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Damn............

As to the SerpenCo issues.... is it possible to keep the doors open and money coming in utilizing help... or maybe some sort of Reptile Business Mentorship (internship) for some local kids / young adults wanting to get into the business. They learn the ropes... and provide you with the labor to keep the business afloat. Im not sure how much you still do by yourself.... I honestly figured you had a crew at this point.

Anyhow... just some of my thoughts.

Sorry, but no, that's not going to happen. Maybe it's just the part of the country I live in, but employees are the biggest headache of all. As my wife says VERY often, we've dumbed the job requirements down as far as they can go, but it STILL is not low enough for most people trying to do the work. Seriously, how tough is it to grasp the concept that something needs to be done EVERY DAY without having to tell the person EVERY DAY to do it? I sincerely wish I had videotaped the interviews we have gone through and some of the subsequent work "ethics" of the majority of the people who have passed through here. Then we could retire comfortably just on the movie rights alone. I have long ago lost count of the number of people when asked if they had any experience with snakes, their response was "Well, I kilt a rattlesnake years ago...." :rolleyes:

Yes, I would LOVE to have several workers who could take up the workload. But the raw material just isn't out there.

Now, granted, this MAY not happen any time real soon, but I have to be cognizant of the fact that sooner or later SOMETHING is going to happen to cause me to be unable to continue with my reptile breeding business. That could be something physically disabling to either myself or my wife, because neither of us can do it alone, even with the two or three part time helpers we normally have each year. Even a relatively minor surgery putting one of us out of the picture for a six week recovery time at the wrong time of year could be enough to put an end to the business. The older we get the more and more likely it is that this WILL happen. So I would be stupid to just ignore that fact and not be thinking about the "what ifs" and try to plan for it.
 
wow.... that actually makes me think I have a chance then.... although you do have your wife helping and its just me here. Im currently housing just shy of 90 snakes and soon to be about 64 lizards.

I really figured you had a crew running the day to day stuff. Its a shame you cant find good help.

Maybe you have already did this.. and I missed it... but what about a book detailing the genetics of producing new morps and such.... maybe an overall book to the reptile business.

just a thought.
 
Rich,

First, I want to say sorry that you are going through this emotional and business decision hell to figure out what to do. With everything you have done for this community (yes, the BOI is the biggest thing), it is not fair that you have to even consider shutting down.

I have a few comments as someone who once posted years ago, and as a fairly newer person to the game. It's early for me after being up several times with the baby last night, so forgive my rambling...

A few years back, I had a big issue with a breeder. I had nowhere to turn to find out what to do, as I was a total newb to purchasing online. Someone mentioned the BOI - I checked it out, and forked up the $10 to post my experience and have access for the year. My issue was important enough to me to do that. I figured "wow, I have access to this WHOLE THING for that little money for an entire year? How cool"...and then became an avid BOI reader from that day forward.

I forgot my user name after awhile, and was actually fairly loyal to a different forum where I was very active. I had a disagreement with the webmaster, and needed to find a new home. I am sure you remember the "whys" of when a group of us came over all at once a few months back. Well, although I was never active on the forums, I ALWAYS read the BOI during my absence from the rest of the site. So, anyhow, I came back, and everything was free, even the BOI. I was a bit surprised. Heck, you could even get into HELL now for free! And the classifieds were free, just about everything was free. I was surprised, and happy, but confused. I was not sure of what the deal was on why you decided to make all these great features free all of a sudden, but went with it, even though I would have been willing to pay my $10 for the BOI again if I had to.

Granted, I say this as someone who has not been able to do a paid membership yet (money has been tight, but now that the show is over, you can expect something from me this week), I think you should reconsider a fee for posting on the BOI, and put one back in place for sure to be able to go to HELL if someone is not willing to do a full paid membership. Integrate those features into a membership level as well (say, if you pay the $25 level, you get them both, but separately it will cost you $10 each without membership). People will more than likely pay the extra $5 to gain some other features if they are already going to pay for the BOI and HELL. Plus it might help stop some of the BS posters over there, and streamline things a bit. People NEED the BOI, and right now it is too easy to abuse. Making it a paid thing will help stop the abuse, as well as give you some income.

