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Info Breeding (loan?)Ariel Cudia & Aritonic

Kevin, all this started because of his postings on the other site. This thread was started as a response. PERIOD
But Kevin, what you are saying is good. It is time to just compromise and end it.
In all honesty, best of your posts. TY
 
Dirt? In Ariels face? What about him DRAGGING me out, knowing that he wasn't going to accept ralph into supermodel exotics? He could have sent me a pm, asking me to remove the animals for sale after explaining the situation. Who's face got dirt thrown in it first? Simply because ralph made a post on his business facebook about issues with an anonymous breeder? Ariel went and made a fool out of ralph on his. Who likes being called an elderly couple? I'm sorry, but that is dirt. That's a lot of dirt in ralphs face. So I'd like you to rethink who needs to clean their face off more.

I'm aggressive in this post. And it's actually the first post I've made that is. I will not stand any longer for you and all of Ariels friends sticking up for him, when I'm told to not stick up for mine. No one else, but ariel, stephanie, ralph, and Susan know the complete true story. So how about we keep it between them.

I'm willing to post them if ariel continues to make himself out to be the huge victim in this. Or stephanie either for that matter. I actually had a girl interested in purchasing geckos. She actually went to the extent of messaging ariel seeing if he would sell the animals to her after everything was situated. Way happened? He BLOCKED her. This poor girl feels ripped off and just wants to be able to purchase the females she is interested in. I also messaged stephanie and haven't heard a word back, and so has the the woman. So yeah, I'm a little ticked off. I'll see if she will post as I know anonymous third parties are not aloud. I just want people to know of this little transgression. I'd also like to state that when I messaged ariel over the matter he stated they were stephanies animals to let go of and I should message her. So if they are hers, why isn't she posting?
 
beballs said:
I actually had a girl interested in purchasing geckos. She actually went to the extent of messaging ariel seeing if he would sell the animals to her after everything was situated. Way happened? He BLOCKED her. This poor girl feels ripped off and just wants to be able to purchase the females she is interested in.
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Not sure when that happened, but just to be clear, are you sure he blocked her? His whole facebook page is gone right now, which looks similar to being blocked from someone.
 
I've sent you messages on Facebook Collette. And I'm sorry you got dragged into that post.

But, this post is about ariel and Ralph settling there agreement /disagreement

If you feel the need you could make your own post or post in his boi right? I think you handled yourself well on that Facebook post, and then you said your peace and walked away.
 
I didn't think of that. Thank you JB for making that known. I'll let the girl know as well his Facebook is gone. Im glad you looked up his account, I simply imagined he had blocked me too. I'm sorry for jumping off the handle, but this whole situation has everyone on edge. Especially when I have someone who's extremely upset, not a part of the situation, telling me she was blocked for wanting animals she is interested in.
 
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Supermodel Exotics, aritonic and his personal page are ALL his pages. he made em and controls em JB
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I'm aware he made them. I'm saying his personal page is currently down. If the person messaged him yesterday asking about the gecko, and he closed his account (hopefully just for some time to cool down, which I think might be wise right now), it can look to the potential buyer like he had blocked her before answering her. The messages from him in my inbox on facebook just show up currently as from "Facebook User." I'm pretty sure he didn't block me.

That said... I am not sure why anyone would want to try to buy a gecko while all of this is going on. I would definitely want to sit it out. Not sure why the person in question would feel "ripped off" though unless money switched hands.
 
No money was exchanged. She simply stated that she was ready to make a purchase. After it all I explained to her that the geckos were still a free for all, and it's first come first serve basis. I'm imagining her mind was simply really set on purchasing them.
 
