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Info In response to Natalie Beacom

before that post she had not talked with the breeder..after finding out who the breeder was and contacting him he said the are jungle and the parents are jungle...why would they not be? anyway we sold them locally to friends for a hell of a deal...

I would like proof of that exchange with the breeder. Also, jungles are a co-dominant trait in boas. Even if both parents were jungles 25% of the offspring would still be 100% normal. Do you know how you can tell? You look at them. Those were normals.
 
So you admit you lied when I said I was contacting HP to let them know they have a racist working for them.

What is it with you two? What is this fixation with you two telling lies?

As stated before...I do work for HP - My title is Level II Technical Support

I do work for another local business as their network admin

either way i dont need to prove my employment to anyone

And why am i on the pc all the time...HMMM i work with computers all day...go figure
 
LOL Janitor.... not that there is anything wrong with a man doing an honest days work for a living. Its just kinda funny given these two and the lies that this may actually be the case.

I have never met a systems administrator who could't spell. Where did you get your degree?
 
I would like proof of that exchange with the breeder. Also, jungles are a co-dominant trait in boas. Even if both parents were jungles 25% of the offspring would still be 100% normal. Do you know how you can tell? You look at them. Those were normals.


yeah ill admit i dont know much about blood lines and all that with snakes. I know computers and cars.....i dont need to post proof of that..even if i did post the emails someone would just state i typed them up...not going there
 
I would like proof of that exchange with the breeder. Also, jungles are a co-dominant trait in boas. Even if both parents were jungles 25% of the offspring would still be 100% normal. Do you know how you can tell? You look at them. Those were normals.

also the snakes were sold to local people for 100.00 each...not what you would sale a jungle for by far....
 
Your wife's ad claims they were bought for $1500 each! That's a LOT of money to lose if it's true that you A) bought them for that much or B) sold them for so little.
 
who said you have to spell perfect to know how to build and network computers....
Seriously, "building" computers and even simple networking is child's play these days. There's way too many ignorant people that claim to be computer professionals these days. But David's point was that it used to take half a brain to be computer literate which also meant you had enough intelligence to formulate even the simplest of sentences and understand the difference of words such as "their" instead of "there". But as I already stated, those days of having to have a brain to use a computer are long gone. Now anybody with enough intelligence to turn on a light switch and hen peck on a keyboard can claim to be anything their delusional mentality wishes, especially when they falsely believe that they are anonymously hidden behind the keyboard in the comforts of their home.

But I have to love how you decide to skirt my post enquiry about you and/or your wife being racists. I'll take by your omission to reply to my post that it is an acknowledgment from you that you and/or your wife are indeed racists and that you stand behind your derogatory comments against black people. :ack2:

So I'll ask one more time, do you and your wife love all people regardless of the color of their skin or not?
 
Seriously, "building" computers and even simple networking is child's play these days. There's way too many ignorant people that claim to be computer professionals these days. But David's point was that it used to take half a brain to be computer literate which also meant you had enough intelligence to formulate even the simplest of sentences and understand the difference of words such as "their" instead of "there". But as I already stated, those days of having to have a brain to use a computer are long gone. Now anybody with enough intelligence to turn on a light switch and hen peck on a keyboard can claim to be anything their delusional mentality wishes, especially when they falsely believe that they are anonymously hidden behind the keyboard in the comforts of their home.

But I have to love how you decide to skirt my post enquiry about you and/or your wife being racists. I'll take by your omission to reply to my post that it is an acknowledgment from you that you and/or your wife are indeed racists and that you stand behind your derogatory comments against black people. :ack2:

So I'll ask one more time, do you and your wife love all people regardless of the color of their skin or not?


You are correct...as far as computers go im Microsoft Certified, A+ Certified, & HP Certified.....I know you or someone will call me a liar but i did go to school for these certs. regardless of that its going to be hard to prove that were not racists due to what was said.....But i will say that i do not judge people by the color of their skin nor does my wife. If my daughter wanted to date a person from another race when she is old enough i would not reject or try to forbid it....i would welcome it because to me were all the same.....in fact i vote for President Elect Barrack Obama .....

Because of the words i chose to use it made me like like a moron...ill admit it...and there is no excuse for it...
 
I know you or someone will call me a liar but i did go to school for these certs.
How do you profess to know me or my intentions other than stating what has been said here? You obviously lack tact and just fire a shotgun into a crowd hoping to hit your intended victim. Wunderbar!

If you took the time to review everything that has been said in both threads as to what I've specifically written, I seriously questioned Chuck when he made the assertion that it was you in that Albino Burm pic as well as stating that it wasn't necessarily a lie stated from your wife and you that you could possibly work at HP and be a network admin elsewhere. So, before you go making brash assumptions about anybody and/or everybody here, think very hard about who you are making those assumptive accusations towards. I think that if you follow my posts, you'll quickly realize that I don't flat out assume anybody is a liar unless it can be proven based upon facts at hand. But I will say that credibility is an entirely different issue as well which you and your wife are seriously lacking. I don't find it hard to believe that you might hold certain certs. A+ certs are very common in the IT field and I've yet to ascertain that half the people holding them still even really know enough about computers to proclaim themselves as anything close to an expert. Now, the M$ certs are a different thing, and being that you should know there is a huge assembly of differing M$ certs, ambiguity on your part just claiming to be M$ certified means little to nothing. I claim ignorance on HP certs, so I will not try to extrapolate any assumption on those.

