Bad Guy Craig Martin

[Craig martin]

Mr Moorman I never told him I didn't want the snow I only said I wanted something breeder size to replace my girl. As far as 2 years later it was more like 4 I had to breed her to find out. And as I've said multiple other times I could've missed but the way Craig told me from his mouth the guy that he got my girl from screwed him on another animal. And when I told him I was breeding her to my motley anery male he tried to buy her back. It's just a lot of weird things went into this transaction.

Nothing wierd at all . You needed money and asked to buy her .! I have the family post that states it. Your a con bro. It's getting better and better. Hey damian. You messed up . It's ok. Just apologize and we can move forward. Well as long as your good with shipping first. Cuz it's the only way I'm doing a thing. And I'll say it loud and clear. I wont screw you! I've never screwed you . Stop the lies and ship her out. So I can prove her out and shit you down.

 

[Ed Clark]

IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE HATCH RESULTS CRAIG.

We all understand what can happen breeding hets,it's more about your piss poor customer service.you made a deal than changed it at the last minute then talked to your customer with no respect.

 

[Craig martin]

California Commercial Code COM section 2313:




(1) Express warranties by the seller are created as follows:

(a) Any affirmation of fact or promise made by the seller to the buyer which relates to the goods and becomes part of the basis of the bargain creates an express warranty that the goods shall conform to the affirmation or promise.

(b) Any description of the goods which is made part of the basis of the bargain creates an express warranty that the goods shall conform to the description.

You all are ridiculous. I have every right to change anything that i say. When the customer starts demanding things that are unnecessary. Or starts telling you how the transaction will go down. Now i have done nothing wrong . You can try all you want. At the end of the day his information is broken. And only parts are here .. I am tired of this . So I'm going to post what he didnt post!! I'm a moral man this is unfortunate and a common happening in today's market place. I was to nice to him.. that wont happen anymore. You want to be mr innocent huh.. stand by cuz I'll prove you are far from it...

 

[Lucille]

So I'm going to post what he didnt post!!

Put up or shut up.

 

[Ed Clark]

I am tired of this . So I'm going to post what he didnt post!! I'm a moral man this is unfortunate and a common happening in today's market place. I was to nice to him.. that wont happen anymore. You want to be mr innocent huh.. stand by cuz I'll prove you are far from it...

Please post anything that will help you in any way.

You can never be too nice or too honest in an online business transaction.

 

[Insomniac101]

You all are ridiculous.

Hardly.

I have every right to change anything that i say.

Not in a business contract, you don't.

You can try all you want.

Don't need to; you're doing a good job of it yourself.

So I'm going to post what he didnt post!!

And?

... stand by cuz I'll prove you are far from it...

And??

 

[Reptar]

My initial reply was in support of Mr Martin as 6 eggs is not enough of a sample to prove if it is indeed het or not. No matter how much a seller is frustrated by a buyer it does not make good business to disrespect them publicly on any forum. Your initial reaction was commendable to offer a replacement but instead of slinging mud back and forth what would be satisfactory to both parties involved to settle this? What does the buyer want and what is the seller able to offer in compensation?

 

[dmasio]

Again Craig no where in our messages did I say I didn't want the snow I said what I wanted was another adult albino het anery. You started to tell me about other animals and then offered the adult albino het anery that you had not paid off yet or so you said. You had no problem offering up an animal when I asked about the legitimacy of her genetics. Again I'm not complaining about not producing a snow (it would've been sweet) and it's possible I missed but buddy the way you've acted through this whole thing has been suspect. Please show me some proof to the contrary on anything I've said.

 

[dmasio]

Also Craig you offered me a citrus marble breeder male from Sal and Nick and then das later start to tell me how they screwed you on that snake. I don't quite remember how they did without me reading the messages again. But why would you offer me an animal you weren't happy with to replace mine. And hes saying I was disrespectful because I told him I'd like him to ship 1st so I can make sure I'm not getting the wool pulled over my eyeshoulder by getting a sick animal or what not. I don't think it's unreasonable after reading some things about him

 

[klingie83]

This why when spending good money on quality animals it is always good to buy from reputable people. Unfortunately in the reptile industry it is hard to find that. It’s sad really. I have read this whole thread and still have yet to see any proof of Craig’s story. Yea don’t blame you one bit for being weary of getting Animal from him. I too would want to make sure it was healthy. Craig you definitely need to learn some people skills when it come to speaking to your paying customers. Well good luck in getting this disaster worked out.

 

[Craig martin]

I have already done that. Once I learn how to post screen shots I'll do that. But you are ajoke becsuse anyone that thinks he rates a new animal after only 7 eggsdoesnt know what their doing.. the fact that this wee of a man screwed mr over on the last deal before this. I lost a couple thousand dollars. And I him saying the exact opposite of what he is telling you. I'm sorry if I dont onow how to post. I have TBI from combat.. even after he went back on his word I still offered him something. The dude is a bottom feeder. Plain and simple. I'll get a post out on him with everything he left out. Trust me

 

[Craig martin]

Just because someone post half of the truth you all jump on the bandwagon. Without even asking me. Which is fine.. the. Good guy finishes last now a days.. it's set up like that . When it happens to you ... I wont do what youdid....
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[dmasio]

