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Adam Block (Inquiry)

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How many people have bought from Adam Block?
I want to know your experiences.

Has anyone bought Albino ball pythons from him?
Has anyone bought Piebald ball pythons from him?

I am asking because I was visiting his website....
and I noticed he states that he is sold out of piebalds and albinos..

So I would like to know who bought them.
http://www.angelfire.com/nv/impactreptiles/current.html

Thank you.
 
I have bought from Adam Block, and would like to share that he gave me excellent service. I may not have purchased Ball Pythons from him, but they were reptiles all the same (Baird's Ratsnakes). Just because of a small misunderstanding, he even sent me an extra snake. IMHO, it was unnecessary, just a really considerate thing to do. He's definately a good guy in my book.

I don't really know what's going on here with the dead Albino Ball Python thread, but I think some of you are being way too judgemental of Adam.

Paul Kossak
 
I live about an hours drive from Adam Block and have driven down to his place to pick up animals and his mouse racks. He has been nothing but courteous and kind to me, and everything I have ever bought from him was represented in a 100% accurate manner. ALL of the animals I have seen from Adam have been healthy and in Awesome condition. I have NEVER once been disappointed with any of his services or animals nor have I had any problems with the way he communicates with me. I know sereval other people who have also had awesome experiences with him. I have not purchased any Ball Pythons from him but can tell you that if he says he has had them and is out then its true. What is the purpose of this post? Are you going to buy from him or are you trying to make trouble? I just don't understand why this post was even made?
 
What is the purpose of this thread?
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Let me see....I wonder what it says on the tittle.... oh INQUIRY

Trying to stir up trouble?
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If trying to find the truth means trying to stir up trouble....THEN HELL YEAH !!!

Adam just got into pythons this year.
He has pictures of two albino and four piebalds. He claims to be sold out. I firmly believe this is just Adams way of making himself look like some big breeder that he is [size4]DEFINATELY NOT[/SIZE]. For example..... his statements of over 23 years experience when he is only 28. Adam has always tried to make it sound like he is bigger than he really is not.

So I posted to find the buyer of the two albinos and the four pie balds. But so far no posters yet.

I keep an eye on numberous classifieds and have yet to see hi put an albino or a piebald for sale. But yet he is sold out?


So if you bought an albino ball python or a piebald from Adam Block........post here or pm me or e-mail me.
 
BAREPAPABEAR = Robert Raasch

I just did research on your name.
only one thing comes to mind. Birds of a feather flock together.

Thanks for your input though.
 
Does it really matter if Adam sold an albino ball or not. He is just trying to make a name for himself. It is hard to sell high end snakes unless you have been around for a long time. As long as he is not trying to rip anyone off it shouldn't matter who bought them or if he ever sold them. He obviously has some and hopes to breed and sell them. If he was trying to sell hets that were not het, this would be another story. All he is trying to do is show people that he is in the bussiness of selling Albino Balls and Piebald Balls. Who knows, he might never have a piebald for sale. Until he does something wrong he should not be attacked. I have never purchased anything from Adam. I have never met or even talked to Adam. But it seems that in every post someone is trying to make him look like the bad guy. If he is a bad guy, why doesn't every body post how he did you bad. The only bad thing I read about Adam is that he got thrown off of kingsnake because he has a big mouth. And I wouldn't consider that too much of a bad thing.

Ritchie, you locked up his post about NERD because you said he had no facts. Every one on this site is posting based on opinions. He had a bad experiance with NERD and is trying to tell everyone why. You said he had no evidance, but he was sold an Albino Ball by Nerd. Fact. It did die of gout. Fact. He tried to resolve the problem with Kevin, who refused to work with him. Fact. Many people post about their deals gone bad, some have more facts than others. He is just trying to put what happened out in the open. Kevin was selling CB Baby Yellow Monitors a few years ago. I find it hard to believe that it was a Captive Bred Yellow Monitor when nobody had produced them yet. The first guy to do it was in Germany and he produced it after NERD posted it for sale. I believe it was a baby, but Captive Hatched and Captive Bred are two different things. It seems to me that it could be possible that Kevin is bad. I would be wary of him because of what I have seen. Adam is just giving people a warning, just like everyone else on the Boi is doing.

