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Bad Guy Howling gale bearded dragons

Originally Posted by sjsexotics
this is my last email from nicole that she asked I post

[email protected] to me
show details 9:18 PM (24 minutes ago)

Please let them know that you got a partial refund and you agreed that you would return the $75 if needed

Also if you can let them know threatening my business is not intelligent that is illegal. I wont post on the BOI anymore as they went out of control with the threats to me; if they want to see real photo shopped pictures tell them to look at Blood Banks dragons for sale.
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"please let them know that you got a partial refund and you agreed that you would return the $75 if needed"
Translation: Here's a miserly $75.00 I got pressured into refunding you, so make sure you make me look good when you post you got it. And by the way, make sure everyone knows I expect it back if needed. If needed?

"Also if you can let them know threatening my business is not intelligent that is illegal."
Translation: What other lame tactic can I take to try to intimidate people into believing that I actually know what I am talking about?"
PS, Nicole .. given the PM's that Jammie posted, it looks like you are the only one who threatened anyone's business ... all that "my attorney", "my vet" BS. Ya know? How intelligent is that?
Not to mention the legality of misrepresenting your product, Nicole ... you call that intelligent?

"I won't post on the BOI anymore as they went out of control with the threats to me .."
Translation: I can't post on this thread any longer because I've been thoroughly busted and all my excuses & lies used up. It's just exhausing!
PS, Nicole ... no one THREATENED you here. You are the only one who threatened anyone with your "vet" and your "attorney" junk

"if they want to see real photo shopped pictures tell them to look at Blood Banks dragons for sale"
Translation: *&&%^$#, I gotta find yet another breeder to deflect attention to ... who else can I try to steer the thread/attention to?"

I'm glad you got at least $75.00 back Sheena, though I do think you deserve more.
 
I think I deserve more to since I am out a red dragon and money but at this point I will take what I can get a little is better then nothing I wish this had a better outcome

and by no means am I taking this refund and saying that the dragon is worth that amount I only excepted that because that was all I was going to get
 
Whatever. He mentioned the kids, not me. You boneheads need to get back to the matter at hand, which is Nicole at Howling Gale Dragons rips people off with no remorse.
 
sjsexotics said:
I think I deserve more to since I am out a red dragon and money but at this point I will take what I can get a little is better then nothing I wish this had a better outcome

and by no means am I taking this refund and saying that the dragon is worth that amount I only excepted that because that was all I was going to get
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You got such a raw deal man.By any chance have you gotten it checked by your vet?Just to make sure she's clean.
I want to thank you for bringing this here & drawing attention to the altered pictures.Who knows how many more people she may have fooled?
 
Sharpshooter said:
Whatever. He mentioned the kids, not me. You boneheads need to get back to the matter at hand, which is Nicole at Howling Gale Dragons rips people off with no remorse.
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1)What I mentioned about my step kids is that they would NEVER treat any customer like this. You, however, should NEVER bring them up in any conversation you have, whether it be with me, their mother, or yourself.

2)We "boneheads" have rarely strayed from the topic at hand, unless you post of course.

3)You should follow your OWN advice regarding the matter at hand.
 
StrictlyExotics said:
1)What I mentioned about my step kids is that they would NEVER treat any customer like this. You, however, should NEVER bring them up in any conversation you have, whether it be with me, their mother, or yourself.

2)We "boneheads" have rarely strayed from the topic at hand, unless you post of course.

3)You should follow your OWN advice regarding the matter at hand.
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Well, if you don't want your stepkids included in a conversation, then common sense would dictate that you don't mention them in your dialog...
 
sjsexotics said:
I think I deserve more to since I am out a red dragon and money but at this point I will take what I can get a little is better then nothing I wish this had a better outcome

and by no means am I taking this refund and saying that the dragon is worth that amount I only excepted that because that was all I was going to get
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Sheena,

I hope you can get your Red dragon soon. There are tons of great dealers on here that can help you with that, and wont treat you the same way. I wouldnt be surprised if some even step up and make you great deals because of this.
 
