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Albino Ball Python Died!!

It's been brought to my attention that because of Seamus's fixation on and obession with my age I may want to mention it because my lack of answering the question could be taken as avoidence of it due to an inacracy in my staitments.

I will say this to address the question. Seamus know how old I am as we've had this discussion on the phone. We've both expressed that we don't want others to know our age due to a stereotype that may be placed on somebody younger. Because of this Seamus is trying to get me to play a card he already know I don't want to play as he's expressed the same thing to me.

Many know that Seamus is young due to the lack of accountablity for his words and the infalibility he speaks with. Most know this is something that we grow out of with age and it's not easy to find somebody over 25 with that mentality.

My statement that I have 23 years of expereance is fairly easy to back up. For that matter there is a photo of me on the about me section of my site that shows me with a Boa at 8 or 9 years old. I also have photos of myself at age 8 sitting on a table with a half a dozen cages with snakes in the background giving a reptile show at my mothers works. I had a good mind to post it but of course Seamus would respond with "how do we know that's really you" so I saw no point.

My daughter has been keeping snakes for 5 years and at 7 knows that latin name of many Elaphe. Furthermore I have customers that have bought snakes for their 4-5 year old children. If there is some doubt in your mind that I've been keeping snakes for 23 years still at this point I urge you to question why you're fixated on that point? THis thread was established to address the health a death of snakes and not the ages of there breeders.

Seamus, I will call your bluff and be happy to post a number after you do the same. I feel that is fair as the reasoning for your question is fairly easy to see.

I'm also going to post a great deal of information tonight on 5 more animals that I've found out came from NERD. The body count is now at least 7 and still seems to be going up. Now may be a good time for some damage control Kevin as this is starting to look like more of a care issue on your end then everybody else!

And I thank you all for filtering through the posts to finally read a fact!

Adam Block
 
hmm

I MUST say that this thread has become quite ridiculous. I just think its sad that so much time is wasted on this little "pissing contest"...move on, the snake is dead, use your time to fill your water bowls...

Just my opinion, for I really like this BOI, but some of its regulars have made me want to stay as far away as possible...
 
Ooops...my mistake...Adam's date of borth is 9/16/74.( isn't the internet neat) I guess if you can claim your "experience" begins at the age of six he could be, technically" telling the truth as he sees it.
 
Adam,

If you have Proof then post it. If not STOP posting that your going to post this and that. So you are aware, the pic of you on YOUR OWN website is not of you at 8 or 9 but rather 10. How do I know this and you don't? I looked and read it which I would have figured you would have known since it is YOUR web page.
 
My daughter has been keeping snakes for 5 years and at 7 knows that latin name of many Elaphe
So a two year old is keepeing snakes? And instead of running around throwing tantrums....your daughter has enough maturity and responsibility to "keep" snakes? She has a firm grasp of the days and week or weeks that go by and know when her snakes need feeding?

If you mean she has snakes in her room but you are the one who feeds cleans and takes care of them....

Well then my daughter has been keeping fish since before she was even born.

We've both expressed that we don't want others to know our age due to a stereotype that may be placed on somebody younger.
If you are old enough to have twenty three (23) years of experience....I do not think you are young enough to get the "young" stereotype. That stereotype is usually for 15 year olds and younger.

In fact I know of one who has accomplished so much before he was 20......and no one stereotyped him that I know of. I know of one who had his 25th birthday last year and he is one of the more respected breeders out there. And both of these guys are what I want to be when I actually grow up someday.

By the way. someone mentioned this.
To keep that quality I don't do reptile shows, pet stores or allow visitors to my house.

That means when you were around six years old.... You knew which breeders to go to where you can obtain your stock directly from. Because you did not go to pet stores. And in 1980 breeders were few and far between. In fact... people like Jeff Ronne and VPI found it hard to search for other at around that time. But you at the tender age of six knew enough to find them. At the age of six... I did not know what "breeders" were. So at the age of six...you sure knew a lot
 
Hey, I am 29, if anybody cares!!!

