1) Did he lie to Will about dropping the price?
2) When was this snake hatched?
3) Did it feed 5-6 times like he said?
4) Does he respond himself or have somebody else do it?
5) Why does he feed his snakes so poorly?
6) Was the snake given water on the way down to the show?
7) Was the snake given water while at the show?
8) How many times had the snake eaten?
9) Who bought the other animals from this clutch?
10) Have any other deaths like this been brought to his attention?
11) Was money his motivation for bringing such young animals to the show?
1) Does it matter? You are here talking about YOUR snake...
2) Good question, one that is legitimate.
3) There is no real reason to assume he's lying, there were no inconsistencies in
his statements.
4) If someone is responding with his login name (His wife or an employee) and he has given them his password in order to do so, it doesn't matter WHO writes it, they are acting as his representative.
5) You have yet to actually prove he feeds his snakes poorly, there was a scanned feed card with nothing on it that significantly indicated that it was from NERD... while I hesitate to call the individual who posted it a liar, I have never gotten a feed card with any animal from NERD and I have purchased a few. I can easily write up my own feed card with different colored inks and with seperate sets of handwriting and scan it in saying I bought Tuataras from you, wouldn't make it definitive evidence.
6) Another legitimate question although... even if it was not, it would not constitute any PROOF that the condition developed during that period of time. Gout doesn't always take long periods of time to develop, the animal is well outside of the guarantee period and you haven't got a leg to stand on in your demands for a refund. Sure it's
possible that it developed while in Kevin's care but it is equally
possible that it developed under
Your care, no specific and definitive blame can be attached.
7) While I did not attend Daytona and did not verify the conditions down there, I do know that Kevin has a habit of providing water at shows no more than a few hours from his facility. If he does it locally, why would he deviate from the practice when on a longer trip?
8) A semi-legitimate question... it had eaten enough for you to purchase it, at several times while in your care and you are seemingly attributing numbers as coming from Kevin... if he said Five or six times, then the answer is "Five or six times." so there's really no reason to ask it again.
9) Whoever did, they apparently either haven't had a problem, which shoots down much of the credibility in your arguments attempting to place blame on Kevin or they don't read this message board... If they don't choose to respond to your requests to come forward, you can't reasonably demand that Kevin release the information.
10) Another semi-legitimate question... I've personally always found Kevin to be a very honest guy who is generally willing to go out of his way to ensure customer satisfaction when it's still within the realm of a reasonable request... if he had a number of people reporting a problem all over a specific clutch, I would wager that he would contact the other buyers and inform them of the potential problem. A lone problem from a known pain in the ass customer months after the animal supposedly died who wasn't even the original purchaser... I would blow them off too.
11) You haven't yet actually proved they were "that young" you have merely decided that this is the case and are basing invalid arguments on unproven conjecture. As a second matter, why else would an individual bring an animal to a show other than to potentially sell it and make a reasonable profit?
Now Adam... your age becomes relevant to this thread because
YOU mentioned having twenty three years of experience as a means of establishing your position that YOUR care of the animal was beyond reproach. Specifically that the death and condition could not have evolved while in your care because you have been successfully keeping the animals in question for over two decades...
If you are not in your mid to late thirties at the very youngest, you do not have twenty three years of quality experience which makes your statements tantamount to a
PUBLIC LIE and establishes your willingness to deviate from the truth in order to get your own way... Now, it'll only take a few seconds to tap in two digits as a response so...
How old are you and can you verify your twenty three years of experience?!
It honestly doesn't surprise me that Kevin hasn't responded to this thread, there's so much pure crap spewing forth from Adam's keyboard that it requires hip waders in order to respond.
Cheri, while the VB message boards will tell you when a user is logged in and which forum(s) they are in at the moment, it doesn't distinguish the particular thread OR note when a user has been idle for a period of time. I do agree that Kevin (or someone acting as his representative) has
probably read much of the thread but... it can not be stated with absolute certainty unless someone cares to verify it with the gentleman personally.
And... as a bit of a side note, my personal understanding of Ritchie's position as a moderator was that he was given the position in order to gain the ability to shut down threads on the classifieds sections to prevent erasure of damning evidence and his role was stated as being that of a detective/watchdog rather than the unbiased position and mediator that WebSlave and Ken fill.
