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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

The following is what it (I'm too disgusted to even type its name) IM'ed me...

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Hey Kevin...if David and I end up serving time in your prison...can you slip me some cigarettes ones in a while? :D

Then Id be in brown with you two..... ummmmmm.... I'll pass
 
Its all BS. They are not going to leave the state of Michigan. I am almost positive that baby daddy would NOT let that happen. They are somewhat established there too with family and all. Plus, his lucrative lawnmowing business. They are just saying this to throw people off their trail.
 
SWEET! texas!? i love texas... i'm always going down there for something, plus we've got an office in DFW. i'd love to get a location. i could make a stop on my way to six flags and sea world.

Stop here first Brad as you know I am on the way.;) Also, why leave and go to a state that doesnt mess around with criminals
 
The stupidity in her words is making my brain cry.

If someone wants to plaster their town with signs lmk. I can print 1000 of them real quick at work and UPS them out overnight!
 
you know that when you cross state lines after doing what you did thats another fed charge? keep piling them up. i dont want you to ever see the light of day again unless its through a little hole.
 
....Yeah police? Yeah um, I stole a few thousand dollars from some1 n now they want me 2 pay them back. I had this great idea to run away to texas. I know theres lots of reptile peoples in texas that will be looking 4 me. Can you rent me a body guard? I promise Il pay you back later. After my husband gets his drugs n all K?..
 
Folks, it's very clear here that these two are not very bright. Continued as planned. These people at this point are no longer fooling anyone.
 
Alright folks. Nothing here to see. Christina said that Maggie won't give her way so she's not liable anymore. Might as well just lock-up this thread and go back to our daily routines....:eek3:

I was gonna write more sarcastic :censored:, but Rich (as GREAT a guy as he's proven to be) won't let me on here anymore!!!!
 
....Yeah police? Yeah um, I stole a few thousand dollars from some1 n now they want me 2 pay them back. I had this great idea to run away to texas. I know theres lots of reptile peoples in texas that will be looking 4 me. Can you rent me a body guard? I promise Il pay you back later. After my husband gets his drugs n all K?..

No, no, everything will be paid back when her husband gets his taxes back, remember? :ack2:
 
Dand.. That is the cutest bug I have ever seen. Your avatar. Is it molting or is it supposed to be white?

Anyway. I don't believe they're leaving either. Texas would be the absolute dumbest place to go with a rep like that.
 
I see a couple of issues here and they are all separate:

1) Making sure the Wise's pay for their sins. There are many on this, and I will help also where needed. No one of you is too small to help. Anyone taking part in the transactions can file complaints with various agencies. Others can notify the press.

2) Gettie some funds to Maggie. No matter how outraged we are, the wheels of justice grind slowly and Maggie will not see that money for a while.
No auctions this time, but how about everyone look around for a small something to donate, with the buyer sending funds direct to Maggie.

Even if it is just a little something, I think everyone would feel good if Maggie had the funds that were going to come to to her before al this happened, while we wait for justice.
( I put up a cute sugar glider yesterday (buy him!!)

3) Feelings. There are a lot of raw, hurt, feelings over this. The whole community was betrayed. Critters which were near and dear were put up for auction because each of those who donated wanted to help.

Let me suggest this: help is not always in terms of dollars and cents. Those who donated were showing their love, for Chuck, for Maggie and the kids, for Fauna.
I suggest that all who won animals in the auction as of now, do away with any feelings of guilt because the monies did not go through. Each of y'all sent money and got a donated critter, and the very process made us a better community.
Accept the critter with the same love it was donated with.

Rightfully, people are focussing on the hurt and outrage of anyone who could do something this evil. But for a moment, focus also on the good: the auction was an outpouring of love for Maggie. This site is overwhelmingly good, and many here went above and beyond. Fauna rocks.

Finally, the warm fuzzies we have for each other, never let them dull the passion for justice and rightful retribution. A wrong has been done, do not rest until it is righted......
 
If any of the children are fathered by other daddies and the other daddies have visitation rights, she cannot take the kids out of the state without court and the other daddies permission. That's kidnapping.

And another thing, not handing over the items just makes her case look much worse. It will show that people tried to handle the problem without going to court and they refused to cooperate. What kind of attorney is going to take her side especially when there isn't much money for them involved.
 
Breeding their rats in their bedroom??!!!!
:ack2::ack2::ack2::ack2::ack2::ack2:
Okay, my stomach just turned at that thought.

Thanks, my kid has some rodents in her room that breed. That's just like people that freak over the snakes in my room that breed.

I agree they're nasty scum but let's watch the shrapnel ok?

Shadera contacted DCFS to start an investigation on them.

Leaving state, moving at all actually, without informing them of your whereabouts results in the custody of your children reverting to the investigating agency.

Then you get kidnapping and interfering with the custody of a minor charges slapped on you.
 
Thanks, my kid has some rodents in her room that breed. That's just like people that freak over the snakes in my room that breed.

I agree they're nasty scum but let's watch the shrapnel ok?

Shadera contacted DCFS to start an investigation on them.

Leaving state, moving at all actually, without informing them of your whereabouts results in the custody of your children reverting to the investigating agency.

Then you get kidnapping and interfering with the custody of a minor charges slapped on you.

I'm sorry, that was thoughtless of me:(:(:(
 
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