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Hello everyone,

Recently someone posted a comment on one of my HTC pictures, it said

for it to be a CT there should be no spotting at the base, since there is spotting there, i would call it a HT
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Here is the picture I posted:

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Do Leos need to have no spotting on the tail base in order for it to be a CT, or is this just someones opinion?

Thanks!
 
the only guide i hear for CT is ..........

more than 15-20 percent is CT !alot of tangerines are carrottails too ,, that is after all what someone selectively bred from to get " carrottails "
 
I wasn't questioning whether a Hypo can be a CT, I was questioning whether a gecko can be called a CT if it has black bands at the base of the tail.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
I would say yes, it can have spots or bands and still be called a ct. Most of the ct Ive seen have some spots on the tail and some still have bands as well. I agree that at least around 15% to be ct but somtimes you cant tell with the younger leos.
 
my point

it is a carrottail ( ithink) regardless of hypo characteristic (lack of spotting / banding) carrottails and hypo ct or tang came from selectively bred hi-yellos and so on and forth ! later called tangerine (when they showed more orange) and carrottail when they showed more orange on the tail ! its not as if a carrottail, a tangerine or hypo of either ,arent closely related ! this is why the CT and TANG combine so well when bred together .......i wouldnt say that one cannot be the other also
 
One more time......

I wasn't asking if a Hypo can or can't be a CT, I know they can. I was asking if a Gecko would be considered a CT if it has black bands at the base of the tail (emphasis on the "Base of the Tail")

Would you consider the gecko in the picture a CT?

Thanks again
 
We were told....

that carrottail couldn't have any spotting, by several. Here is a picture of one of my juv. and we were told that she isn't a carrottail....who knows. I think it depends on the person. Hopefully there will be more responses to this and we'll find out for sure.
 

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There's a visible difference between 'true' carrot-tails and leos with a lot of orange/red coloring in their tails. Technically you can call your leo anything you want, but the term 'carrot-tail' was coined for those from one particular breeder. Any leo that can't trace it's ancestors to that line shouldn't be called a carrot-tail as far as I'm concerned.


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Imitation is a form of flattery, but you still only have an imitation. There are natural blondes and bottle blondes.... only one is the real thing. Same with carrot-tails and carrot-tail wanna-be's.
 
my opinion probably doesn't matter since I'm not
a breeder, but I don't consider it to be a CT if it
has black dots on the base of the tail.

I think it be great if there were more clarification/specifics
on morphs.. I remember first looking for Leo's and
became really confused. I see people selling SHTCT
on kingsnake all the time, but half of them (IMO) are
just high yellows or SHT.
 
I agree that its very confusing and i find it quite subjective. Personally i only have a problem with it when one is selling a leo and label a barely orange tailed leo carrot tail and then asking for big $$$. Buyer beware
 
CT or no?

Here's an interesting one...Nearly her whole tail is orange, but also contains black markings. She's a weirdo! :)

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-Jackie
 
see !!!

carrot-tail all the way ! no matter if spotted , it happens sometimes , especially since tangerines and carrots have been crossed for years ...... and are essentially the same morph in the first place , only selectively bred in a different manner !!! would you say that a red-stripe is a carrot-tail? or a tangerine ? i would say it is both ! and so are alot of the other tangerines , and the carrot-tails that are out there !
 
An idea...

I think it would be interesting to try to selectively breed animals that look like that female, with the orange tails and black markings. Anyone have any geckos that look like her??? It would be a fun project.

-Jackie
 
Rhonda,Tony, Jackie

Those are all carrot tails in my opinion. Nice looking ones by the way. I especially am fascinated by the one with the melanin perfectly bordering the orange! Very Nice! Definetely something for a project. Wizardlizards I can clearly see the Ray Hine influence in that gecko of yours. Nice as well by the way. I remember Albey selling 10% carrot tails. Matter of fact I think he still does!
 
Chad,

Thanks for the compliment! I too thought that was interesting how the melanin bands perfectly border the orange color near the end of her tail. I wonder if I can find a male with this trait...

-Jackie
 
Hmmmm... A real Tiger Gecko, Imagine having the black Stripes with the orange going all the way down the back and tail. Ohhh the possibilities! :)
 
I often see leos with little to no CT and are being called CT. The thing about the CT is it might not be much at all in a baby, but it can end up taking over 50+% of the tail. I have a SHTCTB that had a little speck of CT as a hatchling only to develope 50% at 4 months of age so it does vary. I can understand people calling a hatchling with some orange at the base a CT, but an adult with a speck of orange is not a CT in my opinion. I would still call all the leos on here a CT as they have more than just a spot they have a good area especially that one that STORM55 posted nice.
 
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