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Carrot Tails

In order for a leo to be considered a carrot tail, it needs to have orange from the base of the tail down to 20% of the tail..... If it has spot or bands or whatever at the base before 20% iti is not a carrot tail....... The leo in the first pic would not be considered a carrot tail......
WizardLizard and storm,
Those are not true carrot tails because of the spotting at the base but with the ammount of orange in those tails they are very impressive looking leos and with some selective breeding both of those leos will make some great looking offspring.....
Here is a pic of a true SHTCTB
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HUMM!

In order for a leo to be considered a carrot tail, it needs to have orange from the base of the tail down to 20% of the tail
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Dang I guess Albey doesn't know carrot tails!
 
Well if you looked on his site, you will see that he is not calling the false carrot tails SHCTs...... He is callng them carrot tail crosses..... That is a proper representation because they are not true carrot tails but one of the parents was....
 
The one you posted is a CROSS!

Since the one you posted is a Tangerine Carrot tail cross then it must not be a Carrot tail based on your own statements!
 
my option that Carrottails would be solid organe not bloched with organe and the effect bring it to solid by the Hypo genetic from Ray lines. Ray Hines usa Wild Caught that is hypo and he breed into carrottails with blothcled tails and losse almost all blacks then every one put it into tangerines and work for 100% carrottails.
 
Many carrot tails have black remaining in their tails

I have a few pictures I would like to post but I am off to ship some geckos. As far as I am concerned until there is a USLGBA or a UKLGBA( United States Leopard Gecko Breeders Association) everybody can state this is what constitutes a carrot tail and this doesn't . IT all boils down to one thing. ITS A SUBJECTIONAL!
 
Why are you taking my statements out of context and putting words in my mouth.... You know that the animals I was talking about where the ones with hardly any carrot tails or broken up carrot tails...... Stop being a wiseass..... There is no need for a LGBA..... Basic rules on morphs and color varieties are pretty much set..... May not be written in stone but they are there..... It is not subjectional....... Just like there is a basic set price on certain morphs and color varieties.... And the animal I post is a true SHTCTB just as I stated im my post..... Dont be so quick to reach for straws.....

By the way, did you ever sell that $3000 super hypo tang????
LOL
 
this is going a little far everyone needs to settle down a notch it doesnt matter what is or isnt a true carrot tail as long as you are happy with what you have great as for those breeders that post adds stating a little blotch is a CT well all i can say is dont buy it no one is going to buy an animal they dont like so it doesnt matter either way anyone can call thier geckos carrot tails but weither people will agree and buy them is all that really matters ya know so call it what you want the buyer will make up his/her own mind and thats the fact of the matter so i personally believe that the black in the tail doesnt make it any less atractive but at the same time the value will be less than one with out the black and if i come across 2 with the same price tag i will buy the one with out so i am sure the net buyer will agree you arnt going to spend the money on something you dont like that is the bottom line

Billy
 
Hmmmm... A real Tiger Gecko, Imagine having the black Stripes with the orange going all the way down the back and tail.
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Shhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Someone might be working on that and you don't want to give it away! ;-)


Regards,

Terry

Might have some tigers and might not :)
 
hehehe and i am not even a part of it LOL

this is going a little far everyone needs to settle down a notch
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dude im working on an orange and black... oops slipped ... i can even keep a good secret.
this is off topic but dontcha just hate them breeders that thi8nks every thing is a secret project... and they dont want the next joe blow to know and beat em.


and Terry, of course i know tigers really do exist , sheeeeesh
 
Ah who's being the wiseass?

Dang when did this become a name calling event? Holy cow! I guess people can't even disagree on something anymore.

And basic rules for leopard gecko morphs a far from set!!! Everyones got an opinion and we all know what opinions are like!
In case you don't know the saying, its the eqivalent of a vent only on a human! Apparently some are wise and some are not! Any whoooo! Morphs are NOT set. Heck we don't even know if stripes and jungles are simple recessives or not! Still don't know if we can make a Bell blazing leo or Bell PA, RainBell, and a few others! Anyway didn't mean to ruffle your feathers there Greg. I don't know you nor would ever result to name calling. Let just say we agree to disagree.

oh and for your ?
By the way, did you ever sell that $3000 super hypo tang????LOL
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I never intended to! She was staying right here! That ad served its purpose beautifully! I guess you just didn't get it. Oh and by the way Nice looking Tang Carrot is that one of the ones thats available? Please email me and let me know what you want for it.
 
Please

Can we stop the ugliness here? I mean what exactly is the point?

Here is what it boils down to:
Carrot Tail refers to a specific bloodline developed by Ray Hine. I am of the opinion that any leo from that line that is a hypo and has some carrotting on the tail (whether it is 5% or 100%) can be called a "carrot tail" or some version of, ie. "super hypo carrot tail", "hypo carrot tail", "hypo carrot tail cross", etc.

Any geckos that have no Ray HIne blood in them that have orange on the tails should not really be referred to as "carrot tail". Jeanne, your gecko does not appear to have any Ray Hine influence in it, I say it is not a true "carrot tail".

As far as carrot tails having to have at least 20% of carrotting on their tails, who came up with that rule? Some of the very first hypo carrot tails I had, which were pure Ray Hine line hypo carrot tails had less than 20% carrotting so I am not sure who came up with that requirement.

Here are some pics of my very first hypo carrot tails
 

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another one

I almost had a heart attack when I got this one, it was so awesome.
 

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one more, the male. Those three animals were the founding breeders in my hypo carrot tail project. It's amazing how different they look now, just a few years later isn't it.
 

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Man oh man Kelli, those are some SMOKERS!
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Yeah, back then they were just unbelievable, I was so happy to have those animals. That first season I bred that male to at least 40 female tangerines and hypo tangerines, and to the other 2 female hypo carrot tails.
 
So those the ones that started your "Cheeto" line? It's amazing to think of how far these guys have come! Hard to imagine at some points.
 
Thank you Kelli for answering my question. How can you tell if a Leo has Ray Hines blood in it?

Thanks!
 
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