Bobby Pruett, Arboreals Etc (Bad Guy)

[heiser]

Maybe a refund is in order but why $40?

Philip, both you and Pruett said the pair was $20 and a hatchling albino corn isn't $40. Bobby should give you th corn snake back or refund the value you both agreed on as trade value, $20. Maybe I missed something.

I'm kinda neutral on this one. I wouldn't sell such an obvious "gamble" to a kid and that's the only reason I think Pruett should give him back the snake. Just not good PR or buisness practice. [just an aside: If I end up with a "problem" herp the worst I'll do is give it away. I take the loss, not the customer]

Regards,
John

 

[DavidBeard]

Man, this is just pathetic. Philip got ripped off plain ad simple. Sure, it may not have been a high-dollar situation, but the principle is the same nontheless. I know Philip and he is a great guy....he was taken advantage of by a person he thought he could trust. What kind of creep does that to a 15 year old kid? I though for a long time that Bobby was just "misunderstood" but I guess I was wrong....this is just sad.

Philip-I wouldn't take the corn back from him. Lord knows what kid of parasites/bugs it has picked up in his care. Just chalk it up to experience and learn that he is not to be trusted again. I'm sorry you had to learn this lesson, but there is a silver lining to every dark cloud.

 

[bcfos]

Phillip,

Chalk it up as a loss and a learning experience. I hate to say this but Bobby just doesn't care about his rep here at all bad is it is.

I would not take the albino back from him at any cost. And Bobby sending you a refund would be like a Rabbi becoming Pope, It won't happen..

I really hate you had this bad experience, but there are some folks in this business who will take you in a heartbeat, and Bobby is one of them it seems....

 

[Urban Jungles]

By the way Phil..

You may want to contact the owners of the Kentucky Reptile Show and direct them to this thread...or at least tell them your story. I know if I were organizing a show I would want only the most honest and responsible vendors to attend. Perhaps you can keep someone else from getting burned.

Good luck!

 

[ldydrgn]

Good idea, Danny!

Philip, have you told Jason about this?

 

[ScottsReptiles]

Re: Well, well, well

what a surprise is to see Scott Axel defending his good buddies Tim Bowles and Bobby Pruett.......Scott, you wouldn't happen to be a state appointed defense attorney would you?

This kids age doesn't mean anything to you Scott? That professional profanity laced e-mail to Philip.......that's okay too?

From now on, when someone makes reference to the dynamic duo of Bobby Pruett and Tim Bowles, your name needs to be right there with them. I'm sure you wouldn't have a problem with that anyway since your lacking the same qualities.........

ya ya ya.. I am sure none of us ever made mistakes like that when we were young. The kid saw two cheap snakes and did not care what shape they were in. Hopefully he now learned that price and quality are two different things.

 

[dwedeking]

Hopefully he now learned that price and quality are two different things.

And also who to buy from and who not to buy from. Hard leason learned but now he'll know to go to a more ethical seller when purchasing a new species (new for him that is).

 

[DavidBeard]

Re: Re: Well, well, well

ya ya ya.. I am sure none of us ever made mistakes like that when we were young. The kid saw two cheap snakes and did not care what shape they were in. Hopefully he now learned that price and quality are two different things.

Scott...I know Philip and he would not trade for a snake simply because it was "cheap"......he is not that kind of person. Speak about what you know.

 

[ScottsReptiles]

Re: Re: Re: Well, well, well

Scott...I know Philip and he would not trade for a snake simply because it was "cheap"......he is not that kind of person. Speak about what you know.

Really.. did you look at the picture of those snakes.. the only reason I can ever see to buy snakes like that is because they are cheap.

The kid made a mistake.. luckily it was just a 20 dollar lesson.

quote:

And also who to buy from and who not to buy from. Hard leason learned but now he'll know to go to a more ethical seller when purchasing a new species (new for him that is).

That is a lesson everyone needs to learn. I wish I learned it when I was 15.

