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Bad Guy Buyer Beware Keith Cantore AKA Albinocollector

Good find, in the other BOI it states that he was in jail for some time. Now we all know for what. You were already on the never buy from list, but now its set in stone. Unfortunate for you, you chose the wrong place to scam something this time.

Jay Gonzalez
 
That there are real questions about Keith and his business practices present and past, and the hotheaded way that Keith posts do not in my opinion automatically validate John's unsupported accusations.
Keith deserves what is coming to him, but if he sold John a healthy turtle, he does not deserve to be hung for this transaction.

John has chosen not to post any of the proof he says he has. Each of you who sells critters, or who has friends that sell critters, ask yourself if you would want your or their names smeared by anyone who would make accusations and then not back those accusations up when they had proof?

Would you want John to buy from you? Would you want to have your name up here as a bad guy two months after a sale by someone who refuses to post proof he says he has?
 
Yeah, they're old ...but is this you, Keith? Monee & Frankfort, IL locations are too coincidental to ignore.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-83141.html

How about this? Is this you too, Keith? It may take a few minutes to load, but it's a good link.
http://www.pjstar.com/x726385419/Two-guilty-in-turtle-trafficking-case

And this? Scroll down to where it says "Pending Counts".
http://www.freecourtdockets.com/doc...5-illinois-central-district-court-docket.html

OP did not provide evidence to back his claims; seller's background/history provides enough serious evidence to question his integrity, his honesty and his concern for the animals he passes off.

Both go on the don't sell to, don't buy from list.

And as Harald asked ... "You are not a business, yet you have 1000 snappers/year pass through your hands? How does that work?"

State, feds and buyers might want to ask the same :)

Laura I see you have no lifeto talk down on someone what does any of that have to do with teh HEALTH and live animals I trade or sell ??? Nothing there says animal ABUSE unhealthy or theft !!! readthat Fauan scam ad you posted all the way through then think about it I proved everything and then He shut his mouth for good cause he didnt want his Lies to be seen besides the fact I proved him a LIAR and remember PEOPLE all of you who are bad mouthing Me here saying I proved myself this and that . Your just here trying to bash someone cause you have nothing Better to do !! Im here cause someone was lieing about Me and Yes My grammar sucks I hate typing oh well it doesnt effect my daily life and it shouldnt effect yours !! IM done here John has lied and proven that I have showed proof hes lied DONE DEAL . I have better things to do then go back and fourth with a Person who is not enjoying there Life and needs to dig up flaws on another persons Past !!! . have a nice day everyone Im done with this thread for good you guys are not even here for the reason on this post its getting to be a joke and pretty funny Im seriously laughing that someone would talk about me typeing and capitalizing a Word < Oh there you got me !! see now I can be a smart ass like someon said earlier get real I have a life by !!
 
Laura I see you have no lifeto talk down on someone what does any of that have to do with teh HEALTH and live animals I trade or sell ??? Nothing there says animal ABUSE unhealthy or theft !!! readthat Fauan scam ad you posted all the way through then think about it I proved everything and then He shut his mouth for good cause he didnt want his Lies to be seen besides the fact I proved him a LIAR and remember PEOPLE all of you who are bad mouthing Me here saying I proved myself this and that . Your just here trying to bash someone cause you have nothing Better to do !! Im here cause someone was lieing about Me and Yes My grammar sucks I hate typing oh well it doesnt effect my daily life and it shouldnt effect yours !! IM done here John has lied and proven that I have showed proof hes lied DONE DEAL . I have better things to do then go back and fourth with a Person who is not enjoying there Life and needs to dig up flaws on another persons Past !!! . have a nice day everyone Im done with this thread for good you guys are not even here for the reason on this post its getting to be a joke and pretty funny Im seriously laughing that someone would talk about me typeing and capitalizing a Word < Oh there you got me !! see now I can be a smart ass like someon said earlier get real I have a life by !![/QUo OH yes and its not rocket science People if a farmer gives me 1000 snappers morphs and weird ones !! I send them over seas at what I paid for them what happens OH I get mine free wow that was hard to figure out !! man some of you here are just insane your thinking and NOSYNESS !! how about instead of trying to Rip on the guy who proved he did no wrong and there was no proof from the LIAR who claimed wrong you ripp on him ??? Insane . and TRY READING the First BOI against me in 2006 to the end before you say anything next time its the same as this guy a Angry scammer didnt get his way
 
Good find, in the other BOI it states that he was in jail for some time. Now we all know for what. You were already on the never buy from list, but now its set in stone. Unfortunate for you, you chose the wrong place to scam something this time.

