Bad Feedback

[liltemptress7]

I received bad feedback last year & I honestly don't think the person(s) that gave it to me should've been allowed to. They gave me bad feedback because they themselves didn't know what was going on & were unable to follow the discussion properly.

I chimed in on a BOI thread involving people *I HAVE DONE BUSINESS WITH & ONE WHICH IS A PERSONAL FRIEND* After posting in their defense, this was posted to my profile. (copied & pasted)

Anyone done business... 03-15-2013 02:12 PM Is there even a James involved in this thread? I think your posts are way off base and someone who is pissed off about something else
Anyone done business... 03-15-2013 10:04 AM no need to throw insults. arent you commenting on members in the boi that you have had no dealings with?

I have a problem with this because:
1) They are questions & the person asking isn't sure what is going on so they made assumptions.
& 2) I don't even know who wrote this! How could I have answered their questions?!? If I would have replied in the thread, THEN I'd be off base!

If someone is going to give bad feedback, I dont think they should be allowed to remain anonymous or give bad feedback because they are to lazy to read 20+ pages of a thread. I wasn't mad at anyone, I was defending people I've done business with & have had no issues with. I honestly think that sometimes, when you come to someone's defense, people start getting mad that you haven't had the same experience as someone that has had a less unfortunate one. People start turning on those who don't jump on their band wagon & it's not right.

So, is there anything that could be done about this bogus feedback?

Thanks!

 

[AbsoluteApril]

Those comments were not posted to your profile, those are karma comments you received. No one can see them besides yourself (and the moderation team of course).

Karma is where people can give their opinion if they think a post was good or bad and make a comment if they feel it's necessary. You have a green box under your name which means your overall karma points are in the positive.

It's up to the person leaving the karma to decide if they want to add their name on it, otherwise, the ability to see who left karma is a perk of being a contributing member.

I hope this helps explain.

 

[Ed Clark]

Barbara, if you become a contributing member you can see who has left you good or bad karma.

Don't get overly concerned about them little green or red chicklets.

 

[liltemptress7]

ok sorry that I didnt understand it was not being shown on my profile.

But regardless, why should my karma be tarnished by someone that clearly doesn't understand what is being said in a discussion? They're asking questions & making assumptions. I think if they have questions, it should be asked through PM rather than giving bad karma, asking questions after the fact & not being able to answer.

It's obvious they don't know what is going on....it's a shame you give people the power to give bad karma to other users just because they feel like it or lack the capability to following & read a thread thoroughly.

 

[hhmoore]

Just out of curiosity, was the square next to that comment red, green, or grey?

 

[Helenthereef]

If you stay active on here, and make good interesting posts, that bad feedback will soon move down the list and you can ignore it - Karma is personal opinions, and you'll get misunderstandings now and again - nothing to worry over.

I see your little square is currently green, so it wasn't enough to put you into overall bad (red) karma. In fact if you hadn't brought it up here, no one else would ever have known...

 

[liltemptress7]

Just out of curiosity, was the square next to that comment red, green, or grey?

It was red

I dont know if it was the same person or 2 different people.

 

[liltemptress7]

Screen shot of my karma

I have pretty good karma for the most part, but this brings my karma down because they're too lazy to read everything.

 

[hhmoore]

It was two different people...and I don't believe your characterizations of them are accurate. I doubt either of them gave you negative karma without reading enough to know what's going on; though, in many cases, one doesn't have to know what is going on to have a reaction to a single post. (I don't know which post earned you those responses, so that last statement may/may not apply.)

I believe the karma is built into vBulletin - it's a common feature; though some sites do turn it off. Why NOT allow negative feedback as well as positive? It is somewhat limited, in that only contributing members can leave negative karma...and negative karma has more constraints applied to its distribution, specifically to prevent abuses.

 

[liltemptress7]

If they have an idea of what's goin on, why would they ask questions? Why not give me gray squares? The 3 good karma posts below the 2 bad ones were from the same thread.

I could understand if they're your friends & you're trying to justify their reasoning for the bad karma, but like I said, *I DID have dealings with the people in question* & I still received bad karma. They ASSUMED I've never had dealings with them & gave me bad karma because they failed to read thoroughly.

The other bad karma, they asked if there was a James involved. Yes there was, he was even posting in the same thread. Again, failing to read thoroughly.

I'm not trying to rehash on any of this old stuff, but my karma is affected because people failing to understand what is going on.

 

[hhmoore]

Those people couldn't give you grey squares - the grey ones indicate that no karma transfer could take place...it happens when a person with no (or negative) karma tries to give you some. You still get the notification, but it has no impact on your "score".

