Bad Guy Avangel Reptiles- parasitic reptiles, and more

[nlcoe]

Oh I ment the geckos that where received sickly that's all I was wondering how they are doing


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[Big Borg Reptiles]

Hopefully the story is the same with his ball pythons, i don't think anyone knows their condition at this point.

Honestly, the prices on his ball pythons weren't anything to make someone want to rush and grab them before they missed out. Unfortunately I would guess he still has them and is feeding them that garbage.

 

[Realauren89]

Oh I ment the geckos that where received sickly that's all I was wondering how they are doing


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Much better. Sime have came along way.

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[Lucille]

With that being said, nothing else needs to be said regarding this topic each individual can choose whether or not to believe her on their own and really nothing else needs to be said.

Nice try putting the hush on. It's OK for you to post, but then no one else can say anything?
Bypassing all of Darien's personal issues, what IS relevant are her many accusations against others and whether they are believable.
You've posted a screenshot about how Darien is saying it is just too much for her to come to this site.
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[nlcoe]

How do I view my info lol?


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[Central Coast Herps]

Anyone can say what they want but if this is turning into a *Bad girl Neko Geckos* Post then make a new thread focused on her. For all I care we can completely drop her out of the subject on this thread. People can believe whatever they want regarding her but it is time to move on in this post.

 

[Realauren89]

Nice try putting the hush on. It's OK for you to post, but then no one else can say anything?
Bypassing all of Darien's personal issues, what IS relevant are her many accusations against others and whether they are believable.
You've posted a screenshot about how Darien is saying it is just too much for her to come to this site.
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Look I'm all for truth, but a previous admin has warned us to get off this subject, another admin has reiterated that with a warning that infractions will follow if we continue this. The post is about Chaz, not Darien. As far as I'm concerned let's pretend she never posted.



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[Lucille]

Look I'm all for truth, but a previous admin has warned us to get off this subject, another admin has reiterated that with a warning that infractions will follow if we continue this. The post is about Chaz, not Darien. As far as I'm concerned let's pretend she never posted.



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I believe you misunderstand. The warning was for discussing Darien's personal issues, I believe. However, in my post, above, I proved she was lying when she said she would not come to this site. The fact that she was caught in a lie is very much relevant to accusations she has made against Chaz in this thread, and whether one may or may not believe those accusations.

It is my personal belief that behaviors by people can affect whether or not one might want to do business with them, so her accusations here of Chaz' behavior have to do with his reputation as a business man, and the veracity of her accusations are relevant.

 

[Realauren89]

I believe you misunderstand. The warning was for discussing Darien's personal issues, I believe. However, in my post, above, I proved she was lying when she said she would not come to this site. The fact that she was caught in a lie is very much relevant to accusations she has made against Chaz in this thread, and whether one may or may not believe those accusations.

It is my personal belief that behaviors by people can affect whether or not one might want to do business with them, so her accusations here of Chaz' behavior have to do with his reputation as a business man, and the veracity of her accusations are relevant.

However, she isnt the only person makibg accusations. The others who have posted have all shown their proof so it's pretty clear cut and dry what type of person Chaz is. Regardless of Darien's post or not. I have seen her other posts on the BOI and I realize she has practical ruined what credibility she has. Do we really need to drag it out in this thread like it has happened in the others or can we just drop it and take it to another part of this forum? I would prefer well as OP and the other victims to drop Darien from the topic. Which is why I'm sure the other mods that commented want to happen as well.


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[Lucille]

I would like to add that I am not a fan of Chaz, but that does not mean that anyone can come here and say anything, and not be questioned about the allegations they make.

 

[Realauren89]

I would like to add that I am not a fan of Chaz, but that does not mean that anyone can come here and say anything, and not be questioned about the allegations they make.

I agree 10000% but we pretty much have established that she has lied. I think we should stop beating the dead horse.

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[Kristi23]

Anyone can say what they want but if this is turning into a *Bad girl Neko Geckos* Post then make a new thread focused on her. For all I care we can completely drop her out of the subject on this thread. People can believe whatever they want regarding her but it is time to move on in this post.

Often times the person accusing can come off being bad, too. That is for readers to decide. I definitely believe all the stuff about Chaz, but that doesn't mean we can't question the people bringing the info here. If she brought herself into this discussion, she can continue to be part of it. I can't tell you how many times I've decided to not to business with both parties in a BOI thread.

 

[AllisonLeigh]

Just to clarify, Darien was NOT the OP of this thread though right?

I'm a lurker so pardon me for jumping in and contributing my two cents (nice to "meet" you all by the way!) but I have been following the thread and thank god for the people who have come forward as he (Chaz) was clearly shady as all heck and putting a lot of people's collections at risk on top of his predatory behavior with the young ladies buying from him.

I'm sad to see one contributor to the thread's inappropriate behavior taking away from the OPs issue that numerous other people have backed up with proof. Don't let one bad apple turn this into an anti Darien post, make a new post if you feel like for that but it seems the Chaz issue should be taken much more seriously then Darien's silly responses (and no offense to Darien, it's a sensitive subject all around and I don't want to, nor see it necessary to make a judgement on her behavior). I understand where everyone is coming from but shouldn't we focus on the greater evil this thread has highlighted? Someone in our midst not only selling sick animals but using our community as a way to access young girls to then take advantage of?

 

[AbsoluteApril]

You've posted a screenshot about how Darien is saying it is just too much for her to come to this site.
Yet:


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If you want to nit-pick, she said she specifically was not going to visit the threads she subscribed to, not saying she wouldn't be on the site at all. Regardless, this seems to be getting kinda petty in my opinion. I feel that a lot of this is losing the focus of what this thread is about: Chaz/Avangel Reptiles.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

Just to clarify, Darien was NOT the OP of this thread though right?

This is irrelevant, anyone that makes claims in a thread is subject to question, especially in the case where they provide no proof of what they're saying. Doesn't matter who the OP is/was.

I understand where everyone is coming from but shouldn't we focus on the greater evil this thread has highlighted? Someone in our midst not only selling sick animals but using our community as a way to access young girls to then take advantage of?

I do agree with this though. I think we can expect that we will never see proof from Darien about any of the claims she made. Anything she says or has said might as well be considered complete nonsense at this point, it's not even worth mentioning. It's sad that one little girl worked so hard to change the focus of the thread to herself, but I don't think we should give her the satisfaction/attention any longer. It's just going to give her reason to do it again.

 

[nikki9093]

leo photo updates!

Because really, these guys are ar that really matter right now. it was what the original post was about. these guys....and the are stinking adorable!!!! they have gotten to big and have filled out nicely too. Oswald and Sarafina were my most worrisome of the four i got...but look at them now! Oswald hit his 60 gram mark. Find has been laying dud eggs, and I'm hoping she's DONE. she got super skinny when she laid, but still eat like a pig. go figure. lol. the other two are doing just fine too.(bubba looks "skinny",but thats just the angle of the pic and he was trying to climb out. lol. he's a fatty, i promise!)

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

Good work, Nicole.

 

[nikki9093]

Thank you! That Iswald ... He makes me smile each and everytime I open his tub.... And I do that a lot!

 

[nikki9093]

Oh my. His name is Oswald... my stupid phone wants to sub letters! How rude of my phone! Lol.

 

[Billy1138]

Yes they look great! How gratifying! Congrats.