 

[DavidBeard]

Scott, quit defending Bobby.....Philip trusted Bobby as an elder and THOUGHT Pruett was an upstanding guy who would tell the TRUTH. To take advantage od a kid like that is WRONG, no matter how you look at it. Anyone who defends this kind of behavior is just as bad as Bobby.

 

[John Apple]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Well, well, well

Really.. did you look at the picture of those snakes.. the only reason I can ever see to buy snakes like that is because they are cheap.

The kid made a mistake.. luckily it was just a 20 dollar lesson.


That is a lesson everyone needs to learn. I wish I learned it when I was 15.

Bull [man I wanna finish that word] If that was my 15 year old son I would not take this lightly and me and who the hell ever would have ...well lets just say some sort of discussion.
Ol bobby should have been on the up and up with this kid and refused the sale, better yet not even sold the snakes and froze them himself. He knowingly sold sick snakes to a kid, really tought the kid a lesson here... NOT
This is a 15 year old kid he should be welcomed in the hobby not screwed or 'tought' a lesson

 

[Urban Jungles]

Gimme a break...

Really.. did you look at the picture of those snakes.. the only reason I can ever see to buy snakes like that is because they are cheap.

Then that speaks volumes about your ethics as a herpetoculturist.

I don't think Phil would knowingly buy some animals that were a few days from death's door Scott, let's be realistic here. I think this has a little to do with Phil's inexperience and a lot to do with taking Bobby's word @ face value. Phil bought those animals in efforts to save them because Bobby gave him a false hope just to make a buck on an unsuspecting kid (Sorry for calling you "kid" Phil, I hated that as a young herper).

This is a sad case, compounded only by the way Phil was treated (and spoken to) when he tried to reach out to Bobby after the snakes expired.

No need to make this worse by laying fault with YET ANOTHER person screwed by Mr. Pruett. Really disappointing...just when I thought one could go no lower.

That is a lesson everyone needs to learn. I wish I learned it when I was 15.

Good way of thinking. Everyone should get screwed as young as possible. Nice introduction to the world of herpetoculture...Here's to a bright future in Herps.

 

[dwedeking]

luckily it was just a 20 dollar lesson

Scott this speaks volumes about why your out of the retail business. For Phillip it was a $20 lesson. Does anyone want to guesstimate how much Phillip would have spent if the seller would have been wiser? Seems Phillip posts on reptile boards, Let's try a guesstimate on how much people that read Phillip's posts would have spent?

Taking the ethical issues out of the equation how much did that $20 sale cost Bobby?

So, Scott, is this one of your quality vendors?

 

[ScottsReptiles]

Scott this speaks volumes about why your out of the retail business. For Phillip it was a $20 lesson. Does anyone want to guesstimate how much Phillip would have spent if the seller would have been wiser? Seems Phillip posts on reptile boards, Let's try a guesstimate on how much people that read Phillip's posts would have spent?

Taking the ethical issues out of the equation how much did that $20 sale cost Bobby?

So, Scott, is this one of your quality vendors?

Actually.. I was very successfull at the retail business.. It was just not a field that I wanted to make a living in.. as this is just a hobby for me.. and I was not wanting to take care of my own collection when I just spend 10 to 12 hours in the store. I've never bought from Bobby in my life.. so he was never a vendor of mine.

Should Bobby have sold those snakes in that condition? Not a chance... should that kid have bought those snakes in their state of horrible health?... not a chance.

They both messed up... live with it and move on. The kid tried to edge Bobby by threatening to use the BOI against him. Obviously Bobby does not care about that tactic very much.

Should bobby have sold the snake to a young kid? From what I can tell in his post of it.. Bobby said they snakes were hard to feed on pinky parts and the snakes obviously look like they are about to die.. but the kid re-assured Bobby he could handle it. I am sure he thought he could "save" those snakes and bring them back to health. He was wrong.

Some of you crack me up with how wrapped up you get into others people's lives and can never seem to live with the fact that someone disagrees with you.

 

[Gary O]

HMMMMMMMM

Man this just all around sucks huh.

