and tried to help you not look like such a bloody idiot.

If you want to discuss my children bud, I highly suggest you come and visit me and do so to my face. You are a coward and a loser for ever bringing any mans child into any conversation. You in your own words just displayed how pathetic you are. To bring a mans family into a situation that has nothing to do is nothing short of the actions of a scumbag. Anyone who disagrees with that is clearly not a parent or is a pathetic excuse for one if they believe its ok to disrespect a mans family, who had nothing to do with any of this.

Way to go, oh het for spinal-chordia one, way to go indeed.

I think your post says everything about you!

 

[Wilomn]

You said everything I said you did. The fault is entirely yours. Bobby did NOT submit his caresheet to the siet you hijacked it to, it should never have gone there.

YOU brought your kids into it, not me.

Next time you come in, bring a mop would you. The slime trail you leave behind you not only smells of poop but that greenish sickly snot color is unpleasant to look at.

You're an idiot and you are the only one who doesn't know it. No wait, you DO know it, but you're too stubborn to admit it.

 

[iguanairs]

Oh, I see how you expected this to go Bobby. I was supposed to sit here and just let everyone walk on me when YOU yourself seem to have the facts all screwed up. You can go on and pretend this was an intentional attack or whatever you believe it was, but it doesn't change the fact that the alterations made to your caresheet were nothing more than a mere accident, done by a 3rd party, and there is absolutely no way to deny that those are the facts.

The fact of the matter is, this thread is loaded with a bunch of people ashamed to admit they made a mistake and have executed the wrong person.

My staff member altered the caresheet, that post is in this thread somwhere. I didn't realize the bad info was in there because I know nothing about Tegus. How clearer can that be to you and everyone else?

It was added altered (UNKNOWINGLY), and then removed when I was notified.

I don't look bad beyond my ignorant posts I made in retaliation for how I have been treated. The rst of this thread is mere garbage and nonsense that has been twisted and turned in a feable attempt at making you correct about what transpired.

This site is as useful as the Salem witch hunts. You crucify people and then listenm to what happened. How do any of you expect people to take things like this seriously with all the BS floating.

Wilomn, you are nothing more than a pathetic being. You are useless to society and a waste of clean air. Anyone willing to drop down to the level of including rude and ignorant remarks about anyones children is nothing more than scum. You can and will rot and better damn well hope i never meet you face to face. i will show you spineless you piece of dirt.

 

[iguanairs]

Feel free to go on bashing me in this thread. I may look in and read, but i will not tolerate, on any level, being subjected to some scumbag dirtball talking about my children. If you have anything to say to me Bobby, you know how to get in touch with me.

 

[Wilomn]

You can and will rot and better damn well hope i never meet you face to face. i will show you spineless you piece of dirt.

Oh squidly, are you threatening me?

Jeez, you're the first one to do that.

IF you do slither up to me door, will you bring your own stool to puddle on or should I be sure to have one handy for you?

IF you're going to put yourself in a position where others are answerable to you, if you are going to claim to be the head chump, as it were, don't you think you should either BE smart enough for the position or have the SMARTS to know that someone should be verifying the information YOU are regurgitating?

You go right on and do as you do best squidly, steal and edit and post as truth.

That's all good stuff for kids to be looking up to.

Say hi to the squidlets for me.

 

[varnyard]

Which was true. If you understand computers, then you should understand the concept of "cut and paste".

You did not cut and paste my care sheet; you twisted, as well as added to it. Then put my name back on it, that is wrong, do you not see that?

Which again is true. I have to reformat all submissions so that they comply with the sites "flow" and look.

What you done was far past common morals, you can call it reformatting if you wish, but this is not my true words, just my name added to your garbage.

Bobby is the one who submitted the initial caresheet. Until it was edited the way it was, I did have that permission as Bobby himself had posted it. It wasn't taken from his site or anything if that is what you think. He donated a caresheet, but a staff member edited it and added inaccurate information. That's the issue.

You never had my permission to post this on R.I.D. I submitted it to a discussion forum to help keepers with their animals. You took it and put it on R.I.D. for personal gain. I might add, at the bottom of each page this is seen:

Did this information help you? Do you want to now help us? Donate Now!

This is true, and with permission. Read the thread, because you seem to have missed an awful lot. The submissions forum had a contract attached to it. In order to post in that forum, you needed to agree to those rules that clearly stated that you allowed us to edit, modify, etc. the caresheet. Bobby didn't post in that forum, he had posted the caresheet elsewhere. When she grabbed the caresheet for editing, it didn't include the additional info edits, but she didn't realize that. As stated before, none of this was intentional. Things got screwed up in the process of how the submissions are handled and his got edited when it shouldn't have. Its not hard to understand. Think about it for a few minutes and even you might see what actually happened.

Need I say more here?

Again, this is true. I get notified when we have caresheets that are ready for addition. That means I go to the forum I am talking about, and I "CUT AND PASTE" what is there into the template. That's when I go through and remove any text formatting and replace it with the sites text formatting. This way, everything throughout the site is "fluid".

You never compared this crap to my care sheet before you posted it, if you had, you would have seen it did not come close to what was said in mine.

