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Reptster.com experience with show sponsorship not good

From my limited experience with headers and footers it would seem to me that David could copy them from any email to Kelly and just change the date and time and text? I don't really know if that is how it works or not as there is a lot of coding in there that I don't understand - but it could be in the realm of possibilities. :shrug01:
 
From my limited experience with headers and footers it would seem to me that David could copy them from any email to Kelly and just change the date and time and text? I don't really know if that is how it works or not as there is a lot of coding in there that I don't understand - but it could be in the realm of possibilities.

Except for the fact that in David's case he only sent two emails. One from his Blackberry and the other from a computer. I don't think he has a lot of info to work with. I would assume a Blackberry's header info would be completely different. The longer he waits to post the headers of all his emails the worse it looks.
 
I signed up on the site and when trying to navigate the shipping section to see sample rates (this was in the early days of the site), somehow got boxes sent to me. I never used them and if David tells me the cost I will Paypal him the money for the boxes. I am also going to ask that my account be deleted as well.

It's good to see that David has the time to email me back but can't answer to why he is a deadbeat.

:NoNo:

from David Young <[email protected]>
to Jamie <[email protected]>
date Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:08 AM
subject Re: Cancel
mailed-by reptster.com

hide details 11:08 AM (1 hour ago)


Reply


Jamie,

No Problem, it was already suspended as you were the first person to steal boxes from the shipping program.

Thanks,
David

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On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jamie <[email protected]> wrote:

David,

Please cancel my account and remove my profile from Reptster. After what I have seen on Fauna, I wouldn't do business with you or your site and don't want my name associated with it.

Thank you for your time.

Jamie Glass
Glass Reptiles
www.glassreptiles.com
 
As in anything in this world, everthing that we do in our lives is a learning process. Yes we will never do anything again without a contract, that is for sure. And I do belive, that mistake on our part has been admitted to more the once on here.

I guess what gets me the most is that, as you have said what happened to the "olden days", well let me say this, in the "olden days" when you gave your word it meant more that anything. What happened? What really happened to this world?

Mr. Young
What is there really to say to you. You say you have called and have had long talks with Kellly, what about the time that I called you, only a very short time ago. Why did you not return my call? Great customer service.

Just so that all here know. We have contacted the phone company to get a copy of all of the phone call that have ever went out or came into our number. The phone company said that all of this could be provided including how long each call took place, the problem is that it would take a court order to do so because we have the unlimited long distance calling plan. Just in case anyone wants to see if that is true, the phone company that we have here is Verizon. I am no one that know the law in full, I do not think that we can just get a court to order to do that without reason, but we are planning to see what can be done.

I just find it intersting that we ask days ago to be removed form Reptster, yet today we are still a member. I also find it very interesting that Mr. Young can seem to find the time to contact all of these other people but yet we have gotten NO emails or phone calls. Hmmmmmmmm............
 
If anything we have had 10 people cancel and 30 mostly new members write emails saying that someone had to show what a joke the BOI is. It was only a point to prove validity not disrespect the community my team has worked hard to provide great services to.

Sincerely,
David Young
727-686-5456

I'm gonna say it. Bullsh*t! He's insulting the BOI, AGAIN! And again it's playground-level "well I have more friends than you" crap.

Let's look at people that think the BOI is a joke. Off the top of my head...Dan Scolaro, Nick Ignacio, Ed Clark...are these really the type of people you want to be associated with?
 
This is a letter I wrote to Kathy Love after a long call last night. I realized I may have hit a few targets I was not aiming for. I did not mean to offend everybody, please read below.

Kathy,

I would like to apologize to you for my response on the BOI. It no way was it meant to offend or disappoint you. I have not read your post, Mike told me about it.

To explain my actions I will tell you I have no belief in the BOI. No matter what anyone says you can falsify emails with the greatest of ease in 2 minutes. And there is no embedded header information that cannot be altered. Anything is easy to manipulate in electronic transmissions. So to post anything into an open forum and prove it truthful is impossible in this case. The only truth about what really happened is between Kelly and me and no matter what “investigation” takes place the truth will only be known to the parties involved because she has one twist and I know another. Knowing what I know about technology fuels my ideas about the BOI.

