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Carolina Reptile Exchange, selling Pieds

Anyone?

Just out of curiousity, did anyone prove out any of CRE's "hets"? Or were they all duds as thought?

Nathaniel Chapman
 
No one that I've ever heard of.

Incidentally, I just saw some more of CRE's "het pieds" for sale......forget where....maybe KS...but the ad basically states, "Well, the only guarantee I can give you is CRE's, produced by Dave Hanner". Evidently they have figured out that CRE's guarantee is worth less than the paper it's printed on.
 
Has anyone proved the Het Pieds as hets, or as duds?

Enough time has elapsed since the first Hets were sold. Has anyone had any luck proving the Het Pieds out? They are selling Het Pieds again this year, has anyone contacted the actual breeder?

Dave
 
I was browsing the classifieds and saw CRE's ad and was planning on contacting them but I decided to check the BOI first and wow am I glad that I did. Sounds like a lot people have had some serious problems with CRE...

Anyway, has anyone checked the classifieds lately? If you've seen their most recent ad you can see that they are now selling some high-end balls, some hets some visuals. I'm just curious how they went from selling fake hets to selling bumblebees, pieds, and albinos...

Has anyone dealt with CRE lately? I think I speak for the whole herp community when I saw that any new information on these guys would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

John
 
"I'm just curious how they went from selling fake hets to selling bumblebees, pieds, and albinos"
When you sell a bunch of normals as het pieds, you might as well do something herp related with the money. Craig Kade
 
We breed a Pied male to one of our CRE 100% het pieds and hatched out 100% normale looking babys.We now are working with them on a refund for all of the CRE 100% het pieds.We have more eggs on the ground,but we are not expecting anything from them.We hope CRE will do the right thing.
 
Barry white affiliate??

I know Barry white of SC was affiliated with them a couple years ago.. I bought a pair of adult het pieds from him and got tick infested imports...I didnt know about the BOI at that time but i got my money back quick...But i had to get the police involved to get my money back for 1.2 het albino babies....I wish people like this would get a life and quit inbreeding :>poke2<:

Also there are others recently that are scammers and the newbies in this business need to watch it..

After i got this scam pulled on me, I almost gave up but I hooked up with reputable people and now look where I am

Another thing is its worth it to press charges. It may take the wheels of justice a long time but if ya hang in there you will get enjoyment and entertainment watching crooks squirm and have a red faced teary eyed fit in front of a courtroom....hahahahahahh scammers can rot....Be careful and ask for referaces if need be...If its too good to be true it uaualy is....thanx...Jason Matheson http://www.xXxtremeconstrictors.com
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We have all of the paper work we need if this has to go to court.We are hoping it will not.If need be they will be there.
 
If this information is given to Kingsnake will they cancel CRE from any more ads. I would hate to see any more people buy fake hets from CRE.
 
Otter_23 said:
If this information is given to Kingsnake will they cancel CRE from any more ads. I would hate to see any more people buy fake hets from CRE.
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Nope.. Sadly don't think they will due to CRE paying to post ads. Try going to the kingsnake forums and start a post on CRE being bad guys and see how long it stays up.. Better yet see how long you remain a member on kingsnake.

Just do as I do. Anyone who asks about CRE tell them that Bruce is a low life cheating fat ass scum bag who would use his dead grandmother to make a buck if he thought it was possible.That is just his business ethic... Screw others and worry about it later.

And don't dare get me started on his venomoid thing with CRE as that is a whole different gripe of mine.
 
When you sell a bunch of normals as het pieds, you might as well do something herp related with the money. Craig Kade
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Yes, I'm guessing their slice of the het pied market dried up pretty quickly.
Sadly, I'm sure they WILL sell their visual morphs now, which will just reinforce to them that crime really does pay. :hot: I can't believe they're not all in jail or worse. Despicable.
 
ms_terese said:
Sadly, I'm sure they WILL sell their visual morphs now, which will just reinforce to them that crime really does pay. :hot: I can't believe they're not all in jail or worse. Despicable.
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This is exactly what I was thinking... it's really a shame that they are using the money that they essentially stole from honest people in order to fund a "legitimate" ball python business. I sincerely hope that everyone who got burned by CRE gets their money back and that they go after these scammers to the full extent of the law... I guess that's easy for me to say since I have never been ripped off by them but I'd love to see them learn a lesson from all this.

Either way karma is a b :censored: and CRE will get theirs!
 
Here is their most recent attempt...