Jay Gonzalez

Feel free to think what you want in the end the truth of this matter is The only reason Im on here is I dont liek Liars !!! so John deserves to be found out !!! and your not even here for teh real purpose of this this thread your here to bash me wich youve never met !! If you people want to bash anyone at least have the heart to meet the person at a show and do it face to face now a coward behind a screen !! get real . Your damn right I have apast I was in my teens and 20s having the time of my life and you know why I was in prison huh ?? laura found 1 I was in for firearms charges when Joe ripped me off and posted this why do you think he waited till I couldnt argue it for years to post it the deal was in OCT 2005 he posted on fauna in 2006 when he new I was gone cause I told him I was leaving jan 20th !!! . the Real TRUTH of it all is that this thread really doesnt matter I dont sell to public really on here so everyones bashing and Hating on Me does nothing to me Feel free to wave a flag with my name on it like your doing I no longer care . this is a joke Unbelievable how You know nothing but come in Judging I hope it happens to you or a family or your kids on a real stand the Jurry of 12 then Im sure you wont be pokin sticks and digging up anything .!
 
That there are real questions about Keith and his business practices present and past, and the hotheaded way that Keith posts do not in my opinion automatically validate John's unsupported accusations.
Keith deserves what is coming to him, but if he sold John a healthy turtle, he does not deserve to be hung for this transaction.

John has chosen not to post any of the proof he says he has. Each of you who sells critters, or who has friends that sell critters, ask yourself if you would want your or their names smeared by anyone who would make accusations and then not back those accusations up when they had proof?

Would you want John to buy from you? Would you want to have your name up here as a bad guy two months after a sale by someone who refuses to post proof he says he has?
Yes Lucille I do get a lil Hot headed but if you new me in person Im actually laughing when I argue back with facts Im not mad Im just smart enough to prove my case and strong enough to not let anyone bad mouth me or anyone with Lies !! Fell free to point out truth that your certain of on anyone . but people here are not here for the Purpose there here to bash you seem to be 1 of the only few people to be here for the real reason the truth !! its sad some people have nothing better to do . as for Me I dont need to lie and cover things up !! I had a rough young life and never once have been acuse of bad animals I put all my $$ into them before my own I have many many people that would back that up . This thread is BS and nothing other then that people digging up and Googling My name !!! haha WOW . I raise the best albino turtles and tortoises in the world care wise !! Im not bragging Im just telling it how it is I do not sell sick or dieing animals I had over 70 Hypo snappers when john wouldve purchased his 2 months ago why would I give him a sick one ?? makes absaloutly no sense I still have 24 flawless snappers I dont need this crap here would make no sense to screw this guy out of chump change and have a BAD arguement with everyone here I dont even personally keep the turtle he got they just break down the price on my albinos theres not even a profit in it but to get mine cheaper I keep genetic snappers not Hypos that are not genetic so for me to screw john would be absaloutly pointless . Anyone who knows me and reads all thsi will already know that though .
 
I had a rough young life
And you are free to explain that or anything else here that you wish in a courteous manner, you do not need to mock people by telling them they have no life. You owe Laura an apology. Apologize now.
 