What difference does someones age make? Do I fall into the "young guy stereo type"?? At what magical age will no longer be a part of this so called "sterotype"??

I needed a book mark anyways.

Jason Brennan
 
Adam Block's Lies

Here are Adam Blocks lies for the world to see

Posted on 1/25/03
8/02 My partner purchased an Albino ball python at the Daytona Show. This snake was born the same month of the show, something not mentioned at the time and only recently brought to my attention.

8/05 The animal was place in my care, was feeding fair and in good physical condition.
Over the next six weeks this snake fed five times with no troubles and seemed very healthy.

Posted on 9/24/2002
I haven't gotten a new snake in many years and have bought mainly from closet breeders.

So on September of 2002 Adam Block states that he has not bought any new animals in Years. But the truth is...less than a month before his post.....he has bought sixty (60) of them from a reptile show.

Speaking of reptile show.

Posted by adam block on 9/23/03
To keep that quality I don't do reptile shows, pet stores or allow visitors to my house.
And yet about a month before his post....he has bought sixty (60) snakes from a reptile show.

Here is what adam says about a certain breeder/dealer in 9/23/02
When you have a booth at a show next to people like B.H.B. or for that matter any time you have 100s of people under one roof you can't guarantee the quality
But on 1/27/03 he posted this
I'm including a picture of another Albino bought from B.H.B. at the same time.
here is the link. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12613&perpage=10&pagenumber=6 he even included a picture of an animal he bought from a breeder that can't guarantee quality according to him.


By the way adam. Should I sweep these facts under a rug for you?

And your report necropsy report from Uof A
Can you post a necropsy report of your albino?
Or at least edit that one by putting your name on there.


Hows that rug Adam? Your credibility just flew out the window if you ever had any.
 
to those who questioned why webslave let this thread stay.

One of his most favorite things in the world besides guns are the people who hang themselves.

And he knew that someone would dig and dig and dig.

by the way Adam. This is why I am not "moderator"
a moderator moderates.

My job is to sniff sh!t out. And boy are you stinky
 
Adam

I do have a question, I have many necropsy reports here I have reviewed. Each of them start with the name of the Vet, Clinic or individual that submitted them for study. I can understand you not wanting your Vets name public, no problem about that.

But what I am confused about, all the reports I have here, the first line(s) in the report is the history of the animal, the one you post, I do not see that but see there is an area that is shadowed out that might be it. This usually is very brief, giving the age and what the snake presented prior to death which would be brief history.

Can you explain what is on the first area where the history normally is or why it is shadowed out?
 
I am wondering why there is no date.
And where is adam's name.

And what is a shouse, ball python?

or does that say shoose, ball python.


I am wondering why Adam decided to put up a separate post instead of addressing these lies I caught him in.

But I bet adam won't be back on this thread.
If he does come back he probably won't adress them.

I would like to see some serious back peddling
 
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Bradley GA, Calderwood Mays MB. 1990. Immunoperoxidase staining for the detection of autoantibodies in canine autoimmune skin disease: Comparison to immunofluorescence results. Vet Immuno Immunopath 26:105-113.

Bradley GA. 1991. Myocardial necrosis in a pug dog with necrotizing meningoencephalitis. Vet Path. 28:91-93.

Roth L and Bradley GA. 1991. Pulmonary hamartoma in a calf. J Comp Path. 105:471-474.

Bradley GA, Tye J, Lozano-Alarcón F, Noon TH, Bicknell EJ and Reggiardo C. 1992. Hemopericardium in a dog due to hemorrhage originating in a heart-base thymic remnant. J Vet Diag Inv 4:211-212.

Lozano-Alarcón F, Bradley GA, Allen TR and Reggiardo C. 1992. Lymphosarcoma in a desert bighorn sheep. J Vet Diagn Invest. 4(4):492-494.

Biller DS, Bradley GA and Partington BP. 1992. Renal medullary rim sign: Ultrasonographic evidence of renal disease. Vet Radiol 33:286-290.