LMFAO here's the deal Craig keeps saying I backed out on this was anot earlier deal prior to contacting him about the legitimacy of the adult albino. I was looking for a breeder marble male so he offers me a citrus marble male (the one I mentioned in the other post that he got from Sal and Nick and remember something is wrong with this one I found out way later) so I offer him 4 pieds for it. He was good with the deal BUT he wanted me to ship the male back to him when his females were ready and he'd ship him back when mine were ready. I told him I'd take the male but I WASNT agreeing to shipping the male back and forth to much could happen like it could get sick, or lost during shipping not to mention it could die. Also what if it died during shipping how am I going to be made whole??? But I agreed to the trade minus the shipping back and forth I told him this 2 hours later after getting back from going out to eat with the wife. He explodes that he lost a ton of money on another deal blah blah blah. It shows he was trying to flip animals he didn't even have in his possession yet. Now I'm not knocking people for flipping animals it's not my thing but it just shows the type of person he is. He seems shady ALL the way around. Now Craig I'll post the pics of that conversation. If you have other stuff to dispute please tell me I'll post pics for you. Please show me PROOF of anything you say. It's a HUGE red flag the guy is a blatant liar

 

[dmasio]

I forgot to attach them here they are

 

[Craig martin]

warped

I forgot to attach them here they are

thanks . but there are more. You have issues if you think its ok that you backed out. you cost me alot. It doesnt matter though . wont change the fact that you are the reason you dont have your girl. and im not going to sell another het produced by someone else other then me. Im especially not sending you one so that we can go through this again. I have always helped you out . Ive never turned you away until you started trying to tell me what and how im going to do stuff. I never did this to you when you screwed me. You would of had your animal had you continued on the agreed shipping date. WE were both shipping on the same day. YOU changed the deal!! By trying to say im going to burn you . YOU chose not to ship. Not me. So try being honest with yourself and everyone else. But now you have gone to far. The bad rating and boi???? i didnt desreve it . So you can bet your not getting anything from me.

 

[dmasio]

and this is what I'm saying this guy is a nutcase and delusional I didn't back out of the deal for the breeder male shipping you were the one that got upset because I didn't want to ship back and forth I'm not risking the animal. And you were the one that wanted to change the shipping arrangement on the day of shipping. And to be honest we had an issue with you shipping the albino girl to me years ago. I wish I had the messages for that but it was so long ago that I don't have them anymore. I would still love to see any proof you have of me screwing you over. As far as never turning me away Hell no you didn't I had money to spend lol you wanted it.

 

[Chris Kennard]

I see a few posts here about a bad tranaction. Two years ago? Was there a flaw in that "transaction"? Bad packaging? Came late? Sick animal? This complaint, two years later, is premature. If I were Craig, I'd be salty too.

 

[Chris Kennard]

LMFAO here's the deal Craig keeps saying I backed out on this was anot earlier deal prior to contacting him about the legitimacy of the adult albino. I was looking for a breeder marble male so he offers me a citrus marble male (the one I mentioned in the other post that he got from Sal and Nick and remember something is wrong with this one I found out way later) so I offer him 4 pieds for it. He was good with the deal BUT he wanted me to ship the male back to him when his females were ready and he'd ship him back when mine were ready. I told him I'd take the male but I WASNT agreeing to shipping the male back and forth to much could happen like it could get sick, or lost during shipping not to mention it could die. Also what if it died during shipping how am I going to be made whole??? But I agreed to the trade minus the shipping back and forth I told him this 2 hours later after getting back from going out to eat with the wife. He explodes that he lost a ton of money on another deal blah blah blah. It shows he was trying to flip animals he didn't even have in his possession yet. Now I'm not knocking people for flipping animals it's not my thing but it just shows the type of person he is. He seems shady ALL the way around. Now Craig I'll post the pics of that conversation. If you have other stuff to dispute please tell me I'll post pics for you. Please show me PROOF of anything you say. It's a HUGE red flag the guy is a blatant liar

Show where he "exploded". I HATE melodramatics. I think you are outside on a windy night waving a huge red flag of your own!

 

[Chris Kennard]

Sorry for the loooong read regarding having to SUFFER through that snowflake post.

 

[Craig martin]

Show where he "exploded". I HATE melodramatics. I think you are outside on a windy night waving a huge red flag of your own!

Last time im posting about this. If anyone supports this guy when he only produced 7 eggs using 2 hets trying to make a double recessive animal. You imput is void. 7 eggs is nothing. If you support him because i changed the deal. You are void again. Because there was alot of talking don over the phone. Not to mention that it is clear if you read ALL the texts that HE FIRST SAID HE WASNT GOING TO SHIP ON THAT DAY!! NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No breeder would have said to him in that moment ok ill ship first with your tail between your legs. i WAS DOING HIM A FAVOR !! I didnt have to . Especially AFTER HE BURNED ME ON THE DEAL PRIOR TO THIS HAPPENING. Thats why i say you all are A JOKE. So you have to use someone else identity to post . I dont care how you want to try and cover the truth. Its me that makes the choice to help you or not. In the past you screwed me and yes you did say you were out of the deal and left me high and dry. I dont need everyone else to believe me. I have a great reputation for helping people out. I have done it for you. I was doing it for you even after you backed out and changed your mind. But you fail to realize is that You dont tell me how im going to help you. All you did was mistook my kindness for weakness. Which landed you with a perfectly good adult proven albino sd female for pennies to the dollar. So instead of complaining. you should thanking me. Like i said if i really need to i will produce the texts that i need to. I haven't ONLY because im not like 10 years old on the playground anymore like you are. I dont going wrongfully smearing names just because I dont get my way. Most of all I dont need to defend myself against someone like you. You do enough damage to yourself...lmao Chris should of thought about how this looks for him. and you Damian Maci