Definately

I just wish I had some reds this season (no reds adults as of right now) I'd send one her way for the cost of shipping no doubt!!! Sheena is a very nice women and I enjoyed the buisness I did with her and the girl I got from her is fat, active and super healthy just thrives in her enclosure climbing up and down her rocks/logs and shes 2yrs old!!!!

Jeff wyatt
 
sjsexotics said:
I think I deserve more to since I am out a red dragon and money but at this point I will take what I can get a little is better then nothing I wish this had a better outcome

and by no means am I taking this refund and saying that the dragon is worth that amount I only excepted that because that was all I was going to get
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You do deserve more. Its a shame that your losing money on an animal that you wouldn't have bought if the picture wasnt tampered with. An i know what you mean about taking what you can get. Cause no matter what is said on the b.o.i. Thats not gonna get your money back. So your still at the mercy of Nicole's corrupt business. i am glad you got something back, just sorry you didnt get what you deserved.
 
yes if anyone has nice dragons to show me feel free to email [email protected] with really pics lol

as for the dragon she is in QT and is healthy as far as I can tell she will stay in qt for a few months though it was sujested by nicole to put one of my females in with her to help her color up due to stress ( that she does not have)
 
sjsexotics said:
yes if anyone has nice dragons to show me feel free to email [email protected] with really pics lol

as for the dragon she is in QT and is healthy as far as I can tell she will stay in qt for a few months though it was sujested by nicole to put one of my females in with her to help her color up due to stress ( that she does not have)
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I know that you know quarantine procedures, but I totally would ignore anything/suggestions from Nicole at this point, I would ensure that the animal was healthy and attempt to sell it as a Pet quality dragon to recuperate some of my money. Under no circumstances would I give/ship it back to Nicole even if she refunded the whole amount...considering what she said about her VET...it's just not a valid option as she has proven herself corrupt and amoral

–adjective
2.having no moral standards, restraints, or principles; unaware of or indifferent to questions of right or wrong: a completely amoral person.

It's entirely possible that if the dragon later expires she will attempt to blame it on your animal husbandry. .....

Good luck!
 
Sheena,I would have a vet run @ least a fecal soon.This way if her dragon has anything she cannot blame you.
Nicole keeps her dragons in QT,but wants you to ignore that important process,just to prove out "color" on a dragon that obviously doesn't have said color.
That find by Corky just blew her claim of ignorance of computer skills thing outta the water & Laura proved she lied in saying her pics aren't altered.It obviously isn't the "new camera", when she just recently got the camera & has altered photos in ads from 7 months ago.
This is unbelievable.
 
shlages said:
Sheena,I would have a vet run @ least a fecal soon.This way if her dragon has anything she cannot blame you.
Nicole keeps her dragons in QT,but wants you to ignore that important process,just to prove out "color" on a dragon that obviously doesn't have said color.
That find by Corky just blew her claim of ignorance of computer skills thing outta the water & Laura proved she lied in saying her pics aren't altered.It obviously isn't the "new camera", when she just recently got the camera & has altered photos in ads from 7 months ago.
This is unbelievable.
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Get a fecal done. and dont put it in with another dragon! how dumb is that. Keep it quarantined! next thing you know it will have parasites and she will blame that on you, for putting your dragon in the same cage with the new one...
At this point i wouldn't listen to anything Nicole has to say. You got all that your gonna get out of this crappy deal. Nicole doesnt have any extra info that can help you anyway. Any questions on anything else ask a PROFESSIONAL or an dragon breeder that sellers there animals for exactly what they are.
Its quite obvious your tired of getting jerked around. I dont have many red babies, but when i do i will send you one. I do have a decent red double het but there only two weeks old. if your interested PM me. I wont charge you nothing more than shipping charge.:D Once again i am REALLY sorry for your SH*^y transaction with Nicole..:(
 
And what's up with the constant bashing of other breeders?Unethical.
I'm actually surprised that Ed didn't chime in on here @ all.I guess even he couldn't save her from herself this time.
 
So is she gonna be aloud to keep posting pics of photoshoped,and mis- represented animals on here..If so,I just dont understand how...I hope that someone finally bans this no good breeder so people stop getting screwed..When is enough finally enough around here?
 
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