Babakani FK, Bradley GA, and Joens LA. 1993. Newborn piglet model for campylobacteriosis. Infect Immun. 61(8):3466-3475.

Jackson MW, Holfand SC, Smedes SL, Bradley GA and Schultz RD. 1994. Primary IgG secreting plasma cell tumor in the gastrointestinal tract of a dog. JAVMA. 204(3):404-407.

McNamara PJ, Bradley GA and Songer JG. 1994. Targeted mutagenesis of the phospholipase D gene results in decreased virulence of Corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis. Molecular Microbiology. 12(6)921-930.

Bradley GA, Shupe MR, Reggiardo C, Noon TH, Lozano-Alarcón F and Bicknell EJ. 1994. Inclusion body hepatitis in Gambel's quail (Callipepla gambelii) J Wild Dis 30(2)281-284.

Bradley GA, Metcalf HC, Reggiardo C, Noon TH, Bicknell EJ, Lozano-Alarcón F, Reed RE and Riggs M. 1995. Neuroaxonal degeneration in sheep grazing Sorghum sp. pastures. J Vet Diag Inv. 7:229-236.

Lozano-Alarcón F, Lewis TP, Clark EG, Bradley GA, Shupe MR and Hargis AM. 1996. Persistent papillomavirus infection in a cat. J Am Anim Hosp Assoc. 32(5):392-396.

Steele KE. Visvesvara GS. Bradley GA. Lipscomb TP and Gardiner CH. 1997. Amebiasis in a dog with gastric ulcers and adenocarcinoma. J Vet Diagn Inv. 9:91-93.

Lozano-Alarcón F, Bradley GA, Houser BS and Visvesvera GS. 1997. Primary amebic meningoencephalitis due to Naegleria fowleri in a South American tapir. Vet Pathol 34:239:243.

Bradley G, Orr K, Reggiardo C, Glock RD. 2001. Enterotoxigenic E. coli infection in captive Black-footed ferrets. J of Wildlife Dis 37:617-620.

Bradley G, Rosen P, Sredl M, Jones T and Longcore J. Chytridiomycosis in Arizona frogs. J of Wildlife Dis (in press).

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Ritchie,

Maybe with this info you can find a copie of the repot for us all to see.
 
In summation...

I will part with the following on these threads and I will close this one and allow you to fight amongs yourself about it.

You ask for something saying I've lied, I supply it and you dismiss it. Case in point, the feedcard and the other party that came to speak about their dealing with Kevin. You ask I answer and you look for another hole, however! Only in my side of things.

It has been brought to my attention there are many trolls in here only trying to distort and hide facts. As evident by the fact the questions aren't address when proven. In the case of the feedcard Seamus was sure didn't exist as he knows for fact NERD doesn't supply them. When the feedcard was in fact posted then the question became how do we know where it came from?

With trolls, this doesn't end, there will always be more questions. Some will be as silly as asking where a truck driver would have pluged a hot glue gun in? This is a question that could be answered by any owner/operator out there and had no merit in this thread. It was an obvious attempt to divert attention from the topic at hand. When answered the question then would have been, how many watts was it and can we see a picture?

My interest was only in finding the truth here and I've done so.

I have stated enough as fact that if in fact it does not have a foundation in truth Kevin would sue me and win with ease.

With that said and knowing when I posted my latest thread I would be suffer the law if I was lying. There is only one way to decide who is correct. Let us wait and see if Kevin files a suit against me. If not we'll know why!

I'm many things, but stupid I'm not. I wouldn't put myself that far out there without a safty rope as that thread more then crossed the lines of accusation.

Good luck and enjoy,
Adam Block
 
so Adam..again you failed to answer the lies.
you were posting over and over that you did not do shows and you have not gotten new animals in years. Yet only a month before...THAT is exactly what you did.

The glue gun thing. It was relevant to the thread.

You stated that your partner drove from florida to arizona non stop.
Then you stated they stoppe dat walmart bought shoboxes and glued water dishes to the boxes with a hot glue gun. Just wondering where they plugged it in.


