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Bad Guy Nicole Norton/Howlinn gale dragons,Bad guy very bad guy.

Heres the score card. :)

Nicole owes me $1105.00 for stuff I sold her on credit.

She has an adult male yellow italian leatherback that belongs to me. she made an offer here on the BOPI to send him back if I paid her $150.00 so I paid it.

She receives the money then says if I will pay $150.00 I will pay $300.00

So I ignore her, bout 30 minutes later she emails then says she will accept $200.00 to ship him back.

Here on fauna when someone says they will accept this or that we expect them to follow thru. I have seen others such as Heide get beat up for going back on their word.

I'm not unreasonable, she is producing hundreds of baby dragons right now she can pay in dragons if she really wants to resolve this mess. the shot she took about me keeping dirty dragons or how ever she said it was uncalled for and untrue. my dragons are kept spotless.

Ed,,,,,,no one cares..You both have ripped off tons of people...For the love of god why cant you two go become farmers or somthing??..What goes around comes around..You and Nicole should give up dragons and delete your accounts here..seriously no one can believe either one of you,and you both make me sick....
 
Nicole is another 1 that boasts that she only sells what she produces, the first 14 lot of Leucistic crosses I sold her was so she had something to resell.

For the record I sell what I produce and I also have bought dragons to resell in the past.:)
 
why ARE YOU CONSTANTLY AVOIDING QUESTIONS HERE>? Just post proof otherwise this tread isn't going according to what the boi is for.
 
Ed,,,,,,no one cares..You both have ripped off tons of people...For the love of god why cant you two go become farmers or somthing??..What goes around comes around..You and Nicole should give up dragons and delete your accounts here..seriously no one can believe either one of you,and you both make me sick....

Your rude and very wrong, I have never ripped off anyone.

Why the personal attack?:shrug01:
 
Heres the score card. :)

Here's the score: 0 - 0.

Here on fauna when someone says they will accept this or that we expect them to follow thru. I have seen others such as Heide get beat up for going back on their word.

Here on fauna when someone says something the need e-mail Proof to believe the things that come out of some peoples mouth. Especially yours and Nicoles.

the shot she took about me keeping dirty dragons or how ever she said it was uncalled for and untrue. my dragons are kept spotless.

The only shot i see is the truth, hurts doesn't it.
I think we get a good idea of the care of your animals by the previous dead photos and the 2 bottles of Albon you keep on hand. :yesnod:
 
why ARE YOU CONSTANTLY AVOIDING QUESTIONS HERE>? Just post proof otherwise this tread isn't going according to what the boi is for.

Maybe you should read the BOI rules before you tell us all what the BOI is here for.

Proof is optional, but recommended if you would like to remove any doubts about the truth of what you are posting. But this is purely up to you, just as the believability of what you post is purely up to the reader of your words.
 
Your rude and very wrong, I have never ripped off anyone.

Why the personal attack?:shrug01:

Because Ed...Because...If you are that blind to think like that,then you get what you deserve...Why do you have to lock for sale adds?..Why do people not buy from you??..Why do you associate with other bottom feeders like Nicole....You guys were high and mighty with each other til it went south...All of a sudden she couldnt look past how you keep your dragons..You could look past her lies...Again,there is NO HONOR AMONGST THIEVES...Until you realize what you are doing wrong,alot of people are gonna say bad things about you Ed..WAKE UP!!!!!!
 
Heres the score card. :)

Nicole owes me $1105.00 for stuff I sold her on credit.

She has an adult male yellow italian leatherback that belongs to me. she made an offer here on the BOPI to send him back if I paid her $150.00 so I paid it.

She receives the money then says if I will pay $150.00 I will pay $300.00

So I ignore her, bout 30 minutes later she emails then says she will accept $200.00 to ship him back.

Here on fauna when someone says they will accept this or that we expect them to follow thru. I have seen others such as Heide get beat up for going back on their word.

I'm not unreasonable, she is producing hundreds of baby dragons right now she can pay in dragons if she really wants to resolve this mess. the shot she took about me keeping dirty dragons or how ever she said it was uncalled for and untrue. my dragons are kept spotless.

