Victor and I have come to an agreement. As I told him, I am happy he worked with me, but I would not at all consider myself a satisfied customer. I think it’s relevant for others to know how we came to our agreement, so I’ll post our recent email correspondence below. I know it’s long and I would just summarize it for you, but frankly…well, this is easier
On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Casey < > wrote:
Victor,
I think it's only fair to let you know that I've started a BOI thread discussing this transaction.
Casey
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On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Vic < > wrote:
My son is in the hospital.. So threats will get no where with me right now.. Ill get to you when I can
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On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Casey < > wrote:
Just so I understand - on fauna, you weren’t talking about me saying that I was questioning about your son were you?
If so you might want to look again cause I did not... I really hope your son is okay.
Casey
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On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Vic < > wrote:
Ok.. Thanks for clarifying- that just flipped my switch.. I will give you a refund if you like... But you would need to ship the snakes back first.. I can not refund you with no snakes.. And I can not pay shipping... I just am not home right now to do anything otherwise
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On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Casey < > wrote:
Under the circumstances, me paying shipping both ways doesn't seem very fair. I hope we can come to an agreement once you and your son are home.
Just concentrate on him for now.
Casey
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On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Victor < > wrote:
Ok thank you...will do...
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On Mar 20, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Casey < > wrote:
Hi Victor,
Please consider this offer… I really just want to end this transaction. At this point in time, there is no reason for you to not trust me; I have done everything I said I would do.
Will you just consider selling me these snakes for the price of normals? I promise you, if you will do that and then either of these snakes hatches out an albino, I promise to pay you the rest. I don’t break my word and you have no reason to believe that I would. I have not lied to you and would not lie to you.
I am willing to buy these snakes as normal at the price of $100 each which is really fair since one of them weighed 1300 grams. I paid $575 which included $75 for shipping. So as normals the price would have been $275.
575 – 275 = $300 difference.
Please just refund me $300 and again I promise to send it back if either snake proves out.
My albino has bred with the 1700 gram one 4 times since I got her and I’m going to go ahead and start breeding him to the other one as well as she is now closer to 1500 grams.
This really does seem fair, so if you disagree please let me know your reasoning. I really want to just end this transaction and have closure so we can both move on to other things.
Thanks for your consideration. I’m going to post this same file with the request in PayPal so if you agree you can accept the terms there.
Thank you,
Casey
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Vic < > wrote:
I don't know what to say.. They are hets... This is all so redicilous to me.. But I will refund you $250 in aggreance that when they do prove out I get my money back..
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On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Casey Dunham < > wrote:
Hi Victor,
I agree with those terms. If they prove out, I will give you back the $250 and I will keep you posted as to their progress until that time.
I've already sent a request for $300 to close out the Paypal claim. If you close it, I'll send you another one for $250 so once you accept it, the claim will close out.
Thank you,
Casey
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Vic < > wrote:
I'm on my phone and In the hospital till late.. I will do it first thing
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Casey < > wrote:
Sounds good. Thank you.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Vic < > wrote:
… So I sent $250.. Can you please close the dispute
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Casey < > wrote:
Hi Victor,
I got the $250 and will be closing the dispute. Also, I did see on Fauna that your son is home. I was very happy to see that. I hope he completely heals from whatever brought him to the hospital.
In ending this phase of our transaction, I do want to be very clear. I really do appreciate you refunding the $250, but at the same time I am not in any way a satisfied customer. In this situation, I would expect a sincerely apologetic professional to just offer a full refund and offer to pay shipping both ways. Or instead of offering me a $250 refund when I asked for a reasonable $300 refund– maybe you should have agreed to the $300 as well as pay for the shipping that I was charged since it was for snakes that were different than advertised. That would have led me and others more towards the possibility that this was an honest mistake rather than how it seems currently which is that you are just trying to limit your damages after getting caught. Not to even mention the bizarre email exchange you had with Kevin. It’s a fact he got a normal instead of a het albino and for some reason you did the extreme opposite of apologizing to him. Honestly, although $250 is a lot of money to me, it’s hardly worth the hoops and loops you have just put me through.
I know you continue to say that these are het albinos, but there are still a lot of questions that you would need to answer for me to feel the slightest bit comfortable that these are actually het albinos. I simply don’t understand why you continue to insist that they are hets but refuse sending at the very least the pictures you said you had and you refuse to without even offering an excuse or reason why you won’t or can’t.
That said, I am pleased that we can end this part of the transaction. I will keep you apprised as to if either of the girls lays any eggs. I put my albino with the smaller girl last night and they are currently locked again. I will honor our agreement and will gladly send you back the $250 if any albinos are hatched as well as update the BOI with that information.
Casey
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Vic < > wrote:
Your right about a few things.. But those are the snakes I advertised are the gets you have.. Which you will see when you prove out .. And in this email to you: if those snakes do not prove out I will not only buy them back and pay for shipping i will give you $100 on top of the cost...
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