Dan Scolaro bad guy.

[Craigh]

I have read the report and everyone else here read the report. Are you just that stupid or do you think where just stupid. Plus the pics are more then enough evidence you shipped very ill snakes.... When this thread started I did feel sorry for you dealing with a bad customer but after see your posts after real evidence proves your so wrong. Makes me think about what kinda of person you really are...
Good luck trying to fix your reputation after this...

 

[Craigh]

Sry forgot to post my name.

Craig Andrew Hill

 

[The BoidSmith]

Has anyone provided any smart information on how that bloat happen in the snake? I don't read anywhere where that a snake will bloat out like a blimp from IBD, so look at the picture of that snake and tell my it looks like IBD virus. It appears like something cut of its intestine which caused a blockage, and the snake filled with gas. Perhaps the other snake, perhaps some freak blockage? I don't know but IBD virus does not report a bloated snake.

Dan,

The bloating has nothing to do with IBD, it's just a result of fermentation by bacteria inside the gut when the snake dies. There's no need for blockage for gas production.

And for giggles, let say the snake did have a virus? It was destroyed and none of the others showed with any symptoms/signs etc. So what gives on all this worry? The buyer is not concerned as he knows the snake was strangled, I know it was strangled, and the smart readers know it was strangled. If you want to think otherwise, that is fine with me as nothing will change my mind on what I saw when I bagged the snake.

It's simple, snakes can carry the virus for quite some time without showing symptoms. I have nearly 40+ years keeping snakes, never in my life have I witnessed a boa "strangle" another snake. Even mussuranas and milksnakes that will strangle other snakes will not exert enough pressure to damage bones.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Dan S. writes:
So what gives on all this worry? The buyer is not concerned as he knows the snake was strangled, I know it was strangled, and the smart readers know it was strangled.

I'm a "smart reader" Dan.

When I die, if they don't ice me down pretty quickly, I will start to bloat. It won't be because my belt was too tight.

 

[Dan Scolaro]

Dan:

When did you email me about the purchase of any boa recently? I don't see any email from you? And what if you did? I typically fall in love with what I don't sell and keep it, so the more snakes for me the merrier I always say.

Are you still a tad upset that I would not separate that female CA boa from the male and sell it to you at that low ball offer? Come on man, don't hold a grudge. Smell the fresh air and release the frustration my boy. Don't make up lies about emailing me recently for any boa deal. The truth shall set you free.

And I care a lot about myself. I do 1 push-up out of bed a day and eat a ton of pasta and am working hard to gain a third chin.

The 3 boas I have for sale presently are isolated in a separate snake room and are feeding great and are fresh wild caught specimens which were cherry picked for bright pink/red/lavendar colors and all have a great disposition. Sorry, but I cannot provide you any discount on them either as they are prime shape and colorful as heck. The last 3 that sold are doing great. Would you like to speak with the buyer? She would be glad to tell you how happy she is with them as she has contacted many times since to tell me how pleased she is with them. I've sold a few dozen since that other transaction. All reports on them are fantastic.

Dan

 

[Lucille]

Dan,

The bloating has nothing to do with IBD, it's just a result of fermentation by bacteria inside the gut when the snake dies. There's no need for blockage for gas production.



It's simple, snakes can carry the virus for quite some time without showing symptoms. I have nearly 40+ years keeping snakes, never in my life have I witnessed a boa "strangle" another snake. Even mussuranas and milksnakes that will strangle other snakes will not exert enough pressure to damage bones.

I gave that contact advice for Texas A&M but I guess until I saw your name I didn't realize you were following the current thread and you could probably answer some of the various IBD questions? I sure did not mean to slight you by not mentioning you as a reference resource, I think a lot of you.

 

[Dan Scolaro]

Craig: Shipped ill snakes? Not me. That snake was healthy when shipped and have shipped nearly 2000 orders without any legitimate complants. This issue is not legit because the snake was healthy when shipped and I made good on it anyway.