That said, when this issue was first posted I was sticking to my beliefs and not replying. If I don’t believe in something I don’t take part. Greg called me and asked me to reply, I argued for a bit but I have a ton of respect for him and on my way out the door to an appointment and without thinking too much I wrote a very brief reply which contained no real statements and stated I will be back later. By the time I came back and checked again there were the usual few who love to bash already on there making assumptions and bashing. This is what the BOI is known for to most and though most of the respected individuals who feel this way won’t publicly admit it in fear of backlash. Once I saw that I reverted right back to my 100% lack of respect for the BOI and wrote some comical emails that would mock every bit of info in the BOI and show how much I care about it. One thing I didn’t realize was that the people who I do respect such as you would take the post as disrespect. When I heard about your post I realized such and called you to talk about the issue. I meant absolutely no harm with those emails they were directed at the very few people who hang around and jump on anything they can to make themselves feel better, and believe everything they read on the BOI. I don’t have a problem with Fauna just the core idea of the BOI is flawed. My sincerest apologies go out to you and the logical people who took offense to that post. It needed to be a targeted strike and instead I inadvertently used a nuke.

Now onto the issue of Kelly. When Kelly and I first talked it was on the phone and that is where most of our communication took place. There were a few emails that took place one of which I told her it was off. The reason I did not post it goes back to my knowledge of technology and bringing validity to something that has none. It is very easy to fake an email copy and pasted or live. In our first conversation we discussed sponsorship of the show and these are the facts that were laid out: It is a first time, startup show; it is on the same weekend as Tinley Park and exposure will not be great. We discussed the price she wanted, $250.00, I stated I would love to help as with anything good for the community and we agreed on that. A few days after that call she called up and stated she could really use $750.00, she stated it’s a new show, it’s costing more than what she thought, and she and her new husband have 5 kids and so on. I stated that I was sorry, that was way too much for a new show. I also stated I support the Repticons and that 200 caries me very far with them (brings us to Ellrod which I will get to later). She came back to $250.00 then I got an email requesting 750 again. I called again and had close to the same conversation and that ended up the same way. I believe the next communication I received via email on my blackberry was from her which I skimmed and realized based on our last call I needed to get the check out and responded as such. When I got home and read the entire email I realized she was asking for 750 again…. Here is the email I sent in response:

(once again I hate including this because it only validates this action)

----- Original Message -----
From: David Young
To: Central PA Reptile Expo
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: Please call me

Kelly,
I just got home and read your email, please disregard my last. We have spoken about this numerous times. Seven Hundred and fifty dollars is way too high for this show. I spent much less than that in San Diego and that show was huge. I am going to have to completely decline any sponsorship in your show at this point. Maybe next year when the show is more stable and pricing is more structured we can work something out.

Thanks,
David


At this point I considered this dead until that thread was started. I believe she also states that I am impossible to get a hold of. The customer service number at the top of the site is always answered unless we are on the other line. We field over 30 shipping questions a day. With that volume along with all the other general questions it is impossible to screen calls. It is not hard to get a hold of Reptster.

On our call this morning you also stated that someone named Ellrod from Repticon is stating something. I have never heard of her, when I deal with them I deal with Billy and Patty who I just spoke with last week about what shows we are doing in the future and nothing was brought up about this. I called Ms. Ellrod and she stated she knows nothing and that I have to talk to Billy. I have a message in and am waiting on that. But yes I did sponsor a few shows of theirs and have paid in full as far as I know.

I have not read the posts in the BOI but I can only imagine what will be said once you or I post this. For the record this is not damage control, this is an apology to those of you I meant no disrespect to. The only purpose of that post was to show how ridiculous believing anything you read on the BOI is unless you can establish transaction, and in this case you cannot. If anything we have had 10 people cancel and 30 mostly new members write emails saying that someone had to show what a joke the BOI is. It was only a point to prove validity not disrespect the community my team has worked hard to provide great services to.