bad guy Keith Contore aka Albinocollector

OK, first off I would like to apologize to everyone on this thread for not resonding quicker. I work 60 hours a week and have a large reptile collection that I tend to. 2nd the reason I have not posted the Vet bill I have in hand is because I don't know how to do this (post items) on threads. This is all new to me. I would not be even posting if Keith did send me a healthy turtle to begin with. I am going to contact the Vet's office this week to see if I can get a detailed exam report. If anyone on this thread is willing to help me post these papers, i would appreciate that. It will show the turtle was ill and came in sick. Wait, I have a great idea, Keith why don't I send you the paper work (exam/bill) and you can post them for me. You do a great job posting and that would benefit both of us and clear up this Vet matter. The other matter that I would like to address is that I have a lot of knowledge on the snapping turtle species. After 52 years I might have learned something. I know all baby turtles come with soft shell edges that disappears when they grow and get their Vitamin A and calcium intake. Now let me explain Keith's turtle. The day it came in I removed it from the shipping box to examine it. That's when I noticed the whole shell and it's edges were as soft as a Gummy Bear left in the sun. I then placed the turtle into a hospital tank or (quarantine tank). Upon placing the turtle in the tank a large amount of bubbles came out it's nose and mouth, blocked air passage. All turtle people know that is a bad sign. I kept checking on the turtle all day long and the next day the turtle never moved from the spot I placed it in with it's chin lying on the bottom of the tank. That showed me it was lethargic, a very bad sign. I then decided to treat this turtle myself, raise the temperature to 80 degrees, water changes daily with zero water, tried to feed it, would only eat small bits of Kale. That stopped after 3 days. I tried force feeding with a syringe crushed reptromin, calcium powder, vitamin supplement, the turtle got worse. A trip to the Vet at $137.00, injections, more medication. I think everyone can see the picture here. Now the reason why I did not call Keith is quite evident by his posts here. Probably a response of "when I shipped that turtle it was healthy" or the use of the other word I have learned that he has mastered. Yep, Yep, Yep. Keith 22 years experience and you thought that shell was ok. Let's face it Keith, you saw I was an easy mark, out of state, oh what can he do or know. What recall did I really have. I trusted you, you stated you would send me a great turtle. In the months of Sept. and Oct. I purchased a total of 8 snapping tutrles including yours for a total sum of $700.00. Would a person that did not know what he was doing spend that type of money? I think not. I offered to send you the Vet paperwork to post, the ball is in your court. Laura B, I would like to thank you very very much for your post. That brought out some true colors. I knew there was more to this guy (Keith). I just could not put my fingers on it. I would like to state one more time I am a hobbyist, not a scammer or cyber bully or looking for a free turtle. And I will state again that I don't want another turtle or any sums of money back from you Keith. I told you that on the phone call. I just want JUSTICE and LET THE BUYER BEWARE. Laura B your thread was very informative about the Federal law on selling turtles under 4 inches....Thanks P.S. Does Keith have a TOS? I don't know. I could not even get a tracking # out of him.
 
and have a large reptile collection that I tend to
I purchased a total of 8 snapping tutrles including yours for a total sum of $700.00. Would a person that did not know what he was doing spend that type of money?

Somehow I do not believe that someone with a large collection and who buys turtles 7 at a time does not know that one has to inform the seller of a receipt of an unsatisfactory animal in a timely manner. Regardless of how you think the seller might respond, it is on you to notify preferably by email so you have a record.

I'm sure you will post your paperwork shortly, with dates the turtle was seen etc.
 
John if you have a phone to take a picture of the paperwork you have and can get the picture onto your computer, I will pm you with the rest of the steps to get the picture posted.
 
Regardless who is at fault, Keith is someone to avoid doing business with and anyother who decides to use Shipnex against company policy.

Shipnex is not authorized to ship reptiles PERIOD. They stated this already, and To use them to be cheap only insinuates many things about a seller IMO
 
OK, first off I would like to apologize to everyone on this thread for not resonding quicker. I work 60 hours a week and have a large reptile collection that I tend to. 2nd the reason I have not posted the Vet bill I have in hand is because I don't know how to do this (post items) on threads. This is all new to me. I would not be even posting if Keith did send me a healthy turtle to begin with. I am going to contact the Vet's office this week to see if I can get a detailed exam report. If anyone on this thread is willing to help me post these papers, i would appreciate that. It will show the turtle was ill and came in sick. Wait, I have a great idea, Keith why don't I send you the paper work (exam/bill) and you can post them for me. You do a great job posting and that would benefit both of us and clear up this Vet matter. The other matter that I would like to address is that I have a lot of knowledge on the snapping turtle species. After 52 years I I might have learned something. I know all baby turtles come with soft shell edges that disappears when they grow and get their Vitamin A and calcium intake. Now let me explain Keith's turtle. The day it came in I removed it from the shipping box to examine it. That's when I noticed the whole shell and it's edges were as soft as a Gummy Bear left in the sun. I then placed the turtle into a hospital tank or (quarantine tank). Upon placing the turtle in the tank a large amount of bubbles came out it's nose and mouth, blocked air passage. All turtle people know that is a bad sign. I kept checking on the turtle all day long and the next day the turtle never moved from the spot I placed it in with it's chin lying on the bottom of the tank. That showed me it was lethargic, a very bad sign. I then decided to treat this turtle myself, raise the temperature to 80 degrees, water changes daily with zero water, tried to feed it, would only eat small bits of Kale. That stopped after 3 days. I tried force feeding with a syringe crushed reptromin, calcium powder, vitamin supplement, the turtle got worse. A trip to the Vet at $137.00, injections, more medication. I think everyone can see the picture here. Now the reason why I did not call Keith is quite evident by his posts here. Probably a response of "when I shipped that turtle it was healthy" or the use of the other word I have learned that he has mastered. Yep, Yep, Yep. Keith 22 years experience and you thought that shell was ok. Let's face it Keith, you saw I was an easy mark, out of state, oh what can he do or know. What recall did I really have. I trusted you, you stated you would send me a great turtle. In the months of Sept. and Oct. I purchased a total of 8 snapping tutrles including yours for a total sum of $700.00. Would a person that did not know what he was doing spend that type of money? I think not. I offered to send you the Vet paperwork to post, the ball is in your court. Laura B, I would like to thank you very very much for your post. That brought out some true colors. I knew there was more to this guy (Keith). I just could not put my fingers on it. I would like to state one more time I am a hobbyist, not a scammer or cyber bully or looking for a free turtle. And I will state again that I don't want another turtle or any sums of money back from you Keith. I told you that on the phone call. I just want JUSTICE and LET THE BUYER BEWARE. Laura B your thread was very informative about the Federal law on selling turtles under 4 inches....Thanks P.S. Does Keith have a TOS? I don't know. I could not even get a tracking # out of him.

