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Info Breeding (loan?)Ariel Cudia & Aritonic

I just want it ALL to end already too. Neither party needs to speak to, or of the other period. We thought it was 3 months ago.
 
Ralph and Susan actually tried their best to keep me out of it. I was the one who recommended bringing sales to the forums, thinking it would be a great opportunity to get the names of both businesses out there.

Hunter there are other boi threads that Ariel is apart of that you can either choose to read or not. Threads that paint some of his activities a little suspicious. I feel we just need to get him here so all activity can be mediated and then further be solved.
 
I've read the thread thoroughly. Ive made my fair share of mistakes, and I don't like judging people based on something they've done wrongly and then learned from. You move forward and try to not make those mistakes again. Ariel is one of the kindest people I've ever encountered, and totally selfless as well. Stephanie is one of my favorite people. As real as some can get. These two get their fair share of bashing because people don't like hobbyists who help others. It doesn't make sense to me, but that's the way it seems to be. Aritonnic drove from Chicago to little ol' west Virginia just to be there to support me during my first reptile show. They even gave some children some ridiculous deals on geckos because they want everyone to experience the joy of owning these animals, which I find more than admirable.
 
OK OK OK already. Lets just all agree here that the main problem was, and which is usually the case.... "What we have here is a failure of communication" What a memorable line and how true it is.
Bottom line, its not my responsibility if 1 partner either doesnt tell their other partner what they are doing or if 1 of them just plain old forgets. When the all their animals were picked up from me they got em ALL, not just some, with the only exception being a male chauhoua which of them wanted to be bred with my female. And that male was returned to them the following Sunday. As I said before, that 1 partner went to every gecko tank we have and just pointed to all of theirs. She didn't even bring enough delis to pack em in and we had to give her more. I told her all deals are done except with the chahoua. I offered to pay for it right then and there. I did not say ARIEL was always bad. He came quite a few times to our house to see how every1 was doing and was actually helpful at times. Now that we don't talk to eachother anymore, all the BS comes out, and most of you are right, we all should just grow up and walk. I never said a thing till there was a post in another forum. To be the bigger person here as I stated earlier , I am willing to give her 4 or 5 of the babies we still had for sale and she could do what she wants with them. We all had positives in the dealing we had with eachother and unfortunately now little things are getting blown out of proportion. I want this to end and will even remove some postings from my FB. Let the past be just that the past and we all move on.
Oh and JB....that check was sent to the mother because, if I recall correctly, we weren't talking to the other party and wanted to be sure the check got there. The mom said she got the check and it was on her table.
 
strazkatz said:
Its just Ariel and his posse causing the usual ruckus and being the eternal victim. He pouts and screams till he gets his way but I will not cave to him. Like his problems with every1 else, he is either jealous of them or can not handle people not being in awe of him or afraid of him. He's a lowlife. and like every1 has told me...he can not be trusted and he continues to prove it time and time again. Guess the drama queen needs the drama.
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I did not say ARIEL was always bad.
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This thread reflects on you as well as those you have issues with.
 
Tough seeing arguments like this between 4 people who at one time connected as friends enjoying our hobby. I hope you guys can come to an agreement and end this quick, like tonight. I've only had dealings with Stephanie and Ariel, nothing but positive. Worked their booth at Tinley this past October. It's about the geckos and customers/hobbyist with these two, nothing but smiles, good times and taking care of people. There are good and bad in this hobby, Ariel is one of the good guys for sure.
 
Lucille, agreed. I would love to end this thread by saying we are all going our seperate ways, all being a little smarter. Hopefully it will end
 
Will, Steph talked you up real well and I as looking forward to meeting you along with seeing the amazing animals Steph said you had. And I agree with you also, lets all just take the good and bad that we all went through, and let it go. Sunday at Tinley when I gave Steph $$$$. I looked at Ariel , went up to him and said"look its a big world out there and Im sure when can coexist and then shook his hand. Ans your right, all 4 of us went to Repticon and Sewerfest together. Repticon I believe we just met there but afterwards we all went to Culivers I believe to eat and talk. There were some really good times. But to tell you the truth, I still dont wish I never met them. There were some really fun times and I believe we all benefitted from our relationship in 1 way or another. Sometimes we all just have to pull up our bigboy pants and just walk away and leave matters be.
 
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Sorry.. I have been busy at work and do not have a computer handy at the moment. I have attached proof that my partner was hospitalized while these gecko babies were being sold. Ralph and Susan were also non sympathetic and sent a check to buy her half of ownership on a gecko without notification or discussing the animal.
 

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Thank you for the kind words Ralph, I hope we can all meet and hangout after this is settled. I bet if Stephanie gave you guys back your check and you gave her the female you went halves on, this will all end. It is about principle with Ariel and not money. To him you guys tried to get that female while Stephanie was in the Hospital. Just my 2 cents, I know you guys can end this and it would be good for the community.
 
You mentioned that we owed you for services when it was not agreed upon before these geckos were handed to your care. I am not going tit for tat with you on expenses because we can go at this all day. I am not by any means petty. I love seeing people get started in the industry and I would bend backwards to help.
You had stated that there was a transaction made for ledges and a shiny new quarter for 3 breeder girls (produced xx amount) which is false. Stephanie would never sell any of them if you say you know her.
If you knew she was in the hospital, did you think it was an opportunity to buy the gecko from underneath her? You did not make the check out to her. Why can't she give you the other half of the payment to buy you out since she originally purchased the gecko in full, found the gecko, and spoke to you about it.
 

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Will, that was not the point of the check. It was , well if we are not speaking none of this can work, the babies weren't hers..shes only31 grams right now. When we got her we gave Steph our half for her right away, the check was buying out her part only. The babies being sold were out of Sub and Par which were mine the 3rd girl in there was Toffee. Toffee was the loan. There is 1 incident that occured that would bring the truth about Sub and Par ( girls Steph bought from Rick Guiterrez (sp) It is also the same incident that started the tear between us. I never wanted to mention what it was but I will or you can message me on FB. and I will tell you personally.
 
Ariel, only Toffee was the loan. She couldnt keep Sub and Par because who they came from. Do you want me to fresh your memory here or should Will message me then tell you personally? I may be a SOB at times but somethings I still don't want to put out there unless you want me to. I would rather tell Will and he tell you.
 
or we can just do it anbother way with that girl...we have her now and she wont be at weight for a while..we will use here this yr and next and she can keep her after that. We do see eachther at AAE all the time so some1 can bring it to you.Thats fair I get 2 seasons you get all the rest.
 
Ariel..are you saying all you want is to buy us out of that girl and everything is DONE?
And will you finally give me the lineage for the chewies we bought from you?
 
Ralph buddy, I understand all the anger and emotions. If you feel more comfortable talking to me I am here for ya. Giving that girl back will calm things and end it. I assure you that! A fair trade.
 
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