Are you really that ignorant? Are you? "I" didn't make the edits and didn't realize they had been made. The edits I make are called "cosmetic". I didn't alter his info, that is clearly stated. What you are trying to pass on is that since I edit the sheet for formatting, I have edited the caresheet. That is moronic. That's like saying I can't change any of my sites colors, text, etc. after someone submits something to me because it will also alter that persons submission. You are completely clueless if that is what you are suggesting.

Are you? Did you even at any point stop and think yourself?

What the hell are you talking about? Nothing was stolen from anyone. Bobby submitted a caresheet and it got edited by one of the staff. That's what this is about. Where the heck are you reading? Who the hell is charging for caresheets? Are you in the right thread? You really are as ignorant as I thought. I highly suggest you read this thread again if you ever read it to begin with. Nothing was stolen and no one is charging for anything. My goodness.

That is not true, you are not even close to knowing the truth on this. Do you think, if someone submits a care sheet here on these forums, the owner can take them, twist/add false info and post them anywhere else he sees fit? I won't even add using someone else's name.

Again, you are so lost you haven't even a platform to try to stand on. Read the thread before posting. You are completely clueless as to what has actually happened here.

I would think, it is you that needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.



I wanted to also add, this belongs on the BOI. You have been here the whole time dropping the blame on everyone else, trying to make it look like you had no wrong doings at all in this. You never fessed up and admitted you were 100% wrong all the way, no fitting apoligy, Just more smack. I might add it is too late for that, you have put that same crap up on your site a second time, it was said it was done away with, but today it was there again.

Everyone here knows how I feel about my reputation; you soiled that with your so-called Internet games. You will be the one, not anyone else here that will answer to that. So just keep dodging and darting, in the end, it is all about you.

 

[varnyard]

Feel free to go on bashing me in this thread. I may look in and read, but i will not tolerate, on any level, being subjected to some scumbag dirtball talking about my children. If you have anything to say to me Bobby, you know how to get in touch with me.

Yea, right here on the BOI.

 

[markface]

you say you had permission to edit or modify the caresheet that bobby posted , but then you state .
quote from post 53 posted by iguanairs .
" When we started taking submissions, we created a forum where you have to agree to the terms set forth before it would allow you to post. The terms state that you are granting us the ability to modify, edit, etc. the submission. It goes on to state that the authors name will never be removed, but a co-author may be added if information is added.

When Bobby submitted his caresheet, he did so on the forums if I am not mistaken and not in the submissions area."

i have a question for bobby (varnyard) . did you ever agree to have your caresheet modified or edited ? also did you ever see and agree to this so called contract ?

if bobby's answer is no to either of these questions , then it seems to me that you are guilty of copywrite infringement by your own admission .

my next concern is this ;
quotes from post 40 posted by iguanairs
"When I got the site up, I sent an email to MY members, letting them know I started HC and was leaving RF. "

"Josh played one role in this site, he owned it."

"I didn't remove ANY of Joshes stuff. NOTHING that was his was EVER touched. I only removed the items I created and contacted the users who joined while I was an administrator."

you say you sent emails to your members , but even if you were the admin of that site , IT WAS NOT YOUR SITE AND THEY WERE NOT YOUR MEMBERS . you plainly state that josh owned the site in the same thread . then you state that you sent emails to members who joined while you were the admin . just because you were admin of that site at the time does not give you the right to use that sites email listings to promote your own site . if josh owned the site , then he also owned the email lists . it doesnt matter that he did not participate , he OWNED the site . no matter how hard you worked on that site you still have no rights to anything from that site including email lists of members that joined while you were admin .

to my mind these couple points are what make you out to be a bad guy in the reptile buisness/hobby . and for these couple points , i will be sure to never grace your site with my paltry presence , AND i will be sure to tell anyone who is interested what i think of you and your site .

 

[markface]

i must be a slow typer . i guess i got my answer from bobby about permission before i submitted my post .

quote from varnyard in post 86
"You never had my permission to post this on R.I.D. I submitted it to a discussion forum to help keepers with their animals. You took it and put it on R.I.D. for personal gain. I might add, at the bottom of each page this is seen:"

 

[DThomas]

YOU brought your kids into it, not me.

Irregardless Wes, be the bigger man and leave the kids out of it. You know how much of a sore spot this is for me.

 

[Wilomn]

Irregardless Wes, be the bigger man and leave the kids out of it. You know how much of a sore spot this is for me.

While a sore spot not just with you, it goes directly to him trying to hide behind EVERYTHING he could, including his claim of being a good father. It's not his kids I'm questioning, it's his ability to father them, to teach them right from wrong, to accept the fault when it is theirs, to NOT hide and pretend and lie to escape your own words.

I DO pity his kids as I would anyone elses who had such a spineless creature for a father.

Do you leave this guy alone or do you step on his neck until you're sure he's dead?

I'm a neck stepper.

 

[varnyard]

markface: i have a question for bobby (varnyard) . did you ever agree to have your caresheet modified or edited ? also did you ever see and agree to this so called contract ?

The answers are (No) to both questions. I was also never contacted about R.I.D.