Sincerely,
David Young
727-686-5456

Mr. Young,

I am allowing you the opportunity to set things right here on this site, but my patience with your constant yammering about the "BOI being a joke" is quickly coming to an end. If you continue to belittle what I have created here, the people it has helped, and everyone else who finds the BOI to be of value to THEM, then you WILL be removed from the picture here completely.

Quite frankly, I believe it is in very poor taste for another webmaster to come to another's site and belittle their efforts as you are doing in this thread. So if you cannot change your attitude while coming into my living room to talk with my friends here, then you WILL be forcibly shown the door. You would not be the first I have done this to, nor will you likely be the last, so please don't think for an instant that I am singling you out. I don't demand respect, but I see absolutely no reason to tolerate disrespect in my own house.

I do hope this is PERFECTLY clear to you.
 
As usual, my husband and I take turns on our responses to things. Although we do work as a team, we each have our own ways of stating things, and we like to put them out their our own way sometimes. This is one of those cases.

My response to all of this -

First, with regards to Mr. Young's phone call to Cathy Elrod at Repticon. Cathy and I have communicated through this ordeal, and she called me after speaking to Mr. Young. She had a very valid point to me - the Repticon team is just that - a TEAM. Why, if Billy straightened things out with Mr. Young would he NOT mention this to Cathy when she spoke to him about posting on this thread? Why would he even want to have a post on here with their situation if it was straightened out? This makes no sense to Cathy, or to me, and our only thinking is that maybe that phone call did not happen. Neither of us have proof of that, it is PURELY speculation, but Cathy IS going to find out from Billy. Just food for thought.

Secondly, the fact that Mr. Young said to Cathy that he would be emailing Kathy Love immediately says something to me. Why, if he was trying to straighten things out, would he go back to Kathy, and not pick up the phone or email US? He wants things straightened out, then go to the source. It appears to me that he is just once again pulling on Kathy's HUGE heart strings to twist things around in his favor. I say again, DEPLORABLE on his part.

Now my response to Mr. Young's claims AGAIN.
1. The phone calls he claims happened DID NOT HAPPEN. At least not after the first call. That is about the only truth in what he says happened in that call however - that it happened at all. All of the details of what I say happened in that call have already been spelled out way back in this thread, so I will not repeat them, but we agreed on $750 from the very first phone call. He is correct that we spoke about the fact that it is a start-up show, and that it was taking place the same weekend as Tinley Park. The reason this was mentioned mainly was because Mr. Young said he already committed to being there, and that he would ship us materials to set up about a week before the show to help advertise the business, and I agreed to this. He also DID say that he wanted to do whatever he could to help out a start-up show with people that had the same values as he did about the reptile community. Most of our stance can be found on our webpage about how we feel about this.
2. I never called Mr. Young back asking for $750 because the show was costing more than I expected. Before ever talking to Mr. Young about the show (or anything else for that matter), a budget was worked out for the show, the hotel was booked, I had my numbers in order. Mr. Young's money was to be used in part to help cover some costs, but not for the main part of the show. We were hoping to be able to do extra advertising, and maybe some other events/promotions for the show OUTSIDE of the regular show finances. We (speaking as Kordek's Kritters) have a business account at our bank, and the money to cover the expenses for the show has been in place for awhile. We did not need Mr. Young's money for those things, it was to HELP cover things that we would not be able to do ABOVE and BEYOND the regular show expenses (the hotel rental, etc). The fact that my husband and I just got married on May 3rd, and that we have 5 children was IRRELEVANT to the business side of things, and I have NEVER used this excuse to justify anything in my life financially. Business is business, personal is personal, and we keep our finances this way as well. This phone call never happened, plain and simple.
3. Mr. Young did mention to me that he sponsors several other shows, but never mentioned which shows, nor his agreements with those shows. This was mentioned simply because I asked what his agreements were with other shows, how he "normally does things", to which he responded it varies show to show. This happened on the very first call we ever had, and was never mentioned again. So this phone call that Mr. Young said happened, did not happen. Neither did the phone call after.
4. I find it very interesting that so many of our transactions happened by phone according to Mr. Young, but he found it necessary to email his response to back out of the deal. Why change the pattern of communication at that point? And if he decided an email was good enough at that time, why did he not contact me again since I did not respond? Again, I say it is because that email was never sent.
5. Yes, I did state publicly that he was difficult to get in touch with. I have also stated that most of the times I tried to speak to him and actually got him on the phone, the conversations were short and sweet, as he was always too heavily involved in things with FedEx accounting issues, or personal things (such as his girlfriend moving into his apartment, or commitments with his daughter). I always told him to call me back "later" when things straightened out, however, he never returned those calls. Also, if we had so many phone conversations, why did I state many times in my emails to him that I had been trying to reach him for days, and that I had been leaving messages on both numbers I had available to me?

