Bad Guy JERRY TRESSER--BAD GUY- the worst kind

[Dennis Hultman]

Rather amazing Ben how stupid, you could be to jepordize your own business to allow people into your facility to have a bug eating contest. You would have though with all the positive threads you received here and the load of friends you have here jumping to your side of any complaint on your side that you would need this , which in the end will probably, actually give you a wrongful death action considering that even if the medical examiners report indicate that it was no fault of the roach. It came from your insect bins which I have seen and are not what you would call sanitary..

We are dealing with insects. the ramifications could very easily cause problems for others who breed these insects or easily provide more stringent regulations for breeding these roaches or other crawling creatures used as a food item....

You have done a wonderful job, in creating a major problem for yourself not to mention the cost factor. You will be sued. Either by the family, or wife or parents. I hope you and your wife have liability insurance because with a good attorney they will always go for the juguiar in these wrongful death cases. You sir are not to bright in having yourself video taped for television telling the public that " they signed a waiver" I am wondering if that included the underage boy who was also involved in your eating program..

Not to mention the insurance company who I am sure will not be happy since this was an after hours stupidiy .

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should be a bit more objective then trying to go through other unrelated threads and fitting them in to prove a point that has no relevence....

 

[BenSiegelReptiles]

"You sir are not to bright in having yourself video taped for television telling the public that " they signed a waiver" I am wondering if that included the underage boy who was also involved in your eating program.."


Just to defend this incredibly incredibly libelous publicly written statement. Our contest was not open to anyone under the age of 18 period--MANY people underage were turned away and could not compete. AND TO ADD--you sir are not too bright to write that above


FOLLOWING STATEMENT NOT TRUE IN THE LEAST-- I specifically told Ben, that I would pay whatever HE paid for the skink so he would not loose any money and I would walk away with a clear mind.. His only concern was for the $ 900 and his 7 day guarantee... That left me no options. --COMPLETE FABRICATION

AND ONE FINAL NOTE FROM ME--I keep on saying that--doesnt everyone on here? But them the floundering dude keeps spewing out half truths that need to be defended.

It was not like Jerry bought animals all the time. I think possibly one other time we let him take a cb subadult green tree monitor that he paid off. Funny! I seem to remember him doing something to that one as well. Except that time he had already paid off his purchase so he had no leverage to pay. I should have never let him take the skink in the first place. It has caused FAR more personal turmoil that was worth doing.

 

[RachelSS]

libel and slander are not something I would encourage anyone in Jerry's position to do... especially when it's posted on a forum and can be documented.

Also, Jerry, you need to stop deflecting the issue at hand to the contest. BOI rules say stick to the topic at hand. The topic is you stealing a $1,000 animal and paying $100. Pay up or take it to court.

 

[RachelSS]

I also want to point out, if this animal died in the time frame that Ben's store page lists as the time they'll make good on a deceased animal, why not call immediately?

I've done quite a bit of business with Ben Siegel Reptiles and only ONE time did I get an animal that didn't make it. I spoke with Ben's wife and she asked for pictures, I sent her pictures, she didn't have a replacement critter so she refunded me IMMEDIATELY and apologized NUMEROUS times.

They made up for the unfortunate loss of a critter, and even after that I continued to buy from BSR with confidence. If Jerry is a friend, wouldn't you know they'd help you out??

 

[Kilzac]

After going through these pages and reading all of Jerry's responses about not having any photos or any sort of proof. It makes me wonder if the following was a possibility.

Jerry knowing that he could purchase an expensive MTS for an easy down payment of $100, decides in turn to flip that animal and make a quick buck? Then in order to not owe anything to Ben for the animal, Jerry then tells Ben that the animal has deceased, and in turn has no pictures because he no longer possesses that animal.

I could be totally wrong, but it was just a scenario I thought that could potentially be happening.

- My .02 cents.

