Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

[lanceheads]

Your right Dean, I apologize!


Randal Berry

Sorry Peter!


Randal Berry

 

[htraxx2]

wise

All i can say is WOW......not very smart...but anyway i posted on the abc site and also posted this on my facebook...only have about 100 friends on there but the majority of them are very active and will spread this like wildfire..maggie if the kids need more movies let me know my kids have tons and would gladly send them to help out

 

[garweft]

http://www.facebook.com/ABC12WJRT?v=wall
I hope I posted that in the right place...Additional comments wont hurt.

You can also share it and post it to your profile. Spread the word.

 

[82shovel]

I posted it on Bill O Rileys Facebook page.
Please add comments to get attention to it.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bill-...pages/Bill-OReilly/408250066356?v=wall&ref=ts

 

[SERPENTS DEN]

4204 drummond sq flint mi 48504

Is their real address. Jas sent them snakes to this address

Hopefully someone will be paying them a visit!!

Jeff & Cristina Wise
4204 Drummond Square
Flint, MI 48504

,

 

[StormRose]

I put a post up on the Flint Journal's facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/flintjournal?v=wall

Please add your support if you can, thanks!

 

[Strike_Force_Reptiles]

i tell you what some people crap on others, some people step right in it, and others like the wise guys crapped it, stepped in it and tracked it straight into the cobra pit.

 

[HyderHouseHerps]

dang i have a lot of homework to do tonight!

 

[crissabella]

I am absolutely sickened over this new development I just sent what i could to Maggie today through paypal, and now Christina tries to pull even more !!! When will this end for Maggie and her kids?

 

[Iguanachic]

I am so angry with those two I am almost shaking. How dare they try to take more money from Maggie and her girls. I have been thinking all night of how I could eloquently post my feelings but I do believe I am at a loss. The devil himself wouldn't dream of doing the nasty things they have done.

 

[wyldwurm]

We need more member to help get the word out on facebook!!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=125254460837671&v=wall&ref=mf

 

[bradleymoore]

I am absolutely sickened over this new development I just sent what i could to Maggie today through paypal, and now Christina tries to pull even more !!! When will this end for Maggie and her kids?

don't forget it's not just christina. there's two of them. it is pretty sad that even after getting $2000+ for themselves, that they backtrack to try and get money that's already been disbursed to the intended recipient.

 

[SierraMarie]

The Not So Wise Scam

Many people have asked for a condensed version of the story to post on other places. I am not a journalist but I typed up an article that can be used and shared on whatever website, newspaper, bulletin board that will get the word out. If any body knows how to post a blog online and get more hits maybe we can figure out how to get it onto yahoo and aol top stories.
I will just do a copy and paste but if you want it emailed as an html or word document just let me know.

The Not So WISE Scam​

In today’s electronic era forums are popping up all over the place to allow people with like interests and hobbies a place to meet. In many of those forums the members become like family. When one member is going through a hard time the community comes together to do what they can in order to make life a little easier. This is what happened on Fauna Classifieds. Chuck Kimmel, a long time member and family of the community, had a heart attack. The community came together and had auctions for his wife Maggie and their three children, Angelina (8), Annie (6) and Charlie (19 months). . Previous to Chuck’s heart attack and passing another family member of the community, Rick Morro tragically lost a daughter. The Morros’ had no insurance and the community also came together for Rick and his family to help with some of the added expenses.
These auctions were ran by Jeff and Christina Wise out of Flint, MI. Many members donated reptiles and reptile related items for other members to bid on with all proceeds supposed to be going to Chuck’s widow and their three children or to Rick’s family. The community raised thousands of dollars for their online family in their time of grief. All the proceeds of these auctions went directly into Christina Wise’s PayPal account under the name of Christina Horn. These funds were supposed to be transferred directly to Rick Morro and Maggie Kimmel. Christina did forward two payments of $800 into Maggie’s paypal and $440 into Rick’s account.
Christina and Jeff Wise started going on a shopping spree within the community making many of the members wonder if the money was going to the proper places. Because many people were questioning them Jeff Wise posted a list of all money collected and what money went to each person. The totals that were given to the community was $5453 going to Maggie and $908 going to Rick. Many members of the community feel these figures are low due to cash donations that went unreported. Even with these figures the Wise’s owe the Kimmel family $3853 and owe the Morro family $468.
A respected member of the community, David Gruning, took it upon himself to attempt to collect the rest of the money from the Wise’s without making it public knowledge. Christina Wise then produced a forged check and forged bank records as proof she paid Maggie an additional $3500. When David proved that this was forged and was unable to collect the money owed he made it public in the Fauna BOI. (http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179622)*Warning members of the community are extremely shocked and outraged by Jeff and Christina Wise.
When it went public the Wise’s, in an attempt to justify their actions, first blamed it on a drug addiction and were going to allow David Gruning to pick up their animal collection to sell in order to come up with the funds. When David was on his way to pick up the collection Christina called him stating that she was advised by an attorney and the police not to give up any animals. Christina and Jeff Wise then started deleting everyone from Fauna from all of their social sites and closed their website(www.wisereptiles.com), trying to cover up their tracks. It was clear the families were not going to see their money without pursuing this further.
To add even further insult one of the $800 deposits into Maggie’s PayPal account is now being disputed by Christina’s bank. This has frozen Maggie’s PayPal account not allowing the community to send her donations directly. Maggie is needing these funds to assure she can work this summer to provide for her family. Rick was planning on using the rest of the donations for a headstone for his daughter’s grave.
The actions of these two individuals is inexcusable and immediate justice is needed.