By the way.....as aforementioned.
Nice of you to avoid those lies up there.

Diverting the topic at hand?
oh you mean the thing you posted that was full of assumptions innuendos and allegations.
 
Adam,

That's just junk! You say that if Kevin does not sue you, it proves that you're telling the truth? What????

Ok, I'm the wealthiest man in America. That's a fact that is proveably true or false. In fact, if Bill Gates does not sue me for making that statement, it will PROVE that I AM the wealthiest man in America!

I could sue you for almost anything and be "right," but proving it to be true by a "preponderance of the evidence" so that a jury or judge saw things my way is another story all together. And all of that is assuming that you had hurt my business enough to justify going through the motions and headaches of a lawsuit!

C'mon! Adam, you're smarter than all of this. You and I have locked horns before, and I DO NOT agree with you on everything you've done in the past (nor you with me), but you are putting up some really ludicrous argumentation on this one. You're not even making sense.

Post some actual, verifiable facts, or back off of this and let it sink to the bottom of the bowl!
 
Disculpame, por favor!

Well, I made a mistake, and I want to clear that up right away!!!

In regards to the issue of Seamus' age, I stated that I figured him to be about 29 years old, because he had posted that he was in the 6th grade when the Challenger exploded in 1986. Right calculations on my part . . .wrong guy!

It was Ken Harbart who posted that information about himself in another forum, and my memory failed me. I think that is what they call a "Senior Moment."

So, I appologize to Seamus and everyone else for that error. Seamus may well be 29, but if he is, it is purely by accident that I hit the number and NOT factual based upon my previous statements.
 
In all honesty Adam, this thread should never have been started. The only two items that you have presented that can be arguably referred to as evidence are:

1.) The feed card which shows that NERD may have sold an animal, that had absolutely nothing to d with your situation, that was underfed and undersized. Irrelevant and completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

2.) A necropsy report that shows that a ball python (I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that it is the albino in question), died of gout due to undetermined causes. This occurred after several weeks in your care.

You have garnered this into a truly amazing cloud of innuendo and veiled accusations against someone whose reputation has been way above the norm in this business for over a decade. You have slammed his breeding stock, his husbandry practices as well as his ethics. This is inexcusable without hard evidence. In essence, you have called him a liar and a thief.

You have continually spouted hearsay as fact without backing it up at all and have repeatedly dodged questions that could have strengthened your position.

While I will admit that your behavior in this thread shows a marked improvement from your normal brand of "rebel without a clue" posting on this forum, simple civility without worthwhile content is just so much hot air.

Let this one go...I am sure that with the thousands of animals Kevin has sold over the last ten years, you can probably cobble together a few people that will be willing to bad mouth him. So what? Eventually, every one of us will have a customer that cannot be made happy. It’s inevitable. You should be well aware of this given the number of negative posts you have managed to amass over the past several months.

A beautiful animal died from an unknown cause...it sucks...deal with it and move on. Trying to manufacture blame isn’t going to help the situation one bit and will, in all likelihood, shatter what is left of your credibility and reputation .
 
Every day I get to laugh more and more. Adam you really are showing how much you are what you are. You have done NOTHING to prove any of your accusations. You have done NOTHING to prove anything in these pitiful attempts of thrashing a buisness. It is obvious that you can not follow the rules of this site (by posting FACTS) and when valid questions are put forth you try and dispel them because you don't want to answer them. The question about the Heat gun is a valid one as you stated that your partner stopped at Wal-Mart and hot glued some cups into the shoe boxes. If there is a place to plug in a hot glue gun in the truck them by all means let us know. Some of us do not ride in nor drive Big Rigs for a living and have no idea about that. That is exactly why it was brought up.
Adam have you ever heard the phrase "your digging yourself deeper and deeper" well I would look up if I were you, you have dug yourself pretty deep and if you don't stop soon there will be no way out of this hole.
 
I see the "bad guy" post Adam started on NERD has been deleted in it's entirety. I guess, as usual, Adam couldn't come up with the goods that Rich required.
 
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