Envius said:
regardless of that its going to be hard to prove that were not racists due to what was said.....But i will say that i do not judge people by the color of their skin nor does my wife. If my daughter wanted to date a person from another race when she is old enough i would not reject or try to forbid it....i would welcome it because to me were all the same.....in fact i vote for President Elect Barrack Obama .....

Because of the words i chose to use it made me like like a moron...ill admit it...and there is no excuse for it...

Ok then. Thanks for clearing the air on the racist part of your debacle. Maybe, hopefully, next time you will think very deeply about the words and ideas that formulate inside your head before issuing them forth in public. It's easy to talk a lot of crap, but it's very difficult to live it down, especially in these wonderful days of the internet.

While I do wish you or your family ill will, the ill will that does exist here and so many of the other forums out there was created by your wife with you having a helping hand in it here. I truly hope that this has been a learning experience for the both of you and that you can mature beyond this point of blaming others for the damage that your wife and you have collectively created here. I don't think anybody here is above letting you peacefully move on if you truly own up to what has been done here. I know you have tried in your own funny way. But the one thing I've also failed to see is that while you seem to be the one apologizing for your wifes actions and even some of the misconceptions you yourself have created, not once have I seen, unless you can show me otherwise, that you have stated that throughout all of this that your wife has admitted blame and that she sincerely apologizes in all of the lies and filth she has stirred here. You can apologize all you want for your wife, but if she is non-apologetic about her own actions, what you say or apologize for here means very little to most of us considering most of the damage done was by her and her alone. She needs to issue a public statement in her own words admitting to all the lies and apologizing for the wrongs she has committed.
 
Liars, liars, LIARS. That's all these two are.

You lied about harassing e-mails/phone calls. You LIED about running a legal non-profit organization. You lied about not selling animals. You lied about your iguanas. You lied about having "Not for SALE" and "we are 501c3 certified" on your website.

NEWS FLASH. If you're so computer savvy, you would KNOW that you can't lie about things such as what you have previously posted on your website.

Look, I get that you are standing up for your wife, which is great because that is what you're supposed to do! But she also needs to realize that this stuff ISN'T OKAY. Maybe in your household this kind of stuff flies, but in the real world, people don't stand for this BS. That would be why your wife is bashed on EVERY FORUM. She needs to come back down to reality. Personally, I think you have a better grip than her. Just pull her back down. For the love of god.
 
Because of the words i chose to use it made me like like a moron

Not a moron, a racist. Which is way worse.

Computers may be your specialty though damage control is not. To someone skimming through or even an in-depth reader, it appears you or your wife are in pretty well with the SWMO herp society. And if I was relocating to that area and/or was interested in joining I would pass it up on the assumption the herp society doubled as a Klan meet. Guilt by association. Wether it was said by a member or a hang-around, it can lump you all together. And you can deny it, but if it wasn't in there it wouldn't have come out the way it did. I'll believe you on the lightning incident, that your wife has good intentions on the animals and that she really does care for them, and the jungle boa issue,(you may have gotten scammed by the breeder); but don't insult one's intelligence. Especially one who has grown up around racism and gone knuckle to face with aryan #@&*!s. If its' in there, it'll show. So I will not believe you on the "i'm not racist I voted Obama" claim. But as you mentioned, ya'll don't care what we think to begin with.
But anyway man. My advice is to be careful who you associate with and mention in posts. This may put a bad taste in peoples mouths about the herp society and the list of names given out in one of these threads. I know if my name was given by a friend like that, said friend and I would have some issues. Be careful who you may take down with you. I'm sure those are probably good people.

Theres' been apoplogies and acceptance of those apoplogies. Nobody's pissed me off, so I'm good. Just have severe issues with racists that's all. That and no one has brought up the affect this will have on people the claim to associate with.
If you stop posting I'm sure there will be a few more posts and this will become another past thread. You've had the power to end this all along.
 
Aaron-
The person you have offended most with your racial slurs has accepted your apologies, so I have nothing to say about that. It isn't my fight. It doesn't matter if I believe you or not, so I won't address it further than that.

HOWEVER...there are still several extremely valid issues at hand. Namely, your wife's abuse of the term "rescue", your wifes, CONTINUED abuse of the word "rescue", the website that claims, still, that animals which were sold at market value were adopted, and the continued lies to support your wife's "right" to do these things.

Listen...it doesn't matter if she broke any laws. What she did is entirely unethical, and as such, she should cease and desist ALL activity and referances to her operations as a "rescue". The website should be pulled, her signature on all of her forums should be changed, and she should IMMEDIATELY issue a public admission of guilt and apology for her outrageous actions. That is absolutely the VERY LEAST that she should be doing at this point.

