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BRANDON AT REPTIRUS- REALLY BAD GUY.

Golden Gate Geckos said:
So, who shipped the gecko(s)?
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I went over to Brandon's house, picked up the box & geckos, added a heat pack, taped them up and they were picked up by the courier from my home. As I said, Brandon's driver won't do pickups after 11am.
 
also, if you look for it, you can see the bump slightly in the photo you first sent me. Only someone looking would know it was there.
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Do you mind posting that photo here?
 
previous photos

the photos I first sent Brandon...

I did not post those yet because he told me in email that he couldn't see the deformity very well. So, I took some more in better light.

I will post the original photos I took as well if you'd like. Also, I'll post an image of the picture he sent me originally.

KelliH,

thanks for your honest replies, thank you for not accusing me of anything. I really appreciate that.
 
Here are the photos she originally e-mailed Brandon...
 

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I will post the original photos I took as well if you'd like. Also, I'll post an image of the picture he sent me originally.
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I was wondering if you could post a photo of the gecko before you bought it though, like one that Brandon took.
 
Eh, never seen mbd cause something like that, although admitadly I have not seen that many mbd cases. Marcia used to do a ton of rescues so she has more experience in that area. It really looks to me like a bone deformity.
 
If it is in fact congenital, does that mean Brandon has recourse to go back to the original breeder for selling a deformed gecko to him?

Brittney, Brandon was more the willing to provide you with a refund upon return of the gecko. He stated that. Why did you feel it necessary to bring it to the BOI and label him a bad guy? Do you plan on apologizing to him for this? I also did not have copies of those e-mails, so my apologies for being unable to post them.
 
breeding

So Kelli,

Would you say this animal will not be able to be a breeder , as i intended?


Triple Moon,
regardless of what photos i posted first, I don't think thats even an issue, honestly. I took at least 10 today.
 
I would be more than happy to have a refund for this gecko + shipping...

brandon asked that I pay shipping for the gecko back to him, which I thought was strange.

be honest guys, if you received a gecko in this condition... you would also label someone a bad guy...

Sending someone a gecko in that condition, knowingly on unknowingly is just wrong.
 
SouthBayGeckos said:
be honest guys, if you received a gecko in this condition... you would also label someone a bad guy...
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Actually, no I wouldn't if the seller was doing everything he could to rectify the situation.
 
THIS IS THE SOLUTION I BELIEVE IS FAIR

critical bill said:
I don't know if I'd be inclined to ship the gecko back and anticipate a prompt refund when it was obviously sent to me in that condition to begin with. I think if it were me..I'd let the seller review the vet report and talk to the doc if he wanted for confirmation purposes, but I would want a full refund plus the cost of return shipping in advance before I threw away any more money.

I'm all about seeing things work out but I just dont get a feeling about the whole thing.
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Don't yo guys think this is a viable solution?
 
If it is in fact congenital, does that mean Brandon has recourse to go back to the original breeder for selling a deformed gecko to him?
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Well, if he accepted the gecko as it was (deformed, albeit not horribly), and this is a bit hypothetical of course, then I would say he is pretty much SOL. It is his responsibility to represent his geckos fairly and accurately, not the person that sold him the gecko. How old is the gecko?

Would you say this animal will not be able to be a breeder , as i intended?
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I would not breed a gecko like that, no. I try not to judge others on the choices they make with their breeding programs though, as long as they are honest with their customers and fellow breeders.

brandon asked that I pay shipping for the gecko back to him, which I thought was strange.
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No way you should have to pay the shipping charges, he should pay that and refund you the amount you originally paid him for the gecko (minus shipping charge if you are keeping any of the other geckos in the shipment. That's only fair.).

be honest guys, if you received a gecko in this condition... you would also label someone a bad guy...
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Probably not here on the BOI. If I received a gecko in that condition I would demand my money back first, as well as either an extra $50 for shipping it back to the person, or their UPS/Fed Ex account number (DHL sucks). I would never deal with the person again, nor would I recommend that person to others. I would probably not post about it here though.
 
I would have to agree with Ms Kunder. I would not issue a refund before receiving the animal back either. I would issue a full refund including shipping costs but only AFTER I had the animal in my hands.

Now a question for the experts on these animals.
Is the gecko in that photo a "mack snow het bell"?
Looking on the Reptirus.com web site for a pic match to this animal I could not find one marked sold or otherwise. In fact there is not a het "bell" listed at all.
Not saying anything beyond the fact I can't match a mack snow pic on the Reptirus with this animal. Could be it never was on the site or I don't know what I am looking at.
 
John, don't call me Ms Kunder! You make me sound old! :)
The particular female is listed on his Gallery page (like the Mack Bell was), I guess he never added it to his Available section.
 
Are there pictures of the shipping box available? Perhaps the gecko was mishandled and was injured due to human negligence.

If she had no bump when she was shipped then it either occured in transit or after it was recieved.
 
Looks like she's a 2006 per his gallery page. I don't think he realized there was anything wrong with her hip, I certainly didn't see anything nor did he ever point it out to me.
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It wouldn't be hard to miss at all, especially if you just look at the gecko in a deli cup and not really inspect it. I cannot say with 100% certainty that the photo that Brandon provided shows the issue, it's only my opinion that it does.
 
If she had no bump when she was shipped then it either occured in transit or after it was recieved.
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I'm not so sure about that. Look closely at the photo the seller provided.
 
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