So you have fifty two years experience? How old were you when you started? You are not a young buck. Yet you work 60 hours a week AND take care of all those pets? Are you Clark Kent?
 
OK, first off I would like to apologize to everyone on this thread for not resonding quicker. I work 60 hours a week and have a large reptile collection that I tend to. 2nd the reason I have not posted the Vet bill I have in hand is because I don't know how to do this (post items) on threads. This is all new to me. I would not be even posting if Keith did send me a healthy turtle to begin with. I am going to contact the Vet's office this week to see if I can get a detailed exam report. If anyone on this thread is willing to help me post these papers, i would appreciate that. It will show the turtle was ill and came in sick. Wait, I have a great idea, Keith why don't I send you the paper work (exam/bill) and you can post them for me. You do a great job posting and that would benefit both of us and clear up this Vet matter. The other matter that I would like to address is that I have a lot of knowledge on the snapping turtle species. After 52 years I might have learned something. I know all baby turtles come with soft shell edges that disappears when they grow and get their Vitamin A and calcium intake. Now let me explain Keith's turtle. The day it came in I removed it from the shipping box to examine it. That's when I noticed the whole shell and it's edges were as soft as a Gummy Bear left in the sun. I then placed the turtle into a hospital tank or (quarantine tank). Upon placing the turtle in the tank a large amount of bubbles came out it's nose and mouth, blocked air passage. All turtle people know that is a bad sign. I kept checking on the turtle all day long and the next day the turtle never moved from the spot I placed it in with it's chin lying on the bottom of the tank. That showed me it was lethargic, a very bad sign. I then decided to treat this turtle myself, raise the temperature to 80 degrees, water changes daily with zero water, tried to feed it, would only eat small bits of Kale. That stopped after 3 days. I tried force feeding with a syringe crushed reptromin, calcium powder, vitamin supplement, the turtle got worse. A trip to the Vet at $137.00, injections, more medication. I think everyone can see the picture here. Now the reason why I did not call Keith is quite evident by his posts here. Probably a response of "when I shipped that turtle it was healthy" or the use of the other word I have learned that he has mastered. Yep, Yep, Yep. Keith 22 years experience and you thought that shell was ok. Let's face it Keith, you saw I was an easy mark, out of state, oh what can he do or know. What recall did I really have. I trusted you, you stated you would send me a great turtle. In the months of Sept. and Oct. I purchased a total of 8 snapping tutrles including yours for a total sum of $700.00. Would a person that did not know what he was doing spend that type of money? I think not. I offered to send you the Vet paperwork to post, the ball is in your court. Laura B, I would like to thank you very very much for your post. That brought out some true colors. I knew there was more to this guy (Keith). I just could not put my fingers on it. I would like to state one more time I am a hobbyist, not a scammer or cyber bully or looking for a free turtle. And I will state again that I don't want another turtle or any sums of money back from you Keith. I told you that on the phone call. I just want JUSTICE and LET THE BUYER BEWARE. Laura B your thread was very informative about the Federal law on selling turtles under 4 inches....Thanks P.S. Does Keith have a TOS? I don't know. I could not even get a tracking # out of him.
BY all Means I will gladly post the Vet Bill for you !!! Email it to me and I will get it posted tomorrow for you !!! John that hole situation where you claim you think what I wouldve said is BS and exactly that cause had you seriously Called me you wouldve had a new turtle at no cost shiped to you . You need to Man up and except what you did here was wrong you never called me cause that Turtle was not sick when you got it and tahts a fact !!!! that turtle wasnt but a month old when I shiped it to you and lets be real John You just stated something Totally diffrent now the turtle all of a sudden had RI infection with bubbles coming out of its nose really ??? You do realize if in fact that turtle had 'bubbles out of its nose and soft shell like a gummy bear ' when you recived it its Impossible for it to be ALIVE TODAY !!!! Get real man no one does this BOI for there satisfaction of you care that others dont get screwed come on !! the other night one the phone you wanted a turtle and that was the reason you called me and when I told you not Free You got Ignorant and hung up and posted this . Dont make Me waste My time and get every Turtle expert to get on here and call your BS on this types of sickness's you claim and the turtles still alive !!!! Im a turtle collector and have seen all sickness from parasites to RI infections soft shell < wich is metabloic Bone disease . A hatchling turtle 1 month old does not stand a freaking chance if it had metabloic bone disease its also damn near impossible to even have that problem at a month old as it just started to eat and hasnt had long enough in life to be deprived of sun light and vitamins give me a break youve gone to far with lies . Im curious to if you even have vet papers or if your in the process of getting some made or some how forging some . and By all means if you do send me some I will post them and I will call this vet myself and also have My very reputable Reptile vet call your vet also to check . say for some Freak incident your turtle got sick through shiping wich I dont believe it did or it wouldve been dead now had you called or emailed to let me know You wouldve never had this problem but BOTTOM LINE YOU DID NOT DO THAT !!!! so regardless Im not at fault here I was never given a fair chance to replace it at the time or even week this took place so no matter what that Vet bill is to say really does not matter in this circumstance cause Yes it can happen that a animal arrives sick and does happen to many . But I honestly dont believe that was the case here . Feel free to email me that bill id still like to see it.anyone else that cares to judge by my BACKROUND you dug up or my crappy typing feel free you dont really know the Tone im using when typing sometimes thinsg typed arent the way I would say it in person if your so intrested in this feel free to call and ask anytime 708 514 7647 I have nothing to hide
 