The other suggestion I would make is to put some sort of a fee back on the classifieds. As a business person, I expect to have to pay to advertise - I have to on most other sites, and I do it if I need to, why shouldn't I have to here? Why should you not benefit from that as well? Keep it cheap - do your $.50 a day or something like that like you have on banner ads. This can give the advertiser a choice on how long to run the ads without having to do a monthly membership like some other sites (KS for example - what if I have no ads to run this month, I still fork out my $20 if I forget to cancel that month for example...). Make a trade section free, sure, but if you want to sell something, you gotta pay up. Not many sites offer free classifieds, and those that do, honestly, don't get much traffic from what I have seen.

I don't think you can do much more to appease the masses with the banner advertising prices. No one else out there is as cheap and gives you the exposure that Fauna does, plain and simple. Plus the fact that you use those same rates on CS.com makes a big difference too. For me to know that I can run one add on 2 websites for $365 a year is great - to do the same on KS for a year costs me at least $480. As a show promoter, those things are a big deal to me, and I know it is for other business people as well.

The other thing I think might help is for you to do more advertising for the site itself. You even said in the flier post that you have not done the advertising you should. Granted, that's tough because not a lot of sites will allow you to advertise your forums on theirs, but there are ways around it...Do you remember when I asked you about putting up banner ads for my show that might have a sponsor that was a competing website? Your answer was "sure, as long as it's done the right way" in not so many words. Well, have you considered "sponsoring" other businesses or shows and ask them to advertise on their banner ads for you? There are lots of members here, including me, who would love to help you out. A simple text line on their banner and a logo on their website might help. Getting fliers out to shows to the promoters or to vendors that are members here, something. Shows bring in a lot of foot traffic, and it is an easy way to get advertising out there. Even if you have someone design up a cool B&W one (its MUCH cheaper), you can generally get 1000 copies made up for about $45 bucks if you go through a small mom and pop store. Hell, call my printer and have some done up, and for my shows, I'll go pick them up and put them around for nothing. I can pick them up when I pick up mine. I'm sure you can probably make some sort of arrangements with the other show promoters on this site to do the same.

The thing you have to try to remember, no matter how tough this decision is for you, is that the economy sucks right now for everyone. Hell, I started a new show in this money hell we have. One thing I learned though, is that no matter how tight money is, people love their animals, and will not skimp as much on that as they will on other hobbies. In these bad times for everyone, people need something to make them feel good, and for a huge chunk of the world, we get our warm and fuzzies from our herps.

I think it is great (and unfortunately necessary) that you are thinking about what to do when the time comes for SerpenCo. It is something that one day all of us breeders have to think about no matter how heart wrenching (I don't know what I will do when that day comes!). But try not to get yourself too down on the whole thing. You have some great things going for you, and if you can ride it out for a little while, the economy will swing back up, things will start happening again, and you will probably look back on this whole thread and go "what an ass I was to even think I would have to shut down"...maybe not. I certainly hope, for you and the future of Fauna, that it is true.

Now I am off to get you that membership fee...

Kelly Kordek
 
...employees are the biggest headache of all. As my wife says VERY often, we've dumbed the job requirements down as far as they can go, but it STILL is not low enough for most people trying to do the work. Seriously, how tough is it to grasp the concept that something needs to be done EVERY DAY without having to tell the person EVERY DAY to do it? I sincerely wish I had videotaped the interviews we have gone through and some of the subsequent work "ethics" of the majority of the people who have passed through here.

Yes, I would LOVE to have several workers who could take up the workload. But the raw material just isn't out there.

Ain't that the truth!!! It's unreal. I've been self-employed in the floorcovering business for 17yrs and good help is hard to come by. It's so bad that I've made just about every move possible to eliminate the need for hired hands. I'm still self-employed but only take on jobs that I can do on my own. To make up for lost business I've gone into computer build/repair, network administration/support and most recently, by the grace of God, reptile breeding. Now I'm back to square one - I find myself needing help to keep up with my reptile biz.

To get back on topic - I know that sometimes it's necessary to clean up inactive, or unused, memberships and where to draw the line isn't always clear. I've participated in various types of forums, from computer forums, to reptile forums, to political forums. (Though reptiles & politics can be somewhat synonymous, they're not in this case. Ha! Ha!)