Who knows Adam could be a bad guy. I just haven't heard or seen him do anything bad. If he has, than I am wrong for defending him. It just seems unfair that every time he posts about someone or something he ends up getting attacked. Like I said before if he has done you wrong, post it. That way we will know for sure if he is bad or not. I don't care either way, just be fair to everyone. Thanks.

Tony Alles
www.reptileguru.com
 
Tony,

You raise some valid questions. Let me try to point out two issues you might want to consider, however.

You asked, "Does it really matter if Adam sold an albino ball or not."

Well, it does and it doesn't. It doesn't matter in the sense that no one was ripped off or directly hurt by his posting that if it isn't true. However, it DOES matter in the sense that, IF it is NOT true, then it would be an example of Adam lying about himself and his business in order to get people to trust him based on falsified statements. Surely, you would agree that the ONLY thing that makes internet sales of reptiles (or anything for that matter) possible is the issue of TRUST between those who are dealing with one another. Trust is all we really have as sellers on the net! if a man cannot be trusted in this business, he cannot do business. IF (and I say "if") Adam has lied about selling these animals, then he cannot be trusted, and his future business opportunities ought to reflect that fact.

You also stated, "He had a bad experiance with NERD and is trying to tell everyone why. You said he had no evidance, but he was sold an Albino Ball by Nerd. Fact. It did die of gout. Fact."

You see, the problem is that those are only "facts" IF Adam can be believed. However, if he is shown to be capable of lying to suit his own purposes, then EVERYTHING he says is suspect from then on! When you combine this with the new information which now appears to show that the necropsy report of a ball python, which died of gout, may not even be of his animal (but rather that of a professor Steve House at ASU) . . .well, it is not looking too good for Adam's credibility.

Tony, I commend you on wanting to make sure that no one is attacked without proper evidence. I think it is valiant that you would want things to shake out in a fair manner here. However, this may not be the battle in which you want to side with the underdog. Sometimes a dog really is a dog, and this may be one of those instances.
 
It did die of gout. Fact
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Wow are you sure about that? Is that why the necropsy report that he posted is not of his animal? The necropsy report he posted belongs to someone else's animal. The necropsy report he posted had the dates and owners info blocked out. Because he was not the owner of the animal in the report.

Does it really matter if Adam sold an albino ball or not. He is just trying to make a name for himself.
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So pretending (lying) about what you have or have not sold is okay as long as you are trying to make a name for yourself. Thank you.



Hey guys. I am all sold out of spider balls for the season.
I also am out of Albino Surinam Boa constrictors.


I locked the thread because webslave already erased his other one and he decided to put it back up. But go ahead and keep defending this KNOWN LIAR.

Again I am not looking for defense or offense.
I am looking for the people who bought his albinos and piebalds.
 
Ritchie,

He has pictures of two albino and four piebalds. He claims to be sold out.
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In order to be fair with what I saw in Adam's page, although he says he is sold out, I couldn't find (maybe I missed it) even one statement where he states he breeds albinos and/or piebalds. There is not even one picture of an adult albino or piebald but all babies. In fact the picture of the albino on his page is the one he bought in Daytona from BHB (and posted in his thread). In my opinion he is just brokering them, and he could very well be sold-out without having never bred any of the two morphs.
 
Yup I thought about that and agree with you.

That is why I am looking for these people.


I want to know if he has sold any albinos or piebalds.
 
I was not trying to defend a known liar. Like I said I have no idea if he was a liar or not. I never saw any info showing how he was bad. If he is blacking out info on the necropsy, then I am on your side. I am not saying that lying about what you have sold or not sold is the right thing to do, but it does not make him a bad person to deal with. People do stupid things to try to look good. If he was scamming people that would make him a bad person to deal with. If he is blacking out info and trying to scam Nerd. Than we will obviously see what kind of person he is. I just want to see everyone get a fair chance. It seems like he gets ripped apart every time he speaks. And the people at this site tend to jump on people very quickly. You have shown me some info that I was unaware of. Thanks. I just found it strange that his post would be deleted because of what happened between him and Nerd. There has quite a few posts were things weren't as they seemed, but didn't get deleted. Now that you have shown that he is lying about the situation, I am all for his post being deleted. Nerd deserves just as much of a fair chance as anyone. Thanks again for posting that stuff up for me to see. I am to busy to keep up on every thread but I try. Thanks.