BY all Means I will gladly post the Vet Bill for you !!! Email it to me and I will get it posted tomorrow for you !!! John that hole situation where you claim you think what I wouldve said is BS and exactly that cause had you seriously Called me you wouldve had a new turtle at no cost shiped to you . You need to Man up and except what you did here was wrong you never called me cause that Turtle was not sick when you got it and tahts a fact !!!! that turtle wasnt but a month old when I shiped it to you and lets be real John You just stated something Totally diffrent now the turtle all of a sudden had RI infection with bubbles coming out of its nose really ??? You do realize if in fact that turtle had 'bubbles out of its nose and soft shell like a gummy bear ' when you recived it its Impossible for it to be ALIVE TODAY !!!! Get real man no one does this BOI for there satisfaction of you care that others dont get screwed come on !! the other night one the phone you wanted a turtle and that was the reason you called me and when I told you not Free You got Ignorant and hung up and posted this . Dont make Me waste My time and get every Turtle expert to get on here and call your BS on this types of sickness's you claim and the turtles still alive !!!! Im a turtle collector and have seen all sickness from parasites to RI infections soft shell < wich is metabloic Bone disease . A hatchling turtle 1 month old does not stand a freaking chance if it had metabloic bone disease its also damn near impossible to even have that problem at a month old as it just started to eat and hasnt had long enough in life to be deprived of sun light and vitamins give me a break youve gone to far with lies . Im curious to if you even have vet papers or if your in the process of getting some made or some how forging some . and By all means if you do send me some I will post them and I will call this vet myself and also have My very reputable Reptile vet call your vet also to check . say for some Freak incident your turtle got sick through shiping wich I dont believe it did or it wouldve been dead now had you called or emailed to let me know You wouldve never had this problem but BOTTOM LINE YOU DID NOT DO THAT !!!! so regardless Im not at fault here I was never given a fair chance to replace it at the time or even week this took place so no matter what that Vet bill is to say really does not matter in this circumstance cause Yes it can happen that a animal arrives sick and does happen to many . But I honestly dont believe that was the case here . Feel free to email me that bill id still like to see it.anyone else that cares to judge by my BACKROUND you dug up or my crappy typing feel free you dont really know the Tone im using when typing sometimes thinsg typed arent the way I would say it in person if your so intrested in this feel free to call and ask anytime 708 514 7647 I have nothing to hide
You also mentioned John something about vitiman A and calcium !! Its Vitiman D that goes with to make the turtle Absorb its Calcium so are you certain you have 52 years experiance cause im only 33 and no this ? with out D it wil just crap out all the calcium and there for go soft over time
 