Take my membership here for example: I was a registered member for 2yrs before I made my first post (1yr and 10 months, to be more exact). Had my membership been deleted there's a chance that I would've taken offense to it and never re-registered. I'd like to think that I'm more objective & understanding than that but it's possible.

A lil' over a year ago I looked into paid memberships & Good Guy certifications here. I had every intention on coming back to do so once I got better established. I'm ashamed to say that I've gotten sidetracked from it. Rest assured, though, that I'll look into it again over the next few days as I have some free time. (Whatever "free time" is.)

I think Southern Wolf is right in saying that the typical person doesn't want to pay for forums. It's the ol' "There's so many free ones out there" mentality. Personally, I feel that forums should be free for the average user and that it's up to those of us that are seeking these typical forum users as customers to help bear the load.

Rich, I think you've got a good thing going here, and I'm sure that you know what I'm about to say is true, but I'm going to say it for everyone else to see.

You can build the biggest, fanciest shopping center in the county but it's only gonna be as good as it's occupants. In other words, this site is only gonna be as good as it's members make it. Period. It's up to us to generate the traffic by creating good discussions, informative reviews, sound husbandry practices, good advice, etc... Rich can't do it all, nor should he have to.

Rich, you've made it this far. That means that you've got something right going on. Maybe a lil' fine tuning here & there will eventually get it tweaked to perfection. Keep throwing the ideas at us and hang in there. Let us do the rest.

Let's see how many of you can start a good discussion somewhere between now & Friday evening. I'll do my part. Will you?

Just my measley ol' two cents' worth.

Have a good one!
HH
(Mike)
 
Now I am off to get you that membership fee...

Kelly Kordek

It's not much, but I hope it helps...

Also, let me know on getting those fliers out for you at the shows (next one is January 24). As long as you can pay the printing costs, that's all I ask. Maybe even later when things get going, I'll be able to take care of that for you as well.

Smile a bit today, maybe while holding one of those amazing corns or geckos. Warm and fuzzies, man, warm and fuzzies...

Kelly
 
Let me point something else out:

"...work "ethics" of the majority..."

Because it's so poor these days, we have such great need for the BOI. Is that not a shame, or what?

I see that Kelly mentioned possibly bringing back the $10 BOI fee. I hope that Kelly knows I have the greatest respect for her & her opinions but I just wanted to try to offer another view on this.

Personally, I wouldn't mind coughing up $10 for BOI access. However, I'm a bit concerned about people not willing to do so - thereby not informing us of shady dealings/dealers/buyers. How many will get away with their shenanigans due to people not willing to pay to post about it in the BOI?

Later!
Mike
 
Let me point something else out:

"...work "ethics" of the majority..."

Because it's so poor these days, we have such great need for the BOI. Is that not a shame, or what?

I see that Kelly mentioned possibly bringing back the $10 BOI fee. I hope that Kelly knows I have the greatest respect for her & her opinions but I just wanted to try to offer another view on this.

Personally, I wouldn't mind coughing up $10 for BOI access. However, I'm a bit concerned about people not willing to do so - thereby not informing us of shady dealings/dealers/buyers. How many will get away with their shenanigans due to people not willing to pay to post about it in the BOI?

Later!
Mike

Mike, no disrespect seen in what you said, you have a different point of view, that's all. And thinking about it when reading it, you are right. There is an issue of those not able to pay, or just not willing to pay, to have that access. So maybe that is not the best way to go. And you are right, it is such a shame that we even NEED the BOI at all, but we DO need it. We just have to find a way to keep Fauna alive so that it is still there in the end. But I think we also need to find a way to generally bring up traffic to the site overall, as more people will utilize the advertising (especially so cheap!) and take advantage of other features. This is why I mentioned the fliers at shows...I hope other show promoters and vendors will step up and do something in that regards. All it takes is a space on a table to set them out...

It's early for me (I've had 2 hours of sleep), so sometimes my thoughts start out well, but don't ever necessarily end well (or at all LOL).
Kelly
 
I do not post here often but the BOI is a great tool, I will happily give you $25 knowing that I can just make a quick trip to the BOI for info on breeders.

Good luck in everything that happens and hopefully next year I can step up the donation a bit.
 
Just a couple of real quick comments.... (been out running errands all morning. My backup hard drive died, then the one I bought earlier in the week (Seagate) died as well. Oh yeah, got a shipment to pack, too...)