Mr. Young, I have asked you several times, both privately and publicly, to forward me any missing emails you may have regarding our transaction. If you choose not to forward them to me, please forward them to someone who has the knowledge to prove the validity of that email, as I did earlier to Dennis Hultman.

As far as his blatant insults of Fauna BOI and its members, he did not do as well as he thought in hiding it as he thought he did IMO. He can apologize to Kathy and THROUGH Kathy to "those he respects", but still hints at his feeling that the BOI is a joke. Not a smart move for ANYONE, and I would say that if I was not directly involved in this thread as a party who was wronged.

At this time, we still have not received any communication from Mr. Young.

Kelly Kordek
 
<text deleted>

.... This phone call never happened, plain and simple.
3. Mr. Young did mention to me that he sponsors several other shows, but never mentioned which shows, nor his agreements with those shows. This was mentioned simply because I asked what his agreements were with other shows, how he "normally does things", to which he responded it varies show to show. This happened on the very first call we ever had, and was never mentioned again. So this phone call that Mr. Young said happened, did not happen. Neither did the phone call after.
4. I find it very interesting that so many of our transactions happened by phone according to Mr. Young, but he found it necessary to email his response to back out of the deal. Why change the pattern of communication at that point? And if he decided an email was good enough at that time, why did he not contact me again since I did not respond? Again, I say it is because that email was never sent.
5. Yes, I did state publicly that he was difficult to get in touch with. I have also stated that most of the times I tried to speak to him and actually got him on the phone, the conversations were short and sweet, as he was always too heavily involved in things with FedEx accounting issues, or personal things (such as his girlfriend moving into his apartment, or commitments with his daughter). I always told him to call me back "later" when things straightened out, however, he never returned those calls. Also, if we had so many phone conversations, why did I state many times in my emails to him that I had been trying to reach him for days, and that I had been leaving messages on both numbers I had available to me?

<text deleted>

Kelly Kordek


Just out of curiosity, how tough would it be for Mr. Young to simply scan the billing statements from his phone service(s) showing those disputed phone calls to Kelly? :shrug01:
 
we have had 10 people cancel

I think you are lying. There have been almost that many that have posted here on this thread that they have asked to cancel. Some say their names have been detained on your list after a cancel request and they have detailed the efforts they put into leaving. So perhaps you are simply ignoring the requests you are getting in order to try to persuade others that you are not really hemorrhaging customers.

I think you have many requests to cancel and after this last post you will have many more. In this business, disrespect and lying are not ways to build a business. Your ridicule of the BOI disgusts me and if you were the last shipper on earth I'd get in my car and deliver a reptile before I'd use your service.
 
4. I find it very interesting that so many of our transactions happened by phone according to Mr. Young, but he found it necessary to email his response to back out of the deal. Why change the pattern of communication at that point? And if he decided an email was good enough at that time, why did he not contact me again since I did not respond? Again, I say it is because that email was never sent.