I found out about this mess in the chat room at theTegu.com, three different people asked me how long/ how I cooked my ground turkey, I finally asked where they were getting this information, it was on Richard's site R.I.D. with my name on it.

Tegus do not need cooked meat at all.

 

[Wilomn]

While a sore spot not just with you, it goes directly to him trying to hide behind EVERYTHING he could, including his claim of being a good father. It's not his kids I'm questioning, it's his ability to father them, to teach them right from wrong, to accept the fault when it is theirs, to NOT hide and pretend and lie to escape your own words.

I DO pity his kids as I would anyone elses who had such a spineless creature for a father.

Do you leave this guy alone or do you step on his neck until you're sure he's dead?

I'm a neck stepper.

Gotta get new glasses. I misread your post.

From here on out, provided he does not tout his outstanding abiltiy to father, I'll have nothing more to say of his offspring.

 

[varnyard]

I also want to say this; anyone is more than welcome to use my information to help others, I do not have a problem with this at all. I do have a problem with putting words in my mouth, altering my care sheets and using my information for personal gain.

I just wanted to clear that part up.

 

[Dogboa]

Hi Folks,
I don't post here often, but I have a few things to say on this one.

First I am a member of Herp Center, I enjoy the folks over there. As with every forum, there are those that get along fine, even with differing opinions. Then there are those that must butt heads.

My thing is corallus caninus and as most probably know, not much is posted on forums that aren't specifically devoted to the species of corallus.

I had been a member of reptileforums.com for quite sometime and to my knowledge they haven't deleted my account as per my request. Everything seemed fine there until "our friend" Tim Bowles showed up in his guise as Snowballs. Being a good friend of Matt Lerer and totally disgusted with what was done to him by Bowels and Pruitt, I confronted him and exposed him for the POS he is. Well that didn't set well with an admin named Alien Regius or something similar. After the thread was removed, I addressed this admin in PM. His answer to me was " I don't care what he did on another site, nor his dealings outside of the BP market". Remember this site is also the same that went to bed with MorphKing.

I'm sure there are good folks on that site, but when admins and mods let the likes of Bowles go unfetered, well you are judged by the company you keep.

You can agree or disagree with Rich, but those folks that went to Herp Center from that site are much better off, IMO.

Any site that let's trash like Bowels in, isn't someplace I want to Frequent.

Craig

 

[Seamus Haley]

Any site that let's trash like Bowels in, isn't someplace I want to Frequent.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/member.php?find=lastposter&t=4311

He's not banned here.

The thing about reptileforums and Bowels is that he managed not to violate any of the rules there. The conduct of people outing him for the scamming, lying thief that he is frequently did- if a set of conduct guidelines isn't applied in an evenhanded manner then it may as well not exist.

But way to add a bunch of completely unrelated crap to muddy things. Classy move.

 

[Dogboa]

What ever you say Seamus. Maybe you feel it is unrelated, but Tim isn't welcome on many sites, I think it speaks volumes of that site. This site to my knowledge doesn't delete threads and Tim has the opportunity to defend himself here, but the threads are still visible. Trying to dismiss what I said out of hand is just your opinion.

Craig

 

[Seamus Haley]

What ever you say Seamus. Maybe you feel it is unrelated, but Tim isn't welcome on many sites, I think it speaks volumes of that site. This site to my knowledge doesn't delete threads and Tim has the opportunity to defend himself here, but the threads are still visible. Trying to dismiss what I said out of hand is just your opinion.

Craig

I fail to understand how it is related. Richard Brooks hijacked the member base and attacked the site years before Tim was registered there and prior to it's sale and multiple revisions with various admins and mods and incarnations. The URL may be the same, but Tim being allowed there now has zero bearing on Richard behaving as he did.

What part of that is unclear to you? Go start a Tim Bowels thread if you've got a hair up your ass about him- you added nothing of any value to this one and went wildly off topic. It's not a damn Kevin Bacon game, it's a thread about Richard Brooks and the immoral things he's done and continues to defend.

 

[Wilomn]

What ever you say Seamus. Maybe you feel it is unrelated, but Tim isn't welcome on many sites, I think it speaks volumes of that site. This site to my knowledge doesn't delete threads and Tim has the opportunity to defend himself here, but the threads are still visible. Trying to dismiss what I said out of hand is just your opinion.

Craig

timmy bowels has managed to get himself kicked off just about every site except reptileforums.

In order for a rule to have any weight, any force, any respect, it must enforced unilaterally, not as a certain set think it should be.

So far timmy has not violated any rules on reptileforums that warrant his removal from the site.

I know Alien Regalis and I have spoken of this very topic to him. I have this from the horses mouth, so to speak.

Is morphking still active over there? As far as I know, joey capony is gone. The other Wes, the one who was joey's partner is still active as far as I know but he has not scammed anyone or stolen from anyone or made anywhere near the ass of himself that joey did.

It may well suck, but if the rules are not enforced equally, there is no point in having them at all.

 

[varnyard]

Bingo!! We have a winner!!!

Seamus Haley: it's a thread about Richard Brooks and the immoral things he's done and continues to defend.