Anyway, I tried that with requiring paid memberships to post on the BOI. Personally, I felt (and still do) that this is necessary to gain credibility within the BOI. As it is now, ANYONE can register using a false identity and post what they like using that registration. There is absolutely nothing at all to stop it. So in reality anyone can post whatever they like regardless of the truth, able to hurt someone's reputation with no recourse. Yeah, MAYBE someone could do the footwork to try to verify that such a person is real or not, but I'm certainly not going to do it. And I would wager neither would anyone else. Not when someone can register as many logins as they wanted and burn someone out within 48 hours trying to keep a lid on it. Nope, I tried that method to not only raise the credibility level of every post made on the BOI, but also as a method to get the BOI to pay for itself by the people who recognize it's benefit. I (silly me) thought enough people would certainly be willing to pay that modest fee in order to keep it up and running. But facts proved me to be wrong, and I withdrew that requirement. So we all have to live with the resultant warts. No, I have no intention of trying to prove myself wrong again.

As for charging for the classifieds. I did that for a year from March, 2007 thru March, 2008. Traffic virtually died here. And it still has not recovered to the levels it was at prior to that change. This was done more at the prompting of many other people rather then my own decision that this was best to do. I believe my statement at the time of implementation was that I was going to listen to what other people were recommending, and give it a try. So I did, and it proved to be disastrous. Not wanting to say I told anyone so, but I HAVE stated many times in the past that I felt that charging for the use of the classifieds here would spell the doom of this site. And it pretty nearly did. Or maybe it did and I just don't know it yet. The site certainly took a BIG hit because of it.

So no, regardless of what some well intentioned members may suggest along these lines, I have had it forcibly proven to me that charging for the basic services this site has to offer just will not fly with most people. I have seen first hand the decisions people made that were boiled down to "it has to be free or I'm going elsewhere". I doubt that I will ever see any evidence that will change my mind about this. Matter of fact, I can't even imagine what sort of evidence that would be.

Well, got to get to work.

Thanks for the thoughts, everyone. I really don't know what the future holds here, but I will not leave anyone holding the bag. That's why I am discussing this NOW while I have the luxury of some time.
 
Just a couple of real quick comments.... (been out running errands all morning. My backup hard drive died, then the one I bought earlier in the week (Seagate) died as well. Oh yeah, got a shipment to pack, too...)

Anyway, I tried that with requiring paid memberships to post on the BOI. Personally, I felt (and still do) that this is necessary to gain credibility within the BOI. As it is now, ANYONE can register using a false identity and post what they like using that registration. There is absolutely nothing at all to stop it. So in reality anyone can post whatever they like regardless of the truth, able to hurt someone's reputation with no recourse. Yeah, MAYBE someone could do the footwork to try to verify that such a person is real or not, but I'm certainly not going to do it. And I would wager neither would anyone else. Not when someone can register as many logins as they wanted and burn someone out within 48 hours trying to keep a lid on it. Nope, I tried that method to not only raise the credibility level of every post made on the BOI, but also as a method to get the BOI to pay for itself by the people who recognize it's benefit. I (silly me) thought enough people would certainly be willing to pay that modest fee in order to keep it up and running. But facts proved me to be wrong, and I withdrew that requirement. So we all have to live with the resultant warts. No, I have no intention of trying to prove myself wrong again.

As for charging for the classifieds. I did that for a year from March, 2007 thru March, 2008. Traffic virtually died here. And it still has not recovered to the levels it was at prior to that change. This was done more at the prompting of many other people rather then my own decision that this was best to do. I believe my statement at the time of implementation was that I was going to listen to what other people were recommending, and give it a try. So I did, and it proved to be disastrous. Not wanting to say I told anyone so, but I HAVE stated many times in the past that I felt that charging for the use of the classifieds here would spell the doom of this site. And it pretty nearly did. Or maybe it did and I just don't know it yet. The site certainly took a BIG hit because of it.

So no, regardless of what some well intentioned members may suggest along these lines, I have had it forcibly proven to me that charging for the basic services this site has to offer just will not fly with most people. I have seen first hand the decisions people made that were boiled down to "it has to be free or I'm going elsewhere". I doubt that I will ever see any evidence that will change my mind about this. Matter of fact, I can't even imagine what sort of evidence that would be.

