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Break in at Carolina Reptile Exchange (Bruce Eisenmanns store)

I still enjoy the fact that harry came back three months after he died just to buy a piebald for his "incorporated" company that NEVER existed.

How does uncle sam tax him?
 

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Sorry my post was so brief, I was on the phone with a guy that is going to see Bruce this afternoon, he had called sheriff dept. to see if Bruce was there, they said he was posting bail at that time. That was just before noon EST. (Please give me a little leway posting hearsay for a minute, this guy says he has been reading and I think he will post soon) The gentleman I have been talking to, said that he knows Bruce's rodent supplier and Bruce gave him a check with Harry's name on it and signed Harry's name to it. I told him to get ahold of that guy and get me a copy of the check, or give a copy to the sheriffs dept. The guy that is going to see Bruce, lets call him M. said he had a couple animals at CRE on a breeding loan, when he picked them up one had an RI the other he does not even think is his animal. He has picture documentation and is going to try to get his snake back today. So Harry bailing Bruce out is not out of the question. M. is suppose to call me back later today, probably about 3:00 or so. I will let everyone know what I find out. Craig Kade
 
Thanks for posting the link with your screen capture of all the info, Ritchie. I hope the authorities are aware that this "Breach of Trust" for $1,000 - $5,000 dollars is just the tip of the iceburg compared to the $50,000 plus in interstate commerce dealing in his "hets" sold under assumed identities. I checked out his Carolina Reptile Exchange website...What a joke!!! A co-op of local breeders selling through Carolina Reptile Exchange... BULL SH_T!!! If there were even one legitimate local breeder in his "co-op", that person would be on here defending Bruce-the-PhD. Everything about this guy and his business so fake it's sickening. I sure hope the investigator looks at the big picture of all his lies and shady practices to come up with additional appropriate charges.
Paul
 
I have remained rather silent over the last few weeks regarding all this.
I just wanted to state that I am glad everyone's hard work is APPEARING to pay off. Hopefully this is not the beginning of the end for this, but yet the beginning of the authorities learning, and ACCEPTING, the many fraudulant acts that Bruce has commited over the years with more charges to follow.
My hat is off to you all and hope that some sort of justice will be served.

As a side note, I am suprised they could only get the one charge on him.
What about the checks in his dead father's name with his dead father's account?
What about the shipping of venomous snakes through a common mail carrier.
What about the neglecct to the animals he has.
What about the snakes that appeared at his house that he never reported stolen that belonged to someone else?

I guess time will tell. Hope this is not the end of it for this clown.
 
"Breach of Trust"

What this boils down to is Barry willingly consented that Bruce take possession of his snakes to be sold on consignment. The charges indicate Bruce fraudulently converted Barry's possessions to his own use, it is not considered larceny because Barry entrusted Bruce with his property. Thus, "Breach of Trust". Hope this makes sense.
Paul
 
I just talked to M. he went to CRE, the store was closed. He walked around back and Bruce was parked out back. He let him in to get his snake and paid him the money that was owed. Bruce closed the shop after that. Maybe he is ready to move on to his next scam. Look out dog breeders. LOL
 
Re: "Breach of Trust"

Paul Fisher said:
What this boils down to is Barry willingly consented that Bruce take possession of his snakes to be sold on consignment. The charges indicate Bruce fraudulently converted Barry's possessions to his own use, it is not considered larceny because Barry entrusted Bruce with his property. Thus, "Breach of Trust". Hope this makes sense.
Paul
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That makes perect sense Paul. Thank for the definition. Now for my next question. Are we positive that the breach of trust pertains to his dealing with Barry? I have not been able to find anything that shows this. If ou have a link, please post it here as I would like to read it.

Thanks in advance.
 
Michael,
Here's a re-cap from memory. Barry had several snakes at Bruce's store on consignment. When Bruce reported a theft at his store, he did not report Barry's snakes as missing, though they were no longer at the store. Later Barry posted that his snakes were found at Bruce's house and he was waiting for Bruce to be arrested and charged. Now Bruce has been arrested and charged with a crime that fits well to Barry's scenario and has no direct correlation to other issues raised on this forum. Barry is local and his issues can readily be dealt with by local authorities. I can only hope the local authorities give due diligence to the other issues we have raised regarding Bruce Eisenmann's fraudulent business activities.
Paul
 
Just a FYI

This is how I understand this. Yes, Barry did have some snakes that were taken from CRE but the snakes that the police found were not Barrys. (At least not yet)The snakes that the cops found were 2 het. albino retics (I am not sure if they were 100% het or 66% het) that Bruce had ordered for Barry.(and Bruce had paid for) Barry still owed Bruce SOME money for these snakes. That is why they were at Bruces house. Those snakes were NOT on consignment.
That is the way I understood it.
 