Lets pretend he did send that email ~

He didn't even offer you any compensation for whatever time and work either you or Matt may have put in or work performed up to that point.


The guy is nothing but a lying snooty deadbeat scumbag.
 
David

If you have taken it this far, finish the process if you want any sort of vindication. i believe you originally stated that there were a "couple of Emails" that Kelly had not posted. Forward the originals to Dennis Hultman and he can verify if they are genuine. If there are numerous phone calls that you made that are being contested, post a phone bill that verifies them. The OP has provided evidence, you have not, it really is as simple as that.

We also now have evidence of a pattern.

You can't have it both ways. If the BOI is such a joke to you then you should have simply ignored this entire thread. It obviously is having some impact since you feel compelled, however unprofessionally, to respond.

You have sort of reached the "put up or shut up" stage of things.
 
And incidentally David. I called a couple of my "techie' buddies. Truly faking an email to stand up to scrutiny from someone who knows how to analyze them is damn near impossible. If what you send in passes muster I will be the first one to apologize.
 
Open the door with his head.


It would have to be removed from his posterior first. :rolleyes:


David, please be a responsible adult about all this and quit trying to use people to do your dirty work for you. Just that type of behavior, regardless of this situation with Kelly and Matt, tells me dealing with you is not something I would prefer to engage in.
 
I would like it to go on the record that I was in contact with Kelly during this whole dispute with Repster as she is a personal friend of mine, if Kelly were lying as David claims she is, why then would she tell me of this same situation BEFORE she posted on the forum. While David may indeed have realised the $750 was too much...one of Kelly's complaints before this thread even started was that the guy couldn't even man-up and tell her he changed his mind. In light of the fact that Kelly told me of this siuation and her frustrations in trying to get a hold of this guy for quite a while, BEFORE ever posting to the BOI, I would have to say that she indeed tried to get in touch with him. I posted some ads on Repster and David called me to see how I liked the site(left a message on my cell)when I told Kelly she said she was surprised and that she heard he responded to someone else as well.
Kelly would have nothing to gain by lying to me ahead of posting this thread and as it was she told me she moved the deadline back on posting a few times. She was giving him a few more days to respond but like he did originally on the BOI he did not respond.
Dale
 
Exactly Dale!!! Kelly is an amazing person with a HUGE heart! She does keep personal and business seperate. She rescues animals, rehabs them, and adopts them out (my brother has one and Big Momma, bearded dragon, is amazing now!). Kelly is a very honest person-I can speak from experience. All David had to do was to pick up the phone, dial Kelly's number, and talk to her-better yet email so that way there is a path. BTW David-emails are not as easy to fake as you think they are-I've watched enough Judge Judy to know that emails can make or break a case. I really hope this gets resolved for Kelly's sake and for whatever dignity and creditability David was left. I also asked that my reptster account be cancelled (which it has not) PLUS I emailed David and told him to work this out with Kelly & the BOI (he has NOT emailed me back yet-didn't think he would). Kelly-let me know if you need help on the day of the show.
Catherine Whitfield
 
One other thing to consider with Reptster is your credit card information is not encrypted.

I just went and looked - the billing info is on an https page - I thought that indicated a secure, encrypted connection? Of note, though, is that the entire 16 digit card number is visible once you are on the page.
 
The person who owns this site issued me warning points for making a racist remark in this thread. I haven't read the thread in in awhile and just noticed a private message.
First off saying your last name says it all is not racist..
Wasn't even thinking that when I posted. Had to do with something totally different. What the hell do I know about Polish people anyway that I would want to offend them???
People are always saying black people are always crying racism now a harmless comment that had nothing to do with race is made an issue lol.. Yea I'm black and take a wild guess what my kids are mixed with??
So to the owner get your fact before making assuptions..
I could care less about warning points but at least know what your talking about before calling someone a racist..:yesnod: Now how about waring points for the childish name calling????:shrug01:
Yea I know...:thumbsup:
 
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