Yet, in all of your defense of her on this forum...she has done nothing of the sort. In fact...while you admit she lied, you continue to justify her actions as reasonable simply because they may not be technically illegal.

Stop. Please. And do the right thing...
 
How do you profess to know me or my intentions other than stating what has been said here? You obviously lack tact and just fire a shotgun into a crowd hoping to hit your intended victim. Wunderbar!

If you took the time to review everything that has been said in both threads as to what I've specifically written, I seriously questioned Chuck when he made the assertion that it was you in that Albino Burm pic as well as stating that it wasn't necessarily a lie stated from your wife and you that you could possibly work at HP and be a network admin elsewhere. So, before you go making brash assumptions about anybody and/or everybody here, think very hard about who you are making those assumptive accusations towards. I think that if you follow my posts, you'll quickly realize that I don't flat out assume anybody is a liar unless it can be proven based upon facts at hand. But I will say that credibility is an entirely different issue as well which you and your wife are seriously lacking. I don't find it hard to believe that you might hold certain certs. A+ certs are very common in the IT field and I've yet to ascertain that half the people holding them still even really know enough about computers to proclaim themselves as anything close to an expert. Now, the M$ certs are a different thing, and being that you should know there is a huge assembly of differing M$ certs, ambiguity on your part just claiming to be M$ certified means little to nothing. I claim ignorance on HP certs, so I will not try to extrapolate any assumption on those.



Ok then. Thanks for clearing the air on the racist part of your debacle. Maybe, hopefully, next time you will think very deeply about the words and ideas that formulate inside your head before issuing them forth in public. It's easy to talk a lot of crap, but it's very difficult to live it down, especially in these wonderful days of the internet.

While I do wish you or your family ill will, the ill will that does exist here and so many of the other forums out there was created by your wife with you having a helping hand in it here. I truly hope that this has been a learning experience for the both of you and that you can mature beyond this point of blaming others for the damage that your wife and you have collectively created here. I don't think anybody here is above letting you peacefully move on if you truly own up to what has been done here. I know you have tried in your own funny way. But the one thing I've also failed to see is that while you seem to be the one apologizing for your wifes actions and even some of the misconceptions you yourself have created, not once have I seen, unless you can show me otherwise, that you have stated that throughout all of this that your wife has admitted blame and that she sincerely apologizes in all of the lies and filth she has stirred here. You can apologize all you want for your wife, but if she is non-apologetic about her own actions, what you say or apologize for here means very little to most of us considering most of the damage done was by her and her alone. She needs to issue a public statement in her own words admitting to all the lies and apologizing for the wrongs she has committed.


You are right..i was wrong to reply to your statement in that fashion. I do remember you making those reply's and i thank you for it.
You are definitely right about those holding the A+ not knowing much due to it being a very common entry level cert. You can have a cert and still not know what your doing. I personally have been in the tech field and A+ since 2001....My current Microsoft cery is MCP which is Microsoft Certified Professional....Im currently working on MCSA and MCSE..just a test shy of MCSA...but with the change in windows OS lately and windows 7 coming out next December the changed the tests around and i decided to wait to get the certs that involve windows 7.... HP cert is just that...im certified by hp to work on HP computers....nothing really fancy there


My wife would get on here and apologize but she has a way of saying things that dont make sense...i honestly am not letting her on here....i dont think her saying she was wrong would do alot....i could be wrong though
 
Aaron-
The person you have offended most with your racial slurs has accepted your apologies, so I have nothing to say about that. It isn't my fight. It doesn't matter if I believe you or not, so I won't address it further than that.

HOWEVER...there are still several extremely valid issues at hand. Namely, your wife's abuse of the term "rescue", your wifes, CONTINUED abuse of the word "rescue", the website that claims, still, that animals which were sold at market value were adopted, and the continued lies to support your wife's "right" to do these things.

Listen...it doesn't matter if she broke any laws. What she did is entirely unethical, and as such, she should cease and desist ALL activity and referances to her operations as a "rescue". The website should be pulled, her signature on all of her forums should be changed, and she should IMMEDIATELY issue a public admission of guilt and apology for her outrageous actions. That is absolutely the VERY LEAST that she should be doing at this point.

Yet, in all of your defense of her on this forum...she has done nothing of the sort. In fact...while you admit she lied, you continue to justify her actions as reasonable simply because they may not be technically illegal.

Stop. Please. And do the right thing...


the page is gone...the signatures are being worked on. i am not justifying any of her actions. i and her know she lied ...now i have to find out why she lied.

and her name is banned from this site so she can no longer get on her to publicly apologize ..i could let her do it under my name...but some would say its just me ...
 
My wife would get on here and apologize but she has a way of saying things that dont make sense

No comment.

....i dont think her saying she was wrong would do alot....i could be wrong though

You'd be surprised how far a genuine, heartfelt apology could go. I say try it. Worst that could happen is we all still choose to disbelieve her and either way, you can just leave this forum in the dust behind you.
 
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