...this paragraph of crap brought to you by those exemplory gentlemen at CRE

high end balls, LOW LOW PRICES ! WE ARE DEALING !
SHIPPING NATIONWIDE
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WE ARE DEALING !!!
We have 6 clutches
PRODUCED BY DAVE HANNERS
hatch date 5/15/06, 5/18/06, 6/10,and 6/14/06 and more !
ALL HAVE THE SAME FATHERS (K2 AND CRE1)
from a breeding of a visable pied to normal females
100% het pieds
All have eaten 1-4 times (unless noted)
40-57 GRAMS (the twins were smaller)
almost ALL carry the het pied marker !

backed by the breeder and CRE (see our web site)
A DOUBLE GUARANTEE !!!!

WEVE GOT LOADS OF MALES BUT ONLY FEW FEMALES
WE ARE DEALING !!!!!!!
the 5/10 clutch has 1.(eaten 4 times)
the 5/15 clutch has 1.1 available (eaten 4 times)
the 5/18 clutch has 3.1 available (2. are twins, eaten 4 times)
a 6/10 clutch 2.1 (eaten 1 times)
a 6/14 clutch of 2.1 (eaten 1 time)
a 6/18 clutch 2.2 (eaten 1 time)
a 6/21 4.1 and have not eaten yet
another cluch is due sunday

single males $200 + $50 shipping =$250
pairs $850 + $50 shipping = $900
trios $$1350 + $50 shipping= $1400
1.4 $1850 +$50 shipping = $1900

100%Het albinos $300 a pair !!!!!(not many left) $500 FOR 1.2 HATCHED 5/20 AND 6/16 NEXT CLUTCH DUE 6/27
WE ARE DEALING !help me Im running out of space !!!!!
payment plans of non refundable 50% down,
ballance in 45 days available

paypal or western union
us postal or west union m.o. only
ALL FUNDS WILL BE VERIFIED BEFORE SHIPPING

WE ARE DEALING !
live arrival plus 14 days
written signed photo documentation with purchase
A DOUBLE GUARANTEE !
shipping by delta prefered, but overnight is available

ABSOLUTLY NO EXPORT

WE ARE DEALING !!!
email with questions
or call m-sat 3-7 pm sun 2-6 (803)548-8BOA

pic of fathers posted above
expected offspring priced by market value
PASTEL 100% HET PIEDS JULY 3 !!!!!!!!!$2000 MALES $2600 FEMALES
pieds JULY 8
pastels/super JUNE 30
spiders/bumblebees JULY 10
albino and het albinos july 14(5 eggs) and july 24(3 eggs)
het albino het pied JULY 1

ONLY OPEN TO GILA TRADES

Did I mention,"WERE DEALING !"



BTW...has anyone ever actually verified the existance of the mythical David Hanners???????
 
craig kade said:
"I'm just curious how they went from selling fake hets to selling bumblebees, pieds, and albinos"
When you sell a bunch of normals as het pieds, you might as well do something herp related with the money. Craig Kade
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Exactly!

I bought a pair of adult het pieds from him and got tick infested imports.
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But I suppose, some would still be willing to purchase visuals from them even knowing how they obtained them.
 
Maybe they have some visuals to offer now. In the past they posted for sale both visual pieds and hetero pieds. Each time they were contacted asking about the visuals luck had it they had already been sold (but he always had “the last pair” of heteros available…“so hurry up!”). In their new ad they claim the animals in the pictures are the breeders. The pied is the same old picture of years past. If you look closely the pastel in the plate is a juvenile at best. They now offer pastels 100% hetero pieds that means their pied male bred an adult female pastel right? Why not use her picture or a picture of the actual breeding? Maybe that little pastel in the plate bred an adult female pied, why not showing her picture then instead of the same old pied male pictured over and over again? On second thought one can currently buy pastels for $500…and their pastels “hetero pieds” go for $2,000… As usual there are a lot of questions that will remain unanswered?

Regards
 
If you look at their ads, all of the supposed visuals on the ads are still marked as "sold" or "on hold" or something similar....therefore, no one will probably ever see them......could it be because they don't exist?
 
Cat_72 said:
If you look at their ads, all of the supposed visuals on the ads are still marked as "sold" or "on hold" or something similar....therefore, no one will probably ever see them......could it be because they don't exist?
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BINGO!!! We have a winner!!!!!
 
Hello
My name is Jude Platteborze. I have purchased 1.3 het albino and 1.2 het pied from Carolina Reptile Exchange. Would somebody kindly explain what "HCE" is, if it's not the same thing. I also want to know if this truly is a scam? Nobody has seemed to show any proof that these 100 percent hets are NOT in fact hets at all. Nobody seems able to say "No, none of my hets produced homozygous animals" I have in front of me the paperwork showing the photos of the father, It also says "genetics guaranteed for life" This definitely doesn't sound like a scammer. Feel free to email me at [email protected]
Thank you
 
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