The person that commented about whether you'd actually had a transaction might not have read enough to know that...but, since the first post of that comment was "no need to throw insults", my read was that the karma hit was because of something you said in that specific) post.
The other person is the one that I would be surprised to hear made an assessment of the situation without reviewing the thread...but, without knowing what post got the hit, it's just a guessing game. (That isn't a suggestion that you link to the post - people that follow it could give/take more karma points)

As has been said - you are the only person that sees that information. (If I specifically go looking for it, I can see that you received karma, by whom, and the comments left...I cannot see the post involved, or tell with certainty if it is positive or negative). Karma is simply a peer review of your posts - similar to hitting Like on Facebook...except we also have the option to hit Dislike. Somebody tried to give me negative karma recently for pointing out that his response in an ad was unprofessional - I saw the mark, looked at my post, decided that I was comfortable that it was accurate, and promptly disregarded the negative. Sometimes knowing the identity of the karma giver is a good thing, as negative comments from some people would make me think harder about what was said...or help me understand a different viewpoint.

 

[Mistyck]

Ok, in that thread you're calling Harald antagonistic, and saying that the mods will give you an infraction for speaking your mind and just in general being a pain in the butt, and you wonder why random people gave you negative karma? Really?! And then you're going to say that it's totally unwarranted?! You even decided to tell off the admin/owner of the site and tell him that his own words should be an infraction on his own site. Real smart... Yet you want to gripe about what negative karma you got from said thread?!

Take the negative karma, and get on with it. Good gawd, it doesn't even affect anything, other than what you see. NO ONE ELSE can see it, (well now everyone can since you did a screen shot of it) and it doesn't do anything unless you have a "red block." Yours is still green, so you still have positive karma. It's not that big of a deal.

 

[hhmoore]

Hmmmm - maybe I should go back and look at that thread.
(not really that interested - Brandi's comment triggered a vague memory...but if that green square turns red tonight, I might have changed my mind, lol)

 

[WebSlave]

So, you got this feedback over a year and a half ago and it is only NOW that you are losing sleep over it and wringing your hands in agony?

 

[Mistyck]

Hmmmm - maybe I should go back and look at that thread.
(not really that interested - Brandi's comment triggered a vague memory...but if that green square turns red tonight, I might have changed my mind, lol)

Haha! I *might* have it up on my screen if ya need the link...you know, just in case you need to jog your memory even more.

 

[WebSlave]

Hmmmm - maybe I should go back and look at that thread.
(not really that interested - Brandi's comment triggered a vague memory...but if that green square turns red tonight, I might have changed my mind, lol)

Yeah, you should Harald. At one point I made the following post in reply to her, uh, postings...

Warning: You seem to be intent on proving to everyone that you don't really have a clue about the design and intent of the BOI. I am sorry, but things are here the way they are because that is how I want it to be. And you appear to want to make part of this thread about yourself as well, apparently referencing some slight, real or imagined, that you got from a moderator here in the past. Sorry, but as best I can determine, this thread is not about you.

You've been asked by at least one moderator to move such conversations to the Feedback Forum, and as best I can tell, you don't appear to be inclined to follow that advice. But please note that your continuing to ignore that suggestion is moving your off topic chatter into being an infraction of the rules here for being disruptive of the topic of this particular discussion. Infractions are warnings that continued violation of the rules can result in your being banned from this site. Please take this as sort of a "pre-infraction warning".

FYI, the moderators here are following MY rules that I have put into place concerning the BOI. This is the method I have surmised (hopefully) that is the best way to run a forum such as the BOI, so that is how it is. If I can be convinced there is a better way, then certainly I am all ears to hear such a suggestion. As long as it is new and unique, and not one I have heard dozens of times in the past, however. If you have an issue with this perspective, you are welcome to continue the discussion in the Feedback Forum, but NOT here. If this request is not clear to you, I suggest that you ask someone to explain it to you before you earn an infraction with your next off topic post in this thread. Please re-read the topic line of this thread so that you will hopefully understand what THIS thread is supposed to be about.

Another FYI, this has nothing at all to do with staff liking or not liking what you are discussing. It has to do with YOUR posting in a manner contrary to the rules I have put in place here. Please understand that there IS a difference.

Again......

 

[hhmoore]

So, you got this feedback over a year and a half ago and it is only NOW that you are losing sleep over it and wringing your hands in agony

I just found out a few days ago that I'm on somebody's "list" - never ever to be forgiven - because I have him negative karma (once) two years ago...

 

[Mistyck]

So, you got this feedback over a year and a half ago and it is only NOW that you are losing sleep over it and wringing your hands in agony?

Maybe she took to heart that you told her shape up or be ship out, and decided to ship out herself for a bit?

Either way I also still see no reason for this thread, or why she's griping about negative karma from over a year ago.

 

[WebSlave]

Maybe she took to heart that you told her shape up or be ship out, and decided to ship out herself for a bit?

Any chance she shipped off to FaceBook and suddenly remembered that negative karma that just NEEDS to be addressed here right now?

Now where did I put that gallon jug of troll-b-gone? No relation to this thread, of course, just a random thought I just had.

 

[Mistyck]

Yeah, you should Harald. At one point I made the following post in reply to her, uh, postings...



Again......

Ya big ole meanie you!

I just found out a few days ago that I'm on somebody's "list" - never ever to be forgiven - because I have him negative karma (once) two years ago...

Oooh, I guess when you do it, you do it right.