 

[MiamiExotics]

Sounds familiar

I too was dumb in falling for Jerry's tactics from the old importer ways.
I sent Jerry 2.4 Sauvegi Frogs from Paraguay.
These 2.4 were sent to him without payment processed due to the fact that he had a good "reputation" and was an "old timer".
We figured we would just run his card in the morning, as someone of his "standing" was not gonna screw us over, especially since he jumps on threads on the BOI and puts his 2 cents in.
Well come morning, fedex says delivered. We realize we never even got his card information, so call him up to finalize deal. He doesn't pick up.
He doesn't pick up for DAYS.
We just figure something is up and he'll come through eventually, or when we see him. We happen to go to Ben Seigel;s shop to deliver some animals a month or two later. Jerry is there. I go up to him and ask him about the payment on the frogs. I had to remind him which frogs, and he said oh they all died, I am not paying for them.
No proof of bodies, no contacting us to let us know, no answering calls, no anything from him till I surprised him at Ben's shop. You can ask Ben, after I went up to him, Ben asked me in the office what was wrong with Jerry, looks like he got flustered or scared? Why did he leave so quickly?

So all in all, I was never paid for 2.4 LTC Sauvegi tree frogs that were in prime
CONDITION by Jerry Tresser. He has also contacted us on ads and broadcast lists trying to buy more Sauvegi from us.

Second story,
Jerry tried to pay us for fruit flies at a show with his Wife s credit card.
It did not have HIS name on it, nor any Power of attorney letter stating he could use it at time of presenting credit card for purchases.
He then gave us attitude on how nobody cares, just run it. Obviously, we said no, and he gave us his card to see "if it goes through". He has sold animals to people we know with the story of his wife is ill, and he has to pay bills urgently, but then contacted same people to buy animals from them worth more then what he recently sold them. His wife may be ill, but knowing this information we could not allow a possibly ill persons card to be used without their POSSIBLE knowledge.

I have contacted another fellow in the frog business who had similar experience with Jerry, and he should be posting soon on the issue. Same kind of story, no contact, no payment, "frogs died".

This all occured awhile back (except cc incident which was last repticon Ft. Lauderdale). I may or may not have emails since was mostly over the phone., but I can produce shipping history from fed ex to him for when the frogs occured.

 

[MiamiExotics]

He purchased them from our wholesale division Petaholiks, Inc.
Our retail store is
Snakes at Sunset
Miami, Fl

 

[Lucille]

I must tell you Ben and I had a healthy , honest relationship. There would be no reason for me to try and circumvent payment unless something really bad occurred and how the heck do you loose a $ 1, 000 Solomons skink in 2 weeks. Unreard of... Incidentlally, I never , ever suggested non payment. I would have tried to work out a settlement and I would have wanted some kind of replacement value to resolve the problem...

You dont know what you are talking about, and enough with your nonsense. It does nothng but flame this situation;...

We happen to go to Ben Seigel;s shop to deliver some animals a month or two later. Jerry is there. I go up to him and ask him about the payment on the frogs. I had to remind him which frogs, and he said oh they all died, I am not paying for them.
No proof of bodies, no contacting us to let us know, no answering calls, no anything from him till I surprised him at Ben's shop. You can ask Ben, after I went up to him, Ben asked me in the office what was wrong with Jerry, looks like he got flustered or scared? Why did he leave so quickly?

So all in all, I was never paid for 2.4 LTC Sauvegi tree frogs that were in prime
CONDITION by Jerry Tresser. He has also contacted us on ads and broadcast lists trying to buy more Sauvegi from us.

Second story,
Jerry tried to pay us for fruit flies at a show with his Wife s credit card.
It did not have HIS name on it, nor any Power of attorney letter stating he could use it at time of presenting credit card for purchases.
He then gave us attitude on how nobody cares, just run it. Obviously, we said no, and he gave us his card to see "if it goes through". He has sold animals to people we know with the story of his wife is ill, and he has to pay bills urgently, but then contacted same people to buy animals from them worth more then what he recently sold them. His wife may be ill, but knowing this information we could not allow a possibly ill persons card to be used without their POSSIBLE knowledge.

I have contacted another fellow in the frog business who had similar experience with Jerry, and he should be posting soon on the issue. Same kind of story, no contact, no payment, "frogs died".

This all occured awhile back (except cc incident which was last repticon Ft. Lauderdale). I may or may not have emails since was mostly over the phone., but I can produce shipping history from fed ex to him for when the frogs occured.

