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Beware!!of Billy Rivers From Copperas Cove, Tx
- Thread starter gmherps
- Start date
HerpVenue
New member
so you pretended to be someone else to get him to post?
Doubt it.
You wanted to trash their names so badly that you pretended to be someone else.
How would pretending to be someone else get him to post?
Doubt it.
You wanted to trash their names so badly that you pretended to be someone else.
How would pretending to be someone else get him to post?
HerpVenue
New member
details details.
how far away from him are you?
did you guys ship?
did you pick it up?
Do you know what details mean?
how far away from him are you?
did you guys ship?
did you pick it up?
Do you know what details mean?
HerpVenue
New member
try posting your story from beginning to end.
what happened when where why and how
what happened when where why and how
gmherps
New member
When I got the snake on July 1st he said she had gotten over a respitory infection, and she could possibly be gravid. Well I got her home and she sounded like she had asthma. It was bad, so I got meds, adminstered 1 shot, and the next day she was dead. Bill posted on the other site that the 4 ball pythons had died, but I have not heard this except through the other site. Bill has not tried to contact me. What do you think I should do? As I see it I got screwed and I've learned lesson; I'm out 4 healthy animals and he's out 1 sick boa. Guess not all deals go your favor.
gmherps
New member
Oh yeah I almost forgot, the snake was sold to me as a female possibly gravid. After probing the snake the boa was a male!!! I did see the hemipenes. So what could all that swelling be coming from since it wasn't a female?
HerpVenue
New member
I see we are not getting anywhere.
So I will type slow.
I want you to read it slow.
Post what happened from begginning to end.
Post from the VERY BEGINNING of your talks to a second ago.
So I will type slow.
I want you to read it slow.
Post what happened from begginning to end.
Post from the VERY BEGINNING of your talks to a second ago.
NEWReptiles
New member
So you gave him four sick balls in trade for a Boa that died in your care?
Maybe you should get a hermit crab.
Maybe you should get a hermit crab.
HerpVenue
New member
yup I figured we are dealing with one of those.
So I will try again.
Post with Details from begginning to end.
From the very first time you said hello up to 3 seconds ago.
Who said what when where why and how.
DETAILS
DETAILS
DETAILS
do you understand?
All you did was answer questions....we kinda need more details than that. Try posting what happened in steps. From begginning to end.
So I will try again.
Post with Details from begginning to end.
From the very first time you said hello up to 3 seconds ago.
Who said what when where why and how.
DETAILS
DETAILS
DETAILS
do you understand?
All you did was answer questions....we kinda need more details than that. Try posting what happened in steps. From begginning to end.
HerpVenue
New member
That is nice. But anyone who deals with me knows I do not like the phone and I prefer e-mails. Keeps a record of everything.
DETAILS DETAILS DETAILS from begginning to end
gmherps
New member
Well I guess everything is left at that. I posted all that happened, and I'm sorry it doesn't work for you, but that's it. I answered your questions on page 2 and it's not good enough. Hell I'll foot the phone call.
HerpVenue
New member
Does this guy know what the word details means?
1. Who contacted who.
2. Where was the ad
3. who said what.
4. who answered
5. who said come over.
6. who said I offer four balls for a boa.
Dude.....the story from begginning to end.
Do you know what that means?
Do not just answer those questions...they are hypothetical.
Post the WHOLE STORY of what happened from begginning to end. Start with you saw an ad on such and such date.
HerpVenue
New member
Did you post all that happened?
okay.
you got a boa it died.
you sent him ball pythons it died.
End of story the end. That is all of the story right?
Or are there other details that transpired?
HerpVenue
New member
Well since you won't post details..... I guess I will
So after seeing the above conditions you still decided to do the trade.
"We live 25 miles apart.
I went to his house."
"When I got the snake on July 1st he said she had gotten over a respitory infection, and she could possibly be gravid. Well I got her home and she sounded like she had asthma. It was bad, so I got meds, adminstered 1 shot, and the next day she was dead."
1. So you wnet to his house. Checked out the snake. You liked it. Apperantly you thought it was outwardly healthy and took it home.
2. Then you administered meds. How did you know how much to give? Did the animal even see the vet?
"Oh yeah I almost forgot, the snake was sold to me as a female possibly gravid. After probing the snake the boa was a male!!! I did see the hemipenes. So what could all that swelling be coming from since it wasn't a female?"
How did you see the hemipenis?
Who probed it?
And did you know that probing a big boa like her won't show a hemipenis?
How did you see the hemipenis?
I saw the above post on another thread. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16564&perpage=10&pagenumber=5
So after seeing the above conditions you still decided to do the trade.
"We live 25 miles apart.
I went to his house."
"When I got the snake on July 1st he said she had gotten over a respitory infection, and she could possibly be gravid. Well I got her home and she sounded like she had asthma. It was bad, so I got meds, adminstered 1 shot, and the next day she was dead."
1. So you wnet to his house. Checked out the snake. You liked it. Apperantly you thought it was outwardly healthy and took it home.
2. Then you administered meds. How did you know how much to give? Did the animal even see the vet?
"Oh yeah I almost forgot, the snake was sold to me as a female possibly gravid. After probing the snake the boa was a male!!! I did see the hemipenes. So what could all that swelling be coming from since it wasn't a female?"