Well, got to get to work.

Thanks for the thoughts, everyone. I really don't know what the future holds here, but I will not leave anyone holding the bag. That's why I am discussing this NOW while I have the luxury of some time.


Ok..this is one option, because asking for donations is too "iffy" you may get enough, you may not.

The older heads (count me in) we could all donate a percentage of how much it costs to run this place if the price were right, in exchange for some perks...what kind of perks? I don't know.

We could do this every year....call us sponsors and provide free advertising?
 
Anyway, I tried that with requiring paid memberships to post on the BOI. Personally, I felt (and still do) that this is necessary to gain credibility within the BOI. As it is now, ANYONE can register using a false identity and post what they like using that registration. There is absolutely nothing at all to stop it. So in reality anyone can post whatever they like regardless of the truth, able to hurt someone's reputation with no recourse. Yeah, MAYBE someone could do the footwork to try to verify that such a person is real or not, but I'm certainly not going to do it. And I would wager neither would anyone else. Not when someone can register as many logins as they wanted and burn someone out within 48 hours trying to keep a lid on it. Nope, I tried that method to not only raise the credibility level of every post made on the BOI, but also as a method to get the BOI to pay for itself by the people who recognize it's benefit. I (silly me) thought enough people would certainly be willing to pay that modest fee in order to keep it up and running. But facts proved me to be wrong, and I withdrew that requirement. So we all have to live with the resultant warts. No, I have no intention of trying to prove myself wrong again.

Well, I guess it is one of those things that can't be turned back, but I for one do not think you were silly for believing people might fork out a few bucks to be able to post there.

As for charging for the classifieds. I did that for a year from March, 2007 thru March, 2008. Traffic virtually died here. And it still has not recovered to the levels it was at prior to that change. This was done more at the prompting of many other people rather then my own decision that this was best to do. I believe my statement at the time of implementation was that I was going to listen to what other people were recommending, and give it a try. So I did, and it proved to be disastrous. Not wanting to say I told anyone so, but I HAVE stated many times in the past that I felt that charging for the use of the classifieds here would spell the doom of this site. And it pretty nearly did. Or maybe it did and I just don't know it yet. The site certainly took a BIG hit because of it.

You are the one who knows the traffic and the success or failure of doing that, I guess it just bugs me that, as business people, people EXPECT the forums/sites we visit to have free advertising. I guess I could see where some kid who has 1 or 2 animals to sell might have issues, but if people are willing to pay for other things to make money, I just feel they should be willing to pay a small fee to advertise their animals.

So no, regardless of what some well intentioned members may suggest along these lines, I have had it forcibly proven to me that charging for the basic services this site has to offer just will not fly with most people. I have seen first hand the decisions people made that were boiled down to "it has to be free or I'm going elsewhere". I doubt that I will ever see any evidence that will change my mind about this. Matter of fact, I can't even imagine what sort of evidence that would be.

Again, you are the one with the numbers, so you know how things work and how they don't.

Thanks for the thoughts, everyone. I really don't know what the future holds here, but I will not leave anyone holding the bag. That's why I am discussing this NOW while I have the luxury of some time.

I think if you can start anywhere, it starts with trying to advertise more. This will drive traffic here. More traffic here means more reason for people to use the advertising services, which means more money. More traffic also means more credibility to the site, and hopefully things like the discussion forums will be used more, which brings more advertisers...you know the circle. Your best advertising is done by word of mouth by your own members since most other sites will not allow other forums to be advertised on theirs (which I understand). I still say start out with some fliers at shows with either vendors or just the show promoters...

Listen, get me something in B&W as a flyer. I have already received a request to cover the cost of 1000 fliers from an anonymous person (who will stay anonymous per their request), and I will put them out at my show in January. After the January show, I will cover the cost of 1000 fliers per show. I am also going to be talking to a few other show promoters who use this site and benefit from it about doing the same...1000 fliers at say, 3 or 4 shows around the country, 3 to 5 shows a year each...that's a lot of advertising. I think it is worth a shot, don't you? At this point, anything is IMO

Kelly
 
Rich... I cant make any guarentees... but Im a Mod over at another site... and Im in pretty good with the owner.... If you can get me a banner for the BOI (have it just say BOI or Board of Inquiry....not really advertising the main site)... then I may be able to get it in the rotation on that forum.
 