I still have a feeling Bobby will come through and make this right.

I personaly would have never traded them snakes to Philip. I would not even of had them on my table. But that is me lol. Philip no matter what happens you have learned something that takes many along time to learn.

When looking at animals at a show or a shop look hard if you have even one doubt about it pass on it. There are tons of snakes out there to be bought. And you will come acrossed the one you want that is healthy.

Bobby
Like I said man I have a feeling you will come through and make it right. I know that you do not want to screw Philip.

Ok I will be back

 

[Seamus Haley]

Why is it that every time Bobby rips someone off or screws up a deal, he (or in this case his little sidekick... I can just see Scott posting on this thread, dressed up like Robin) tries to spread the blame for his screw up all over everyone else?

He lied to Philip about the conditions of the animal, Phil believed him because he was Bobby Pruett, supposedly a long time trustworthy dealer.

Here's a thread where he jerks someone around for even less money than he has here.

Here's a thread about the quality of his animals, in light of reccent events, does anyone still want to contend that there was no way he had unhealthy fat tails?

Here's where he traded a blind, malnourished snow boa while forgetting to mention it was blind and malnourished. Bobby, do you not feed ANY of your animals?

Here's one where we all learned that Bobby doesn't know how to ship, doesn't care about the health of his animals, never accepts responsibility... And posted a bad guy thread five minutes after writing someone an email about a situation. So the !@#$ about Bobby not responding well to BOI threads is just that... !@#$

His habits of playing fast and loose with the truth and his total disregard for the well being of the animals in his care are not new issues Scott. His refusal to accept his responsibility in situations where he screwed up isn't new either. Philip has been patient and professional and deserves to be compensated for Bobby's craptacular way of approaching this transaction.

 

[Ghi Reptiles]

Bobby Like I said man I have a feeling you will come through and make it right. I know that you do not want to screw Philip.

If he didn't want to he would have never let Philip walk away with the Candoia After a recent deal I had with Bobby I will never trust him again that's for sure. I am out $400.00 and he is laughing about all over The Reptile Room with a couple of his buddies. This guy is definately bad news in my book!

 

[Sasheena]

A lot of the people defending Bobby on here are defending the actual SALE of the animals, saying it's a good lesson learned.

SO... what lesson is Bobby teaching Philip now? That supposed-big-time sellers are liars? That their word is good for nothing?

Seems to me that Bobby is guilty of more than just taking advantage of Philip. First he lied to him about the snakes, then he lied about his whereabouts, then he laughed in his face when he tried to call him on those lies.

Seems only a twisted perverted person would think that is OKAY.

I haven't heard anyone say that Philip's snakes didn't die, or that Bobby did NOT promise to be somewhere and then not be there. Why all the focus on the sale, and sweeping under the rug the additional lies told to Philip?

Just my 2 cents.

 

[DavidBeard]

Bobby does not give a rat's a$$ about the animals or the people he screws. He is in it for the money.......which doesn't really make sense because he has severely damaged his chance of bringing in more $ by acting like he has.

I remember talking to Bobby in person once about the deal where I was screwed by Ricky Lewis for the ATB......Bobby told me he would've just thrown the snake in the freezer instead of paying for the vet bills to nurse the animal back to health. This is the kind of person we are dealing with here......he cares only for himself.

Gary.....if you think Bobby did not mean to screw Philip, you're just plain blind dude. You can be objective ALL the time man, even though I know you like to be. Bobby screwed Philip ON PURPOSE.....no if's, and's or but's about it.

 

[Gary O]

I do not jump on band wagons and sit and slam people. I see no use in it. Do I think Bobby owes Philip? Sure do. Am I defending Bobby at all? NOPE.

When I said "Bobby you really do not want to screw Philip" It was more like me saying hey man do the right thing. Not once did I say Bobby did not screw him.

Please stop putting things in my mouth/posts.

I even said I would not of even had them snakes on my table. Everyone can see that Philip is owed a snake or money.