Tony Alles
www.reptileguru.com
 
I would like to make a comment here about the SOLD OUT tag being on someone's price list.

I think there are probably quite a few breeders out there that will do that for convenience sake, whether or not they produce the animals listed on their pages. For instance, I have, and will do it, myself. It is not being done maliciously and it is not being done to deceive. When I am finally working on getting my current pricelist online, I may have no idea what exactly, or how many, is going to be hatching out of those multi-het clutches of eggs. So I might put some things that there is only an outside chance that I will be producing, but since the eggs are either still just a hope on my part, since breeding hasn't even begun yet, I am just being optimistic about what I will be producing this season. I believe this is justifiable on a price list made based on projections and faith.

So when the eggs are hatching out from mid July thru mid September, maybe not everything I had hoped for will be hatching out. Matter of fact, if you look at my SerpenCo.com site right now, you will see colored markers that are a rough estimate of the status of what I have available. I had the Striped Butter corns marked as 'Sold Out' right off the bat, because I knew I wasn't going to sell any this year, but I wanted to spark interest in them. Others, well, I just didn't get them to hatch as I had hoped for, but should I really make up another colored marker to indicate "Didn't happen!"? Remove them from the list completely, even though I certainly may produce them next year, and I would want people to know I still have a chance at getting them next year? Yeah it would be more accurate, but certainly not anything worth worrying about. In my opinion, all 'Sold Out' is saying to someone looking at the page is that they are 'Not Available'.

So that's my take on it. Personally, even if it is found that Adam did not produce those animals he has listed on his site, I suspect that if you looked around, you would find this sort of situation on a lot more sites than you would suspect. And I would not give it a second thought.

Is it right or wrong? Heck, I just never thought about it before. In my case there was no deceit involved, and I guess I just think the same about someone else doing the same thing.

IMHO, of course.
 
oh okay I see your point. Yes everyone deserves a fair shake.
But I hope that you see my point when I say that if you have been known to be a liar and you have been known to fake some "sincere" apologies. It will be hard to give you a fair shake.

As for why two of his NERD threads were deleted.
It is bacause he already has one. And after 22 pages....the only thing we have proven is that
1. Adam block is a liar
2. NERD sold an underweight ball to some guy.

We have not even proven if his albino is really dead. Up to know no pictures.
He could have reposted the necropsy report to at least show it was his animal and it was an albino. But he refuses to do so.


So I want to know if he has sold any piebalds and albinos or if this is another attempt to make himself sound better than he is.
You are right. He does not get a fair shake. But do research on him and see exactly why he does not get one.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7678
 
So that's my take on it. Personally, even if it is found that Adam did not produce those animals he has listed on his site, I suspect that if you looked around, you would find this sort of situation on a lot more sites than you would suspect. And I would not give it a second thought.
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You are right.

Sorta like if people did more research.....they would find out that a good number of breeders sell an animal "to young".
I know I have acquired a couple of them.
 
Sold Out?

Jusy my opinion .... putting a tag SOLD OUT on something you have never had does deceive the buyer. Although It may not be done maliciously or with the intention to deceive it isn't really the truth (or at least is misleading). As a buyer I would prefer to see the tag NOT AVAILABLE or MAYBE SOON or FUTURE PROJECT or something, but SOLD OUT doesn't tell me you haven't sold these before. Which is the truth.
 
Ritchie,

I find this thread just down right vicious. And am surprised its happening.
You say you are not a moderator but yet you are allowed access to lock threads, such as from that guy last night bashing a breeder. What is up with that? A non moderator with privilages?

You say that this forum is for proof. Well before you go saying Adam fakes sincere apologies maybe YOU should have to PROOF to back it up? Show me fake sincere apologies?

Either you are a moderator and have privilages AND should not abuse them or get this vicious and involved. OR you are not a moderator and should not have a moderators privilages.

Just MY opinion

Rozann Lamont
go ahead and slam away
 
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