If I should find that I need to just shut this site down completely and get on with my life


Many, many of us cherish this site and have spent long hours here reading, making friends, having spats, and learning about reptiles, and about people.
If you should need to shut it down it will remain in memory and has by its existence changed the reptile world and more. Your devotion to freedom, especially the freedom to allow people to voice their experiences with businesses that have done them wrong, has made a difference to all of us.

Since you and I are about the same age, I empathize with your concern about the future. You need to do what is best for you. There is no question that many of us would help as long as you keep the doors open here, but ultimately the choice of how to spend your future years is a choice for you, and your wife, to make.

With a recession (or depression) possibly looming near it behooves us all to make careful choices for the present and for the future. But I thank you for the past, and for the years and many hours of effort you have given us.
 
Listen, get me something in B&W as a flyer. I have already received a request to cover the cost of 1000 fliers from an anonymous person (who will stay anonymous per their request), and I will put them out at my show in January. After the January show, I will cover the cost of 1000 fliers per show. I am also going to be talking to a few other show promoters who use this site and benefit from it about doing the same...1000 fliers at say, 3 or 4 shows around the country, 3 to 5 shows a year each...that's a lot of advertising. I think it is worth a shot, don't you? At this point, anything is IMO

Kelly

Stephanie Kunder has already done a bang up job creating a flier for this site -> http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/flier/fc_flier.pdf (be careful when you click on that link. It's a HUGE file)

It's in color and looks VERY nice, I think. I have it on my TODO list to take this file to my printer and have him make up a bunch of fliers for me, but it just hasn't risen to the top of the list yet. I know I should feel like I need to make this a higher priority, but I have a BUNCH of baby corn snakes hatched out that need my attention more right now. As anyone who works with live animals knows, they ALWAYS tend to be the top priority when you have a choice in the matter.
 
Many, many of us cherish this site and have spent long hours here reading, making friends, having spats, and learning about reptiles, and about people.
If you should need to shut it down it will remain in memory and has by its existence changed the reptile world and more. Your devotion to freedom, especially the freedom to allow people to voice their experiences with businesses that have done them wrong, has made a difference to all of us.

Since you and I are about the same age, I empathize with your concern about the future. You need to do what is best for you. There is no question that many of us would help as long as you keep the doors open here, but ultimately the choice of how to spend your future years is a choice for you, and your wife, to make.

With a recession (or depression) possibly looming near it behooves us all to make careful choices for the present and for the future. But I thank you for the past, and for the years and many hours of effort you have given us.

Thank you, Lucille. I think the unpredictable nature of "tomorrow" is what gets us all out of bed each morning to see what will happen...... :)
 
Stephanie Kunder has already done a bang up job creating a flier for this site -> http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/flier/fc_flier.pdf (be careful when you click on that link. It's a HUGE file)

It's in color and looks VERY nice, I think. I have it on my TODO list to take this file to my printer and have him make up a bunch of fliers for me, but it just hasn't risen to the top of the list yet. I know I should feel like I need to make this a higher priority, but I have a BUNCH of baby corn snakes hatched out that need my attention more right now. As anyone who works with live animals knows, they ALWAYS tend to be the top priority when you have a choice in the matter.


Is there any way that flier can become a webpage? With functioning links. I agree, it is very nice. I'd like to ad it to my site somewhere if there were active links. Just a thought.
 
Is there any way that flier can become a webpage? With functioning links. I agree, it is very nice. I'd like to ad it to my site somewhere if there were active links. Just a thought.

I'm not sure what you mean. That page is simply a graphic file that displays a page sized image suitable for printing. It wasn't intended to be an active web document. I'm sure I could reduce it in size and make it a jpg or gif file, but quite possibly the text would no longer be readable if reduced to a reasonably sized graphic for inclusion on a web page.
 
Is there any way that flier can become a webpage? With functioning links. I agree, it is very nice. I'd like to ad it to my site somewhere if there were active links. Just a thought.

That's the same thing I was suggesting in the beginning (I am computer illiterate). A link to the flyer or imbed it on the webpage (both i don't know how to do).
 
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