 

[crissabella]

don't forget it's not just christina. there's two of them. it is pretty sad that even after getting $2000+ for themselves, that they backtrack to try and get money that's already been disbursed to the intended recipient.

You're right, how could i forget wittle jeffy, with the wittle hurt knee

I can't even think straight right now, i am just so ticked off at the both of them, and that's the polite version on how i'm feeling right now.

 

[Iguanachic]

don't forget it's not just christina. there's two of them. it is pretty sad that even after getting $2000+ for themselves, that they backtrack to try and get money that's already been disbursed to the intended recipient.

True there are two of them BUT as a mother she should have some sense of compassion and empathy for another mother suffering. The fact that she doesn't is scary.

 

[StormRose]

Great summary Sierra! I'll be sharing it wherever I can. Thank you!

 

[wyldwurm]

Many people have asked for a condensed version of the story to post on other places. I am not a journalist but I typed up an article that can be used and shared on whatever website, newspaper, bulletin board that will get the word out. If any body knows how to post a blog online and get more hits maybe we can figure out how to get it onto yahoo and aol top stories.
I will just do a copy and paste but if you want it emailed as an html or word document just let me know.

The Not So WISE Scam​

In today’s electronic era forums are popping up all over the place to allow people with like interests and hobbies a place to meet. In many of those forums the members become like family. When one member is going through a hard time the community comes together to do what they can in order to make life a little easier. This is what happened on Fauna Classifieds. Chuck Kimmel, a long time member and family of the community, had a heart attack. The community came together and had auctions for his wife Maggie and their three children, Angelina (8), Annie (6) and Charlie (19 months). . Previous to Chuck’s heart attack and passing another family member of the community, Rick Morro tragically lost a daughter. The Morros’ had no insurance and the community also came together for Rick and his family to help with some of the added expenses.
These auctions were ran by Jeff and Christina Wise out of Flint, MI. Many members donated reptiles and reptile related items for other members to bid on with all proceeds supposed to be going to Chuck’s widow and their three children or to Rick’s family. The community raised thousands of dollars for their online family in their time of grief. All the proceeds of these auctions went directly into Christina Wise’s PayPal account under the name of Christina Horn. These funds were supposed to be transferred directly to Rick Morro and Maggie Kimmel. Christina did forward two payments of $800 into Maggie’s paypal and $440 into Rick’s account.
Christina and Jeff Wise started going on a shopping spree within the community making many of the members wonder if the money was going to the proper places. Because many people were questioning them Jeff Wise posted a list of all money collected and what money went to each person. The totals that were given to the community was $5453 going to Maggie and $908 going to Rick. Many members of the community feel these figures are low due to cash donations that went unreported. Even with these figures the Wise’s owe the Kimmel family $3853 and owe the Morro family $468.
A respected member of the community, David Gruning, took it upon himself to attempt to collect the rest of the money from the Wise’s without making it public knowledge. Christina Wise then produced a forged check and forged bank records as proof she paid Maggie an additional $3500. When David proved that this was forged and was unable to collect the money owed he made it public in the Fauna BOI. (http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179622)*Warning members of the community are extremely shocked and outraged by Jeff and Christina Wise.
When it went public the Wise’s, in an attempt to justify their actions, first blamed it on a drug addiction and were going to allow David Gruning to pick up their animal collection to sell in order to come up with the funds. When David was on his way to pick up the collection Christina called him stating that she was advised by an attorney and the police not to give up any animals. Christina and Jeff Wise then started deleting everyone from Fauna from all of their social sites and closed their website(www.wisereptiles.com), trying to cover up their tracks. It was clear the families were not going to see their money without pursuing this further.
To add even further insult one of the $800 deposits into Maggie’s PayPal account is now being disputed by Christina’s bank. This has frozen Maggie’s PayPal account not allowing the community to send her donations directly. Maggie is needing these funds to assure she can work this summer to provide for her family. Rick was planning on using the rest of the donations for a headstone for his daughter’s grave.
The actions of these two individuals is inexcusable and immediate justice is needed.

EXCELLENT!! cross posted on my facebook group! http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=112&uid=125254460837671#!/group.php?gid=125254460837671

 

[joseydiann]

Hey guys.. I'm still really new to that site. I opened the account a while back but didn't do anything on there... Anyway I "think" this is me? Friends please add me.. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=529952881&ref=profile#!/profile.php?id=100000234941246&ref=mf I think I already tagged a few of you!

AND Reagan thank you so much, I needed that and couldn't have typed it that good lol..

Wow I also see ALOT of my banners out there I just made those today but wow they sure got out there fast. That's great though..

Amanda

 

[SERPENTS DEN]

don't forget it's not just christina. there's two of them. it is pretty sad that even after getting $2000+ for themselves, that they backtrack to try and get money that's already been disbursed to the intended recipient.

Actually I think the amount they stolen in the Auction scam is closer to $4000.00 I don't know how much they stolen from the other scams.

Hopefully someone will pay a visit to them!!

Jeff & Cristina Wise
4204 Drummond Square
Flint, MI 48504

 

[Fedawg]

I posted it on Bill O Rileys Facebook page.
Please add comments to get attention to it.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bill-...pages/Bill-OReilly/408250066356?v=wall&ref=ts

HAHAHA nice O'reilly is the man