Ed, you are FAR from spotless here. You BOTH are guilty, not just her, and not just you. Honestly, you both should try to resolve amongst yourselves rather here on the BOI.

I know you have feelings for her and can respect that. I also respect the fact that she doesnt want any ties to you as well. You both have yet to REALLY post any real proof that says one way or another who owes who here. Ed, if you really want her back, why not just say that in plain English and quit with the game. The game is killing every chance that you have plus, its going to get uglier (it has to).

To me, it seems as though Nicole really has feelings for you still too. If she didnt, she would just accept the payment you sent her and be done with you. If she REALLY wants you out of her life, my advice to her would be to send you whatever ends this debacle, regardless of what she feels for the dragon itself and move on. Nicole, if you truly want to move on, send him the dragon and get over it/you.

One of three things has to happen here...

1) you two will either get back together and live miserably ever after or
2) this is gonna get really ugly as you both are right about to aire out all the dirty laundry and secrets you have on each other.
3) you negotiate this privately and both move on to bigger and better things.
 
Maybe you should read the BOI rules before you tell us all what the BOI is here for.

Yes , but without any proof and your track record of bad guy threads,accusations and such leave it to be that no one will believe anything you say before any actual proof is posted.and btw i did not direct my post at any group of people just you, You not any "us".
 
When you say past do you as far back as this past saturday? Like the two hypo leatherbacks?

Would these be the hypo leathers I saw him post and say something like he can trace his line back to Italy? So I would think it would be a safe assumption based on that statement that you produced those right Ed? Or did you not produce them and are trying to take credit for someone else's work?

If you did produce them, nice work....they look nice.

If not, shame on you.
 
I feel the above post should have been posted in his thread, so I am going to repost the same in Ed's thread being it really doesn't belong in Nicoles thread. My bad.
 
Well after reading 5/6th of this thread (only cuz it seemed to get boring and repetitive about what both parties are sayin), I have come to my own conclusion that although both seem to have some nice dragons, I never plan on doing business with either one. My one qestion is about this quote, "This is the hypo trans about 7-8 months after she received it, she has lost so many dragons in the past year I wonder why? its possible she has adenovirus or that new virus running thru her collection?"

What is this so called new virus I have yet to read anywhere else about? Anyone know.
 
I am truly curious if you do keep your animals "spotless", Ed. Has anyone ever been over at Ed's for a visit besides his partner in crime?
 
Well after reading 5/6th of this thread (only cuz it seemed to get boring and repetitive about what both parties are sayin), I have come to my own conclusion that although both seem to have some nice dragons, I never plan on doing business with either one. My one qestion is about this quote, "This is the hypo trans about 7-8 months after she received it, she has lost so many dragons in the past year I wonder why? its possible she has adenovirus or that new virus running thru her collection?"

What is this so called new virus I have yet to read anywhere else about? Anyone know.

it is called EDenovirus It is rampant in the bearded dragon world but it is working on destroying itself.
 
Nicole is another 1 that boasts that she only sells what she produces, the first 14 lot of Leucistic crosses I sold her was so she had something to resell.

For the record I sell what I produce and I also have bought dragons to resell in the past.:)


Perhaps you've FINALLY screwed over 1 too many people that would otherwise have been HAPPY to sell you animals wholesale... (and if you haven't, i'm sure you will eventually)

If you take the time to read your statement... it's saying absolutely NOTHING about WHAT you produce, just that you sell it... 0 CAN be looked at as a measurable amount... (while I'm sure you do produce SOMETHING... I'd estimate it at approximately 5% or less of what you CLAIM is yours...).

Your statement also says absolutely nothing about buying animals to sell in the present or future, just that you HAVE done so in the past...

I'm not sure the point of your statement, except to possibly attempt to yet again divert attention away from you ridiculous business practices... but to anyone even remotely intelligent, your attempts FAIL.
 
Randal I Ignore James he is not worth paying attention to and nice try Lucille you asked for proof and you got it.

Ed I owe you nothing you Lies and Made up stories are sickening you have no owner ship over the dragon so cut the cover stories and fess up that you are just unable to handle getting the boot :)
 
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