Conflicting stories here, check out from page 108 forward:

Posts by Barry:
Well just wanted to let everyone know what the latest is. Friday the 20th of feb the York county sheriffs called me and told me that they had recovered some snakes from the robbery. Again I had four snakes at CRE when the robbery occured that were stolen. I knew something was up when the detective wanted to meet me at CRE to get my snakes. Well when I got there he told me that they recovered two of my snakes and that Bruce had them at his house. I do not know if they recovered any of the snakes he reported missing or if they just found my two but I think this sums this one up. I hope all of you on here let your friends and buisness ass. know what CRE is all about so Bruce doesn't have a chance to do this to anyone else. As soon as I get a copy of the police report telling all this I will post a copy of it on here.
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I will clear this up a little. Bruce reported his shop getting broken into. He reported his snakes getting stolen but failed to report mine. I don't know why. When I found out the store was broken into I went there because I had snakes there. Bruce then told me that four of my snakes had been stolen to but he had not told the police that. Well ehile I was there the police came back to the store to question me and thats when they found out about my snakes. Bruce told myself and the police that his and my snakes were taken at the same time and now Bruce was found with two of my snakes. I was told hisself and one of the guys that works at the store are going to be arrested for this. But have yet to hear anything else from the police.
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This is from Barry's post on pg 82:

I also had snakes to get stolen from the shop that day. I had five snakes in the store on consignment tring to sell them to pay bills. The police had no knowledge of this until 6 hours had past from the initial report of the store getting broken in to. And guess who had to tell them. Thats right me. Bruce had not even metioned my snakes getting stolen. Upon these were 1.1 burmese pythons .1 tiger reticulated python 100% het for albino and .1 normal retic 100% het for albino. These 2 retics were my last purchase from him. They were suppossed to be from Bob Clark. Well after the robbery the police wanted paperwork on the snakes that I had stolen also.Bruce never had given me paperwork even though I had asked for it repaetedly. Well during the couse of the police investigation the officer told me to try to get the paperwork. I in turn called Bob Clark. Upon talking to Bob Clark I found out that the snakes did not come from him. They came from Ken Masick. I believe that is how he spells his name. Anyway Ken bought the tiger from Bob and it wasn't a 100% het it was a 66% poss het. The other snake came from prehistoric pets as I am told. I have not confirmed this yet but am working on it. I paid $1500.00 and have reciepts showing what they were and now i am in the process about having something done legally towards Bruce for fraudulent activity.
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I have read and understand all of the posts in this thread. What I am asking is how do we know that the breach of trust charges are related to Barry? I wanted to know if this was spelled out in a court document or something. While it is definitely not surprising if he was arrested for Barry's snakes, I have not seen any official documents confirming this. I just wanted to know if nyone knows FOR SURE. It probably is Barry's deal that got him arrested. I just wanted to know if anyone know for sure.
 
Well reptiledude , Tom, Bruce is now telling people I owed him money for all the snakes that were at his shop but if I owed him money why not just give him the snakes as payment instead of selling them in his store. He did not say he had any of my snakes until he failed his polygraph about the robbery and then thats when he had two of my snakes and says he doesn't know anything about the others. Bruce was standing there when the police got my report about all four of my snakes being stolen. It's not like I did it behind his back. He was standing 1 foot away from me. The police were still talking to him. That is also why I got my snakes back. Because he has lied about everything in this case from day one. Just like he lies to everyone he sell to. Just like M that craig is talking about. Yes I know this gentleman also and he is a great person that was having quite a few medical problems the last time I spoke with him and Bruce did the same things to him. And yes once again M was suppossed to be his friend to. He did the same things I did. Went over and tried to help Bruce once a week. But Tom if you feel like Bruce is a good person go ahead and buy some hets from him. Please do and then breed them and let me know how you turn out. I already know how you will turn out because just like the het retics I bought and most of the het balls people have bought, they are not what we bought.
 
Barry,
sorry this had to happen to you man.

That is what I dont get.
You "supposedly" owe him money that is why he was selling the snakes on consignment.
Well duh instead of consignment any NORMAL person would just say......"here since you already have them.......why don't you just take them as payment?"

Are we to believe a guy who does business under his DEAD father's name?
The same guy selling hets with only one piebald that was bought by his DEAD father.....while he was DEAD.

Come on.
At this point I would believe EVERYTHING EVERYONE says and NOTHING that bruce says..................sorry that is just my nature.
 

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Tom, you state that the snakes were not Barry's, they were Bruces and Barry had not fully paid for them yet. Law enforcement agencies do not take property from the owner, Bruce, as you stated, and hand it over to just anybody (that would be Barry). Misappropriated property is returned to the rightful owner, in this case, 2 snakes returned to Barry. Your statements are contradictory to anything discussed in this forum, therefore I'll assume your information came from Bruce-the-PhD with his infinite "knollage" of reptiles. If anybody is going to post Bruce's side of any of his lies and crimes, I want it to be Bruce "hisself". He is welcome to come on here and explain his honest business practices and dealings. Although I would also love to hear from any of the "over 22 seperate pirivate breeders" that are members of the Carolina Reptile Exchange co-op. We will greet with open arms Bruce's offer to honor all of his guarantees on the hets he sold regardless of what false identity he was using when he sold them. Until then, I will choose to believe Barry's first-hand experiences regarding Bruce. Do law enforcement agencies immediately call everyone they've interviewed when an arrest is made? No, they notify the victim.
Paul
 
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