I thought that this has come to a resolution.. Ralph I have told you the name and maybe you have forgotten because at the time you cared for them they weren't yours. Hence, the name Tim comes to mind in your posts. As for the thread on Supermodels, I clearly stated that "I will let him in" after all I am the admin and so are three other folks who I did notify in the post to accept them in the group. Collete, I took down my FB to basically cool down as what JB stated. I also have a message on Aritonnic from you regarding geckos being sold (not quite sure) or rather but you held them back due to the dispute of ownership. I replied to you and said that you would have to talk with Stephanie about them. With your permission Collette, I would like to post that discussion between you and I on Aritonnic by taking screenshots.
Ralph, I requested not "demanded" the terms we both agreed on earlier sites in this thread. If I am not good to my word, then please post it here on this thread you started to prove your point. Otherwise, keep your word on our agreement. I will give you his full name (FB search), screenshots (pm stating lineages), and his phone number (permission granted) without hesitation. Read the agreements closely that were agreed upon earlier closely. Thank you and have a good day.
 
beballs said:
I'm aggressive in this post.
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While I understand everyone is on edge, if everyone gets aggressive, no one is going to sit down and work out an acceptable compromise.



beballs said:
No one else, but ariel, stephanie, ralph, and Susan know the complete true story.
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Are you saying that they deliberately have kept the full truth from their posts here, or what exactly are you saying? It's important: if the situation here is being deliberately misrepresented it certainly reflects on the parties involved.

The BOI is not FB. This is a business forum. Deliberately incendiary tactics and deliberate misrepresentations are not favorably regarded.
I am interested in hearing Ariel's response to Ralph's proposal.
 
Acurit1 said:
I requested not "demanded" the terms we both agreed on earlier sites in this thread. If I am not good to my word, then please post it here on this thread you started to prove your point. Otherwise, keep your word on our agreement.
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Ariel, for the sake of clarity could you please post the terms of the agreement again, here.
 
You can imagine how I rushed to a conclusion. Being she came to me being very unhappy. I would actually really appreciate you posting on aritonnic of what transpired between us. I really felt it was unfair. Please, I'm dead serious in the future don't pull someone out like that. I would have done as you asked if you had messaged me privately. Last thing I want to do is make enemies.
 
I am sorry Lucille, I am doing this through my phone. I thought it was resolve on page 5 on this thread. If I am wrong, then this need further clarity. I am having a hard time trying to get the quotes. I am out with my family as I am writing this.
 
Everything I stated was the truth.I'm way too old to play games. Gettin close to that 60 mark, I dont play games. The agreement at 1st was let Steph pay us off for the gecko, which wound up you wanting to give us back our uncashed check that was for buying her out, she still has the $175 in cash she got when that girl came. I said, so you just want that? Then you came back saying the other babies were for my info. No1 ever got back to us and even Will said to make a counter offer so that both parties gave a little and took a little. He's cool. SO after reading it all again, I realized there was no compromise just 1 sided benefits. Lets just be fair, thats all I ask.She gets the girl, we get our check back.....you get 3 geckos I get my lineage and we're done. Its that easy.
Lets end this like gentlemen and both walk away from eachother forever. Consider all the care for your animals here in this too, please. That was a lot of time, effort and money on our part caring for all of them.
 
Acurit1 said:
I want the five offered geckos for the chahouha lineage, the gecko bought by Stephanie for your check returned. As for the rest that you sold or have not sold, they are yours.
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strazkatz said:
I will gladly give you ( Steph ) the female we both bought along with the other babies upon the return of our check.
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strazkatz said:
She gets the girl, we get our check back.....you get 3 geckos I get my lineage and we're done.
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Ariel?
 
What gets me Collette is that you knew about what transpired between Ralph and I. You heard his side of the story with the thought that it was okay to sell those geckos. Instead of asking our side of the story, you proceeded to sell those geckos without considering our side. I apologize that I handled it in that matter, but in our minds, we thought you did not care who they really belonged to.
 
You're only two geckos apart from a deal.
Wrap up this deal please. Be flexible.
 
Acurit1 said:
What gets me Collette is that you knew about what transpired between Ralph and I. You heard his side of the story with the thought that it was okay to sell those geckos. Instead of asking our side of the story, you proceeded to sell those geckos without considering our side. I apologize that I handled it in that matter, but in our minds, we thought you did not care who they really belonged to.
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Ariel, first finish playing the Superbowl, THEN you can talk about the plays. :D
 
You said a woman's name that's not on my FB list of friends. If she sent a message it maybe in my "other" mail folder.
 

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