Keith just give me time to get the vets exam report. And I will mail you both copies. Oh ya you are so right thats why the vet gave him a vitiam A shot. Also if you know anything about snapping turtles, they are the most hardiest animal out there, I have animals from the wild with broken shells and dieases that I have tended to, live up to a year. Also would like to inform you the turle has expired. Just like I told you the other nite. I will keep it frozen may need it doewn the road. This thread is showing poeple what type of person you really are. THe more poeple that read this THE BUYER BEWARE IS WORKING. Keith you and I both know what you shipped me. I send you the copies as soon as I get it.
 
By the way people making silly coments on this thread. This is not a laughing matter. Animal is dead, I am out a lot of time and money, Do you people really think I would spend all this time on this thread, to make up a story. Get real. I am only doing this so this guy (Keith) does not do this to any else. Again I will state I don't want a turtle or money from him. I just don't want Keith to get away with doing this to people. The best way is BUYER BE WARE.
 
John, I took time to post steps on how you could post the vet information you do have on hand. You have not posted it,you have not named your vet and there are no questions from you about how to post. I suspect you did not try, and I am beginning to suspect you are taking us all for a ride.

You have said that you do have some vet info on hand, put up or shut up.
 
had you called or emailed to let me know You wouldve never had this problem but BOTTOM LINE YOU DID NOT DO THAT !!!! so regardless Im not at fault here I was never given a fair chance to replace it at the time or even week this took place so no matter what that Vet bill is to say really does not matter in this circumstance

With no vet paperwork posted, we do not know when or if the turtle was seen by a vet, with no pictures, we do not know that the turtle is in fact deceased.
We don't know how this seller would have reacted to notification.
The reason I never called you when I recieved the sick turtle because I would get one of your YEP answers.

This does not ring true. Who is afraid of a 'yep?'? And if one is, one can send an email notification (which is preferable anyway for future proof).
If you notify immediately and then the seller does not replace or otherwise take care of the issue that is one thing, but an alleged death (picture proof is needed) after two months without timely notifications shouldn't be the seller's responsibility.


Does anyone here want to wake up one morning, come to the BOI and months after a sale see a thread 'Surprise, you're a bad guy!!'?
 
By the way people making silly coments on this thread. This is not a laughing matter. Animal is dead, I am out a lot of time and money, Do you people really think I would spend all this time on this thread, to make up a story. Get real. I am only doing this so this guy (Keith) does not do this to any else. Again I will state I don't want a turtle or money from him. I just don't want Keith to get away with doing this to people. The best way is BUYER BE WARE.

You haven't spent that much time on this thread. The time you have spent here hasn't been very productive. Still wondering how you manage to work 60 hours a week at your age AND have time to care for all those pets.
 
Keith just give me time to get the vets exam report. And I will mail you both copies. Oh ya you are so right thats why the vet gave him a vitiam A shot. Also if you know anything about snapping turtles, they are the most hardiest animal out there, I have animals from the wild with broken shells and dieases that I have tended to, live up to a year. Also would like to inform you the turle has expired. Just like I told you the other nite. I will keep it frozen may need it doewn the road. This thread is showing poeple what type of person you really are. THe more poeple that read this THE BUYER BEWARE IS WORKING. Keith you and I both know what you shipped me. I send you the copies as soon as I get it.

Just like you told me the other night ??????????????? well theres a LIE for everyone to see then because in 1 of your other posts here you claim its still ALIVE so wich is it . get real man you cant have it both ways . and Thanks for your info on care on snapping turtles I think I have a lil more experiance then you considering the snappers I have never have problems and I raise all the hardest turtles to deal with moiprhs and forms of albinos .
 
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