How did you see the hemipenis?
Who probed it?
And did you know that probing a big boa like her won't show a hemipenis?
How did you see the hemipenis?
gmherps
New member
My whole story is posted within this entire thread.
What was bought from Bill Rivers: 1- 7foot Female/male Boa
When: 7-1-03
Cost: 4 baby striped ball pythons for 1 Female Boa.
Where: At his house in Copperas Cove, Tx
Email Exchanges: Yes, on my part. After I called and spoke to him about the problem I have not heard from him. I've tried to call, no answer (I guess that caller ID works). He don't respond to any of my emails.
Problem: The snake had a SERIOUS respitory infection and died 2 days after I recieved her/him. Was going to donate to the local college, they didn't want it. Emailed Bill, said come get it if you want it. No reply, chunked the snake in the trash after it was in freezer for 5 days. Still have not heard from Bill. I had to buy meds from my vet (Genticin) 4 shots of it ran me $50, and she died after only 1 shot.
Today after I spoke to a gentleman in C.C. Tx, he said this really didn't suprise him that he did this, since Rivers had done the same to him on a couple of occasions.
He doesn't want to make it right so this is my only course of action.
Apparently 2 of my ball pythons have died within the last 2 days. But I have not heard from Mr. Rivers.
I will make my deal right if in fact he can show me dead baby ball pythons.
It was a clear and sunny morning in Texas when I saw Bill Rivers ad on the angelfire site about a 7 foot female boa. I emailed him, he responded with his phone #. I proceeded to call him and set up a time in which my daughter and myself went to his house to see this boa. Before we left on the 25 mile drive I called Bill and said," I have 4 baby ball pythons that are striped, will you be interested?" He said yes. So I took them. When I was there I wasn't thrilled about how hia animals were kept and even offered a few suggestions. The boa he had for sale/trade made a few wheezing sounds, but they were not to the point of alarm. When I inquired about the wheezing he said he had gotten over (over) a respitory infection. I said cool!
After about 1 hour and 30 minutes at his home my daughter and I left. I already had the enclosure ready for the snake, and when we got home she went in it. Later that day while on the computer I observed him/her and heard a VERY loud wheezing noise. I'm not stupid, she had not gotten over the infection. I called my vet and made an appointment for later that day. He administered Gentimicin( spelling?) And said she would need it 3 more times once every 72 hours. Well the boa never made it that far, she / he died the 2 days after. Bill has failed to respond to me an any fashion. After the snake was in the freezer for 5 days, and no response from Bill, the snake went in the trash. And by the way my trash comes on a Tuesday and Friday every week.
Is this all you want? I can't go any furthur since there is no contact.
What was bought from Bill Rivers: 1- 7foot Female/male Boa
When: 7-1-03
Cost: 4 baby striped ball pythons for 1 Female Boa.
Where: At his house in Copperas Cove, Tx
Email Exchanges: Yes, on my part. After I called and spoke to him about the problem I have not heard from him. I've tried to call, no answer (I guess that caller ID works). He don't respond to any of my emails.
Problem: The snake had a SERIOUS respitory infection and died 2 days after I recieved her/him. Was going to donate to the local college, they didn't want it. Emailed Bill, said come get it if you want it. No reply, chunked the snake in the trash after it was in freezer for 5 days. Still have not heard from Bill. I had to buy meds from my vet (Genticin) 4 shots of it ran me $50, and she died after only 1 shot.
Today after I spoke to a gentleman in C.C. Tx, he said this really didn't suprise him that he did this, since Rivers had done the same to him on a couple of occasions.
He doesn't want to make it right so this is my only course of action.
Apparently 2 of my ball pythons have died within the last 2 days. But I have not heard from Mr. Rivers.
I will make my deal right if in fact he can show me dead baby ball pythons.
It was a clear and sunny morning in Texas when I saw Bill Rivers ad on the angelfire site about a 7 foot female boa. I emailed him, he responded with his phone #. I proceeded to call him and set up a time in which my daughter and myself went to his house to see this boa. Before we left on the 25 mile drive I called Bill and said," I have 4 baby ball pythons that are striped, will you be interested?" He said yes. So I took them. When I was there I wasn't thrilled about how hia animals were kept and even offered a few suggestions. The boa he had for sale/trade made a few wheezing sounds, but they were not to the point of alarm. When I inquired about the wheezing he said he had gotten over (over) a respitory infection. I said cool!
After about 1 hour and 30 minutes at his home my daughter and I left. I already had the enclosure ready for the snake, and when we got home she went in it. Later that day while on the computer I observed him/her and heard a VERY loud wheezing noise. I'm not stupid, she had not gotten over the infection. I called my vet and made an appointment for later that day. He administered Gentimicin( spelling?) And said she would need it 3 more times once every 72 hours. Well the boa never made it that far, she / he died the 2 days after. Bill has failed to respond to me an any fashion. After the snake was in the freezer for 5 days, and no response from Bill, the snake went in the trash. And by the way my trash comes on a Tuesday and Friday every week.
Is this all you want? I can't go any furthur since there is no contact.