Dan



I have read the report and everyone else here read the report. Are you just that stupid or do you think where just stupid. Plus the pics are more then enough evidence you shipped very ill snakes.... When this thread started I did feel sorry for you dealing with a bad customer but after see your posts after real evidence proves your so wrong. Makes me think about what kinda of person you really are...
Good luck trying to fix your reputation after this...

 

[Dan Scolaro]

Dan:

Fermentation when dead? The snake arrived alive and bloated and lived for quite some time afterward with the bloat. I mean lets be real folks, the snake lived for several days if not weeks with the bloat, so how could it be bloated from being dead if it was alive? I mean if you are going to make a statment here, lets not go off the page with the screwy contentions.

The buyer and I spoke about putting a probe in the vent to release the gas but don't think he did.

Dan



The bloating has nothing to do with IBD, it's just a result of fermentation by bacteria inside the gut when the snake dies. There's no need for blockage for gas production.

 

[The BoidSmith]

Dan, yea, I can go down 50 dollars.

Dan


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Can you do a better price on this male?

Thanks,

Dan G.

Dan,

You are thinking of another Dan. Above is your e-mail in response to my inquiry on the male ETB inquiry. You were not down balled, you offered the animal at a $50 discount.

 

[The BoidSmith]

Dan:

Fermentation when dead? The snake arrived alive and bloated and lived for quite some time afterward with the bloat. I mean lets be real folks, the snake lived for several days if not weeks with the bloat, so how could it be bloated from being dead if it was alive? I mean if you are going to make a statment here, lets not go off the page with the screwy contentions.

The buyer and I spoke about putting a probe in the vent to release the gas but don't think he did.

That was my mistake, I thought you were talking about a dead boa.

 

[Dan Scolaro]

You said you made an inquiry about my boas, not emerald tree boa so it did not ring a bell as I get about 40 emails a day about the ads.

But yea, I recall several months ago your asking me to break a pretty female cb boa from the pair at a low price and I declined and you did not seem happy etc. It was months ago but recall it was you.

Dan

 

[MikeCurtin]

Cap:

Sure I care, and that is why I extended the guarantee for the buyers. And that snake was a fat healthy specimen when bagged so all that discussion sending a sick snake is trash talk/garbage as far as I am concerned because nothing anyone says is going to change what I saw when I bagged the snake. It was trying to bite my hands off and had a big old poop in the cage and was quite healthy with no signs or symptoms or else I would have never shipped it in the first place to pay the mand 150 bucks the next day - more than what he paid for the snake. When I first saw the photo of it when it arrived, I thought airpressure bloated it but then after consultation, it must have been wrapped by the other snake causing a blockage of the intestine. I don't know for sure, but the man got his money for the strangulation and all is well with the other snakes, so no need to worry. Had the other snake broke out into a virus etc, he would have been compensated etc.

Inclusion bodies are present in any animal suffing from a bone ailment, so what else would you expect to find when a snake was strangled?

Any doubt, then refer to my references/sales deals on this forum which is fine testaments to my integrity. Or give me your number and another individual who examined the snakes the week I shipped them will testify to their health. If you really think I bagged a bloated sick snake to send the guy 150 dollars the next day, then I don't know what else to say but think again.

A quote from a recent customer:

" I just finished a business deal with Dan, and I found him to be well worth the effort to do business with him. I was pleased, I hand picked what I wanted, and because I preferred to pay by paypal, Dan gave me the herps, and I paid him 24 hours after receipt as agreed upon. You cannot get better than that for a healthy relationship. "

I would like to talk about this further. Give me a call tomorrow if you can (quiet night w/ my wife tonight). I'll have my cell on me all day: 732-773-8081
Mike

 

[Dan Scolaro]

Lucille:

I just got off the phone with a vet who said those inclusion cells would show in an exam on a snake that suffered for several days afterward as a result of trauma from strangulation or body injury. Is this true according to your experts?

Dan

 

[Dan Scolaro]

Mike:

It's nice to see that an impartial reader was willing to come forward and I will telephone tomorrow in the afternoon.

It appears that despite my good reputation and long record of happy customers with integrity in-check, some folks are somewhat bent into thinking I sold a 125 dollar snake, knew it was sick, and then sent the buyer 150 dollars the next day for the fun of it, thinking I could hide a giant bloat in the snake? How whacked that may sound, that's what some of these folks are trying to imply and con others to think.