So Jerry, you were saying....?

 

[Lucille]

I have contacted another fellow in the frog business

He does have to come on here, or you have to name him so he isn't anonymous.

 

[hhmoore]

Way to plug your businesses in a BOI thread, Michael ...you could at least tried to be subtle about it, and worked it into your story.

 

[Teatime]

Second story,
Jerry tried to pay us for fruit flies at a show with his Wife s credit card.
It did not have HIS name on it, nor any Power of attorney letter stating he could use it at time of presenting credit card for purchases.
He then gave us attitude on how nobody cares, just run it. Obviously, we said no, and he gave us his card to see "if it goes through". He has sold animals to people we know with the story of his wife is ill, and he has to pay bills urgently, but then contacted same people to buy animals from them worth more then what he recently sold them. His wife may be ill, but knowing this information we could not allow a possibly ill persons card to be used without their POSSIBLE knowledge.

Is that a red flag? I sell things at work and people try to do this on occasion. I don't question it, I just have them sign their own name on the receipt so it won't be like they're forging anyone's signature.

 

[MiamiExotics]

Sorry, I just wanted to make sure he knew who was posting the story, as I do not know if Jerry remembers my whole name or which company I am with.

 

[squinn]

By law "nobtail" Jerry will have to pay the $900 he owes or you go to jail! That's how it works. .

Is my understanding of the legal system this poor? I didn't realize we were back to having debtors prison. Seeing as he didn't "steal" the animal but was allowed to leave the store with the owners knowledge i would assume this is a civil matter not a criminal matter.

 

[RainDropExotics]

IF the story about the frogs is also true I believe Jerry's little scams are coming to light. Bad human!

I am born again in the reptile community from when I was younger. Even I know to contact the story IMMEDIATELY if sickness or death occurs with one of their purchased animals. I will drive the 30 minutes as proof if not for a refund but so they know that they might have others that could be sick. Being in the community for years.....you can't even use ignorance as an excuse. I hope everyone becomes aware of this manipulation.

 

[Pinky gecko girl]

Sorry squinn,
But I know that if the judge says he must pay that back and doesn't then it can cause issues

 

[BenSiegelReptiles]

I think at this point I would prefer to just let our attorney handle it. He has caused far more damage then just a skink that he didnt pay for that supposedly "died" but he has no proof of. What can I say? In both writing and person he challenged me to hire and attorney--my hands are tied? Attorneys are expensive. Im finding that out really fast. I sure hope that any of the false things he wrote don't upset me and my family or my manager or his family. No doubt they have already hurt the investigation that is underway by spewing out complete lies about an incident that Jerry was not even at.

 

[Riserax]

Jerry, you have got to be kidding. Either you're a complete idiot or a con-artist.. Ben and his family DO NOT deserve the stress they are going through right now and the last thing they need is this.. It's not too late to do the right thing and either bring the animal in question back, which I assume is still alive, and make amends. Avoid all this drama and be a good guy, eh? :} This world can use more of them..

 

[bmr1052]

Sorry squinn,
But I know that if the judge says he must pay that back and doesn't then it can cause issues

Sure can, if he loses the case and doesn't pay then his wages can be garnished and bank account can be levied. If those happen there are huge fees that go along with that. Just give him the animal back or pay him already!!!

 

[scaledverts]

With regard to recordings. This is not a watergate , spy recording. We do it through our 800 # because we take orders. receive card information and sometimes need to make sure that everything is accurate... There is nor was any hidden agenda when I called... I had no idea whether you were there or not... It just so happens you were..... your a good guy Billy, JERRY

Three things...

1) Recording someone on the phone without their consent IS an illegal wire tap in Florida, it doesn't matter WHY you do it. Florida specifically prohibits "one-party consent" and requires that both parties give consent.

2) I certainly hope that you properly store the recordings that contain credit card information. IE password encrypted servers as is required of you as a merchant.

3) There is no scenario here OR the other thread where you are in the right. I'm not sure what you hope to get out of continuing to try to insist that you are right here.

 

[DavidBeard]

The BS coming out of Jerry's mouth could choke a donkey.