However there was another interested buyer several miles south of me by the name Alvin. That fellow inspected the 2.2 group of Costa Rican's I had just days before I shipped 1.1 of them to the buyer in question here.

No pressure, but it might be a good idea that (with your permission) he call you to substantiate that the snakes were all quite healthy and that his are thriving.

I offered this opportunity to the buyer but he declined to accept the call for obvious reasons that the verification of health would of course blow his contention that I knowingly shipped him an unhealthy snake with a virus.

I have not mentioned this before, but what was quite odd, was that I refunded to the buyer more than what he paid for the specimen in question, but he was hell bent on proving the snake had a disease.

I did a reference check on the buyer and discovered from other's that he is one of these conspiracy theory freaks who thinks everyone including the government is after him. That is hearsay, but that is what I was told from a few reliable sources who refuse to deal with him. And they also warned me not to deal and or sell to him, but I had a great friendship worked with the fellow and we corresponded weekly via email. How this guy who I thought was my friend would think I would send him a sick snake is beyond comprehension.

Also, I am quite aware that the buyer did not inform the examiner that the snake was or could have been strangled as the buyer got very upset when I asked him if he did. His upset reaction meant he knows the examiner might have mentioned trauma in the findings of the exam thus throwing his conspiracy theory out the window.


Dan

 

[The BoidSmith]

You said you made an inquiry about my boas, not emerald tree boa so it did not ring a bell as I get about 40 emails a day about the ads.

But yea, I recall several months ago your asking me to break a pretty female cb boa from the pair at a low price and I declined and you did not seem happy etc. It was months ago but recall it was you.

Dan

No, it was yesterday:

15 04/15/2008 [email protected] Re: Message about: Emerald Tree Boa: CB 07 Dark Phase Male: $400

Anyways, that's not the point. You need to take care of this problem and discontinue your selling of animals potentially infected with IBD.

 

[critical bill]

I did a reference check on the buyer and discovered from other's that he is one of these conspiracy theory freaks who thinks everyone including the government is after him. That is hearsay, but that is what I was told from a few reliable sources who refuse to deal with him. And they also warned me not to deal and or sell to him, but I had a great friendship worked with the fellow and we corresponded weekly via email. How this guy who I thought was my friend would think I would send him a sick snake is beyond comprehension.

Thats all hearsay nonsense. Name your sources or just STFU already. You have a story and an excuse for everything.

 

[Craigh]

Dan you have yet to prove any thing with solid proof all your doing is talking. Just cause you keep typing the same BS over and over. Doesn't mean you right. Plus I highly don't think they would get that sick over night in the mail. The other people here have posted emails. Reports and Pictures Start showing some solid proof or your just digging your self in a deeper hope. So far I can't even count how many times you have been caught in a lie.

For god sake man stop ........ I already let as many people I know to not deal with you.... Anyone in there right mind if confronted with the chance they have a snake with IBD... Would discontinue sell anything till they had scientific proof there collection was not infected. I am the guardian of a 13 teen year old and I never seen here act like this.. Grow up you don't need to get the last word. I for one will let everyone know in the hobby not to order of you cause the chance of them infecting there collection with IBD. I so hope everyone does the same.....

Craig Hill

 

[Dan Scolaro]

What animals potentially infected with IBD? It was not a virus, so get off that poor boat. It was strangulation. I brought in 3 new boas last week and those others were shipped months ago, so no health issues here nor any reported with with ones shipped. Why throw rocks? Mad about the ca boa still?

Dan

 

[Dan Scolaro]

Craig:

Yea, I am right and never lie.

But the question is if this other customer that inspected the snake provided provides verification that it was quite healthy, will you dig a hole and jump in it with these other idiots.

Dan

 

[Dan Scolaro]

More bad news for Chuck.

Someone just emailed me that the reputable breeder of these snakes screens his collection for IBD and there has never been any cases of IBD. He further added the vet certificate is important to check.

Gosh, Chuck, the house is falling and you have no where to run.

Dan